illdeviant

alright. this is my take on a mans size in respect to how 'good' he is. for ladies who have compared the two by experience, im thinkin that once the have a taste of a larger man, they become loose and stretched, hence when they go back to a smaller man, comparitively , the larger would be better since as far as i can see, the only advantage would be the larger surface area (longer 'ins' and 'outs') and the fact that when reverting to a smaller man after a larger man, the looser woman would not be as sensitive. yet, aside from taht, i dont see any other advantages since the only spot associated w/intense pleasure is the gSpot, and that's just a matter of hip position rather than girth/length. ::shrug:: thats my take. input?

SiN

erg...

from what i understand, and def. from my own experience..

the vagina is rather elastic..so the idea of 'loose and stretched' i'm guessing is more myth than truth?

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Peetster

Stretchy stretchy, else what would happen after childbirth?

illdeviant

haha. shit. elasticity. i guess u dont see the obvious at first. well then in place of the elasticity, maybe the size of the woman at hand, assuming that larger her frame larger her thang is.

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Jim Kata
Stop worrying about your penis size. If it is someone really worth being with... he/she won't care. (At least that is what they always tell me, but that could be because they dont want to hurt my feelings since I'm hung like a 7 year old ..........

lol. u got the wrong idea. im not havin sex problems or anything. in fact, we have great sex. i was just curious and came up w/my own theory. being she says im great. yet i'm only 5''. possible factor is that shes 5'4". who knows. i'm not complaining. just curious

Jim Kata

Does that mean they need to start having sex with watermelons after having a baby? Since they had such a large thing in there?

And I wasn't directing that comment specifically for you, but for anyone who might read this thread that is all worried about their manhood's size.

By the way....I think they have to say that we are "great". Just Kidding.

Small Penii of the world UNITE!!!

illdeviant

ah. but then again. refering to the elasticity. u only have a kid how often in ur life? couple times. id say no more than like 4. and its only a one time deal. with at least 9mths between, right?

whereas for sex, how many times? hehe. exactly. especially since a big dick and a kid arnt to similar in size. so i'm sure that there is change in elasticity since a dick is smaller change (compared to childbirth) over a longer period of time with higher frequency. look at a rubberband, if u keep stretching it, even that loosens over time, no? so im thinking that for childbirth no significant stretching occurs do to its frequency as well as the long time between (assuming ur havin another kid) unless ur just one of those odd ladies shittin kids left and right, which i doubt .

illdeviant

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btw Jim. 'great' refers to the minimum 2 orgasms i give her per .. uh. . 'round' (not the lil dinky ones). so im pretty sure it aint jus cause she feels she's obligated

Donkeypuncher

"stretched out" is a complete myth.

That said, there are some women who prefer big dicks, but it's a personal preference, nothing more.

As for a woman's frame having an effect, I haven't noticed much of a correlation there either. I've been with 5'4" women and 6'3" women and the latter was just as tight as the former... and had two children and 15 years on the 5'4" woman, so...

Stop worrying about your dick so much.

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Halx

This has just beaten the previous "most ignorant post" and is now running away with the cake....

Wow look at it go.

Women don't get stretched permanently. Remember, they can have KIDS.. doesn't mean they remain as gaping holes for the rest of their lives... nor for the rest of the week. Oi!

I really wish people would pick up books and such instead of listening to their idiot friends and forming opinions based off of hype.

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mtsgsd

Me too Halx, BUT. Let's not alienate people for asking questions either right? At least he asked instead of just figuring he knew it all

smithja0423

Wow - I'll just refrain from saying anything. I think i've already called someone out this week and that's my quota.

illdeviant

lol. try to understand what i was saying. its pointless to tag shit ignorant and to expect for it to stop. only thing it accomplishes is to piss other people off. this would be the last thing i'd expect from you, being that i figured that you'd be compassionate, thoughtful individual who created this great forum for others of the same demeanor. i mean what happened to tfp's charter? respect? evolution? sure, i might not be nearly as godly in your intelligence and knowledge, but give me a break. last time i checked, your response has no respect and does anything but help in my evolution as a human being.

