However, a part of me believes that if the genders were reversed, there would be a call for sexual harassment charges.

Could you imagine Owen Karen's Fuck List? "I will now present to you all the bitches I bagged, will full commentary and rating, deeming whether they were hot to trot or lousy lays. Of course, bonus points if they do anal. Penalties for not swallowing."

Social norms are one thing, and I'll agree with you that there will be no condemnation of her like there would be if it were a man, as BG suggested.

But...

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These are arguably factual claims with demonstrable true/false values. If what she said was demonstrably false, legal matters are entirely agnostic to social norms. I could see demonstrating actual harm too; if I were one of these guys I'd feel pretty harmed.

I didn't see the bit about points being deducted for being Canadian.

Ba ha ha....

So I re-read her review of the Canadian guy and it sounds like he didn't want to play ball with respect to her study (assuming she was forward with these guys and told them up front what she was up to so as not to be sued for liable at some point down the road.)

He (the Canadian dude) just blew his load, walked out of the room, and never spoke to her again. (I can only imagine him shaking his cock off on her after they had sex.)

Then she called him about some lost earings and he said to her that he'd leave them OUTSIDE of his apartment for her to pick up. :thumbsup:

Har.

Either this guy is that much of a dick, or he saw right through her.

I'm guessing the latter.

Reminds me of the time a girl I know got gussied up to do a thesis presentation. I dunno.

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Still, you can't blame her I guess. She's smart if publicity is what she wants.

I'm sure you might want to side with the guys here (because the chick is a douchebagguette) but I don't think this girl was smart enough to think about lawsuits so I'm pretty sure she never told them about the study. If that is the case, (far more likely) then the dude is just a dick.

Who here really believes this whole study was premeditate? I see all the signs of a drunken conversation leading to the idea of this PP. You are all giving this girl WAYYYYYY to much credit for this.

The drunken conversation probably went something like this...

(After many drinks) "You know, these freshman girls don't know SHIT about what it is to PAR-TY! (Insert high pitched female cheers)"

"Yeah, they need people like US to show them... like the way and stuff."

"You are TOTALLY right _____, we could like, teach them stuff. Like a class."

"HAHA that's totally AWESOME _____, we could have class notes and like powerpoints!"

"That's a fucking AWESOME idea, we are SOOOOOO smart."

Then the idea of the fuck list powerpoint was born. I mean, she went to college at DUKE, she couldn't have been THAT smart.

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The only guys that cared about this list are those that 1) Sucked in bed which would hurt their reputation to bang other drunken chicks and 2) those who wanted to go into politics (which would be none).

The guys that got a high score on here? I'm sure they are posting their scores all over their social networking sites. What guy doesn't like being told that he was awesome in bed?

this probably has been said already but if this was made by a guy there would be lawsuits all up his ass.

and some of the comments i heard from the media about this are funny and it seems like they don't understand that she gave this to her friends to laugh at the guys then when her friends shared this with others she claims that she never intended to hurt any of them........

She was dumb. This whole thing was dumb. The people who decided this qualifies as news are dumb. American views on sexuality are dumb. We're all dumb for continuing to discuss this, including this post.

Looks like somebody did make the list. And my Spider Sense is also telling me that it isn't strictly American. Women are treated like sex objects in all cultures to some degree. I think it all comes back to the pants: Who is wearing them and who is taking them off.

Of course there are places that are worse, but in a lot of ways we're essentially a third world country and our hypocrisy regarding sexuality is one of them.

Before I start looking at feminist sites for countries that aren't as sexist as the United States, anybody wanna drop a few suggestions? Europe? Uh... yeah.

African countries? Hell no.

Asian countries? Pretty neutral, yes, but they have their own unique set of sex/gender issues.

Australia? Westernized.

South America? Dunno.