referring to childbirth, i NEVER said it would cause permanent stretching. what i was saying was that if anything, sex would be the cause of the stretching (realize how its just a theory. amendments can be made and i dont live my damn life by it. that's why its in a forum open to other's suggestions) due to its frequency( im thinking about daily or so) and slight stretch as opposed to childbirth. so over time, you'd expect change in size. it's just basic conditioning, no? to me that's logical. the whole reason for posting is to share my idea and be open to suggestions/comments all for the reason to learn from others with more experience and knowledge. so knocking someones 'ignorance' doesnt help anything.

if my previous posts were misleading, then i apologize. i tend to go off on tangents as well as having poor organizational skills. but nevertheless, wat you wrote was not necessary.


haha. i love my baby too much to worry.

Donkeypuncher

No. It's not. One can learn over time to relax muscles to allow entry to something that might have caused pain earlier, but the muscles do not "stay" that way. Your rubber band analogy is off-base - you're comparing a manufactured product to a living organism... it's apples and oranges. Think of it this way - when you are doing something physical, your muscles get stretched, joints get stretched... do you end up a floppy bag of bones? No. If anything, the muscles get tighter from use and pre-activity stretching becomes a necessity to relax things a little bit. (haha or foreplay, in this case)

Unfortunately, Halx is right on this one - your "theory" is grossly ignorant. It's the kinda of stuff that gets passed around in jr. high locker rooms by kids who have no idea what they're talking about then most of those people grow up and assume that information is real and it affects their dealings with others. People who won't be amused, most likely.

And yeah, it really sounde like you're worrying about your dick too much. You wouldn't have come up with this "theory" if you weren't concerned about the topic. Let it go... it won't get you anywhere.

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illdeviant

referring to donkey puncher. thx for the somewhat more civil response, although i dont see how pointing out that the theory is ignorant helps shit. and the fact that u pretty much compare me to a jr. high kid doesnt really help either. just cause i'm ignorant in some aspects, doesn't make me a fuckin retard. talk to me like you'd do to any other peer. maybe i'm taking your comments too seriously, but hey, halx's comment didn't put me in the greatest of moods.

but despite that, i realize that it's composed of muscles and such, yet it's still a piece of living tissue. as time passes, doesn't wear and tear apply, too? like brittle bones as you age or how elderly grow to slouch their backs. like anything out there, use leads to detereoration. I just dont see how over time, when inserting a dick, which is larger than the vagina, wouldn't stretch it in the least. do yousee what i mean?

realize that i have thought about it. it's not random shit i jus pick up and decide to blindly believe in jus cause some joe claims it. i'm jus tryin to make sense and reason of it, so i'd appreciate if you'd filter out certain comments being that they dont help the situation for shit.

and don't you think it's a tad ignorant how you and other people think that everybody else's thinking revolves around their dick? specially when they made a point to say in previous posts that that's not the case? think what you want.

also. realize how im not trying to fight w/anybody, incite anything, or be intentionally difficult. i just dont appreciate how some replies are of mocking nature. that and logically, not because i just dont want to listen or anything, but logically, to me, what you guys are saying makes no sense. just bear with me.

thanks for those who can reply in a civil manner and actually give half a shit.

Donkeypuncher

For starters, if people didn't care, they probably wouldn't respond at all. Besides, it's not all about you, hombre. There are a ton of lurkers around here and I'd be willing to bet that a lot of them have what a lot of us consider to be similar misguided notions and a lot of these responses are not just for the person asking the question, but for anyone else who may be tuning in.

No. I don't think everyone's does. Repeatedly, what you say makes it sound like you do. Having an outside perspective on it, I thought you might want to know how it's being perceived. Aren't you the same guy that was worried about his girl's new toy "overshadowing" his equipment?

All I'm saying is you seem to be pretty hung up on the subject and I'm not trying to give you a bad time about it... I'm just saying get over it. It won't get you anywhere being so focused on your size... or others' size... or a dildo's size... or some ex-boyfriend's size... when there's nothing you can really do about it. Focus that energy on doing what you do and getting better as the years roll by. As with everything else in life, don't ever stop learning.

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donkeypuncher

ok . referring to the whole ignorance thing. if you don't mean it in a condescending way or watever, then i apologize for coming out as critical. but halx's previous reply if anything, comes off exactly as that. condescending. and it jus pissed me off that someone who made the rules himself was abusing it. and i kind of carried my anger to the next post. like i said. im sorry,man and appreciate your input.

as for the second part, i see where your coming from, im sure there's some deep seeded penis envy (least for the smaller guys) for everyone. and maybe the question was spawned due to that concern. and i see how you probably view me as a maniacal selfaware penis madman out to protect his gonads, but as this thread is progressing, i see it less and less likely that im continuing the discussion due to that. you see, im really logic based, and right now, the fuel of my curiousity or fear or watever you want to call it is now beyond my dick. im plain curious. i mean wouldnt you be as well? if something you think of perfectly logical, yet everyone else disbelieves? i mean you guys are disputing the fact that any object, organic or not, will degenerate due to wear and tear. and i can assure you its beyond my dick. but watever. i can see we're both adamant in our views. so be it.

thx again for everyone's response.

eribrav

Ok lets try this another way.

The vagina is not in its dilated open state MOST of the time. It is however during intercourse and childbirth. During those times it can relax to accomodate the (cock, baby's head, etc.) as required.

Now go look in the mirror in a dim room. Go get a flashlight and shine it at one of your eyes. Did you just see it dilate? Now turn the lights down low again and look at your pupil again in a few minutes. Does it look stretched? Has it been permanently altered in some way? No, it hasn't. It just returned right back to the constricted state, without any harm done. Now slow down and think.....think hard......think about the vagina analogy.....get it?

illdeviant

ok. but you have to take into account that vagina and dick isn't meant for the act of sex, but rather, just procreation. so since the vagina is used more often than intended, you'd also have to apply that to your eye analogy. therefore you would have to Turn the light on and off and on and off more than your eye is accustomed to or what you would do normally. it would eventualy wear out the retina, the part of the eye determining how how much light there is, then due to the usage, the optical impulses to the nerves controlling dialation and contractions would deteriorate. this then leads to blurry vision due to the pupil not adjusting properly in respect to the amount of light.

so therefore, this goes perfectly with how wear and tear leads to deterioration. in this case, your pupils will not beable to adjust to the proper amount of light, and the other, thevagina would stretch.

also, with age, the lenses in your eyes deteriorate and distort to the point where the individual becomes hypermetropic at around the age of 40. this is another example of bodily wear and tear.

anyway. i thought i said 'forget it' in my last post? watever.

Halx

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Listen to yourself, man!!!

Pick up a book. Right now. Turn off your computer, unhook your phone and pick up a book. Read and educate yourself. Please!

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illdeviant

christ. what now.

its true. what other animals have sex just for the pleasure aspect rather than procreation? think about it.

last time i checked, it's only dolphins or someshit.

Halx

*NO*

Please, cease! Pick up a book on human sexuality with a focus on anatomy. Go to the library, they are sure to have plenty.

How old are you?

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bermuDa

there are types of monkeys that use sex to strengthen social bonds, like a more intimate form of grooming.

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The Bonobos, right?

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Mongolguy

Here is one of the best articles I've found for explaining female anatomy. http://womancare.crosswinds.net/anat...e__vagina.html
It's all in the PC muscles, baby!
I suppose the vagina could wear out eventually, but by that time they're to old to screw anyway.

illdeviant

halx. im 18. only possible indepth courses would prob be ap bio, but if i recall correctly, it didn't really mention the vagina, let alone the specificities. im sure this and my lack of sexual experience places a part in my ignorance. i've only had 2 sexual partners. and the reason why im not picking up a book and looking is because me, being a lazy 18 year old, i would rather come to this forum of intelligent, understanding and experienced individuals for short and to the point help instead of scouring through textbooks.

mongol. thx for the site. from what i understand. its all about the erectile tissue.

thx all for your patience peeps.

Halx

I think that's what's irking me so much. You don't want to do any work for yourself. I'm willing to help anyone who is willing to put effort into their education. Do you realize how selfish your statement is?

Once again, attempt to educate yourself before you come here. I see too many people expecting the TFP to solve all their issues. That's not what we're here for.

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bermuDa

Yeah I think that's the group... although come to think of it they aren't monkeys, doi

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illdeviant

im not asking for you to solve my issues. it's just a matter of knowledge. doesnt what you say totally contradict the tfp charter? before replying, read on.

nobody's forcing anybody to reply. im not taking all your input and information for granted. im not leeching. in fact i try my best to give back to the community. why do you think im stil here tryin to right myself in your eyes?
i care about this community
i always thoughrouly thank all those for their help and make sure what they've done is appreciated.

so therefore, i don't see the problem. the point of a forum is to share information. i've added my advice in threads for situations which are purely subjective, which i believe wont be much help, but the fact that the person knows that someone cares, is as much help in itself. and as for threads more factual in nature i do what i can, but hey, being an ignorant 18 yearold with limited experiences (from what i learned), i do try my best.

see. the thing is, i just think your're viewing me as an prepubescent, immature, ignorant, loudmouthed, leeching, lurker. ok think what you want.

but if the way you think of me would affect how your judging me, then i suggest you put your labels aside. cause your hammering on me, when i should be the least of your problems.

the way you put it, i don't see how what im doing is different from someone on the forum asking why the orange rind creates a spark when breaking it next to a lighter or 'what makes the sac itch" or "what are some good excercises for pecs and abs?". surely you could go look that up, right? and from what i see, i don't recall seeing them contributing to other threads. talk about selfishness and lack of motivation: "how to get in shape?" if anything, i'm caring more and contributing more to the community.

You don't want to do any work for yourself. I'm willing to help anyone who is willing to put effort into their education.

basically you're saying i dont want to get my hands dirty. true. but how's that any different from asking for any type of advice? why doesn't he go ahead and break up with their overcontrolling girlfriend or buy the bowflex instead of nordictrack? they don't want to get their hands dirty and therefore, seek advice from those who know best and have experience. is my situation any different? as for effort, the fact that i'm being open enough and asking on a forum (not to mention being open minded while being chided and mocked) isn't effort? compared to my alternative of going into a lockerroom and spreading the ignorance, i think i made an effort. i mean seriously, if there was no effort involved i wouldn't have invested time to reply and try to explain myself even in light of the fact that halx himself is openly detracting from the goals of the tfp charter. i mean shit, u basically called me a moron. and the fact that i'm still here calmy posting with all the civilty i can dredge? "growth, acceptance, adaption" remember that?

i could understand where you're going if i just plain out stated my 'theory' as a law by using my years and years of sexual prowess and iq which are off the charts to support it, but i didn't. i made a post with thought behind it, asking what i thought at the time, a compassionate, understanding community.

i mean your tilted knowledge is labelled: "why go to school when you've got us?" what gives?


"Evolution. Growth, acceptance, adaptation. No community is perfect, but we can sure as hell try to be. Ignorance is the bane of all things progressive and it will not be tolerated. Questions must be asked. Lessons must be learned. Be your own person here and seek the paths you are interested in to better yourself as an intellectual person. Thousands of adults interacting means a whole wealth of experience and knowledge is here and available for you to confide in. "

remember that? the way i take it, everyone's ignorant of the fundamentals of a given art or branch of knowledge. 'ignorant' is simply lacking education or knowledge . the ignorance you also use is the actions based on ignorance.. more along the lines of stupidity

as far as i can see, im guilty of the lack of knowledge. it might seem stupid in your eyes, but its lack of knowledge plain and simple. so sue me. isnt this forum's goal to help people who are interested in bettering themselves as intelligent, worldly individuals? not only that, but doesn't figuring this out help everyone else in the forum as well? from what i discern, the majority only say that the vagina is elastic. nothing more. no reasons. just that it's elastic. you're telling me there's no ignorance there? help us out here, halx, with some of that knowledge of yours.

if your lost reading this, i apologize. my writing isnt up for shit. shoulda seen my senior thesis

lumpenprole

Not on the infighting tip, more on the info tip:

Girls anatomy has different sizes as well. To be completely accurate, different girls dilate to different sizes with differing amounts of difficulty.
This is accepted medical fact, but I'll back it up with a personal anecdote. I am not hung like anything other than an average person, but I had a college g/f who might as well been doing it with John Holmes. Despite ample interest and lubrication, it was always a chore to get things moving. And if we went at it for too long, she paid for it in soreness.
What's important is not your size, but that you find somebody that fits.

tisonlyi

The only way a man with a bigger willy will get a performance boost is from the lift in his confidence that is rather foolishly attached to the size of one's manhood.

I reckon.

BTW, Ivor Biggun.

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raeanna74

Correct!
What do you think happens when a woman has a baby? If it gets that loose and stretched her husband probably wouldn't want to have sex with her anymore. - She'd be stretched to at least 3 or 4 inches in diameter if not more. The Vagina is VERY elasitic. Sometimes it takes a little while to bounce back but it can go back to almost it's original state.

From my own experience - going from a larger penis to a smaller one doesn't matter. For me I prefer a medium size. A larger sized than average is fun and exciting but sometimes it's all intensity and not as relaxing. I think it matters more what kind of lovin you are into and DEFINATELY the motion of the ocean makes a huge difference. I've had men who were a little larger than average and yet were "boring" in a way because there was nothing more to it than plain quickie sex. On the other hand I've had men who were smaller than average and really put some effort into making me feel good and I loved it.

Just my experience.

crayzeeredhead

Okay guys!! Just FYI, in my opinion size doesn't really matter!!! I mean its nice but too much can hurt !! I prefer a guy who knows how to use it!! Because no matter how big it is if you dont know what to do with it is a waste of space!! I also would like ya'll to know that fore-play is a must and it makes it easier to get a girl to do oral!!
And yes a woman is elastic we tend to go right back to shallow after we A.) have sex with a well endowed man. B.) AFter having children C.) use plastic !! so, dont think we are all loose We are not

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grumpyolddude

Halx, you are tilting at windmills. I have been, too, for years. He's 18 years old and books are those evil things those bastards made him look at in school. The practical facts of self-education may dawn upon him someday, hopefully. Until then, if it's not on an info-mercial or a *really kewl website*, it's not worth knowing. With that attitude, the most important thing for him to remember is to ask every guest if they'd like to "super size" it.

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motdakasha

http://www.netdoctor.co.uk/sex_relat...vaginasize.htm
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"Unfortunately, there's a very common myth in some parts of Britain - a myth to the effect that a woman who has lots of sex will get a large vagina. This is just nonsense! No matter how much sex you have, it won't affect your vaginal size."

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ehaffner5

Average penis size is 5 and 1/4 inches. A little less or a little more, it doesnt matter. Its all in how you work it.

Jim Kata

Is this topic ever going to die?
And when it does, how long until someone posts a new thread about it?
What are the vegas odds on that?
Can I ask anymore questions?
Your damn skippy I can.

mtsgsd

That was a very well thought out, coherent, REPECTFULL reply.

I'll agree that your idea sounds stupid to someone who knows better, but we all gotta remember how we learned better right?

He's got the words of the charter right there.

Ok, sorry for keeping the thread going, but damn, he doesn't deserve to be persecuted for using the forum the way it was intended.

Just my not so humble opinion.

tisonlyi

Can I just clarify my previous post.

Ivor Very Biggun.

Thanks Very Muchly.

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Super Model

Great Point Halx! It is all a myth. Just do a good job, give plenty of orgasms to her, you will be fine.