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FuglyStick · 08-03-2010, 08:54 AM

'Sugarbabe' favors negotiated infidelity - CNN.com

tl,dr version:

Woman gets dumped by married man she has been "kept" by; unfortunately, her only income was being the man's hot pocket.
Rather than using the psychology degree that she has to find a job, woman decides to indulge her co-dependency issues, and becomes grand-a-week prostitute.
Woman comes to the conclusion that men are no smarter than their dicks, and advises women to put up with their douchebag mates if they want to keep a roof over their head.

(This isn't about polyamory; the person in a polyamorous has even less reason to stray outside the boundaries of the relationship compared to someone in a monogamous relationship, according to the reasoning of Sugardupe. Get caught straying outside of a polyamorous relationship, and I imagine you have some 'splainin' to do to TWO Lucys.)

So, does anyone still buy the tired "me man, me fuck" biological argument/quakery as to why douchebags can't keep their dicks within the confines of a relationship?

mixedmedia · 08-03-2010, 09:30 AM

I've never bought that and anyone who does is rationalizing.

I don't deny that there is a male biological impulse to 'plant one's seed' as widely as possible in order to better ensure continuation of the species. It's just that they are equally shaped by environmental and social realities that moderate those biological impulses to a great extent.

FuglyStick · 08-03-2010, 09:44 AM

Has anyone ever been angry enough with someone to want to do real, physical harm to that person? Because, you know, if you don't have enough control over yourself to keep that impulse in check, you could be a guest on the Jerry Springer show.

Baraka_Guru · 08-03-2010, 10:42 AM

If I were no smarter than my cock, then my cock is pretty dumb. It's not fucking nearly enough.

Plan9 · 08-03-2010, 10:52 AM

It's hardly arguable that my smoothspot is smarter than the rest of me.

pig · 08-03-2010, 03:12 PM

Nope. I think a whole host of things leads to people cheating in relationships, but not an impossibility to deny carnal impulses. This thread needs theme music.

MSD · 08-03-2010, 04:43 PM

In the end, it's sex for money and a perpetuation of the destructive attitude that intimate relationships are a zero sum game.

Memnoch · 08-03-2010, 05:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FuglyStick

Has anyone ever been angry enough with someone to want to do real, physical harm to that person?

Exactly this. My instinct is often to beat the hell out of somebody - often for shit as menial as talking on a cell phone when it's not appropriate. But I don't, because it's not a good thing to do. Similarly, my instinct is often to try to fuck everything that breathes and has an orifice, but I don't, because it's (usually) not a good thing to do.

My point being that my instincts don't make decisions for me, even if sometimes they inform them. The idea that it's normal or okay for a man to stray from a relationship that has been set up as mutually monogamous simply presumes that men can't or won't make conscious decisions informed by more than just their impulses.

ASU2003 · 08-03-2010, 07:17 PM

I'm not sure I would want to be with a woman who was OK with me sleeping with other women when she isn't involved in it.

There are a lot of factors that lead men to cheat. The media should be reporting on how couples can stay happy (even if their relationship isn't perfect or there are 'better' people out there), not encouraging Jon & Kate + 8 types of relationships that might be fun for a while but will not last.

Wes Mantooth · 08-03-2010, 10:09 PM

Yeah the urge to fuck is a harsh mistress but its not that hard to walk away from temptation either. Very few people lack total impulse control. Lets be honest, its a BS stereotype about men that's bandied about by jades lovers to rationalize why their bored, castrated, purse carrying, nagged to death boyfriends/husbands are cheating, which in turn is equally thrown about by douchebag guys trying to rationalize why they couldn't keep their dick from seeking out the hot secretary like a fleshy dowsing rod. There is always a lot more behind cheating then a biological desire to "get some" chances are if you look at the relationship, something is amiss somewhere.

Case in point the women in the OP. Of course your boyfriend/sugar daddy broke it off he was probably about the lose half his stuff after a nice ass raping by his wife's divorce lawyer. Its just easier to think its all biological, then actually having to examine the messed up relationship you were in isn't it?

Having said that, $1,000 a week is pretty sweet, if she wants to do it more power to her. That kind of money is hard to turn down.

Plan9 · 08-04-2010, 07:25 AM

But $1000 a week is only $200 a day assuming she takes Sat. and Sun. off to hose out her high mileage hotdog holster.

That's peanuts. You can make more than that legally and you don't have to pay for rent or food or Summer's Eve or Valtrex.

She needs to charge more. If men are as only as smart as their wang, she's not far behind. $200 a day. Pfft.

Baraka_Guru · 08-04-2010, 07:47 AM

Jesus, if I could get $200 a day, I'd feel like a prince.

But this whole thing of "sex for stuff" wouldn't be a bad deal if that's what each party was mostly after.

Wes Mantooth · 08-04-2010, 08:19 PM

I never understood why people have such a thing about prostitution. Guy wants to pay, girl wants the money (or vice versa) why should I or anybody give a care?

And I agree she should probably should be charging more perhaps she's somewhat challenged in the looks department. Years of being looked after by a sugar daddy can take its toll...maybe that's why he broke it off?

raging moderate · 08-07-2010, 09:56 AM

yeah i'm with ya, what the hell difference does it make if two consenting adults have a romp after some money is exchanged? that's pretty much all that happens in any relationship, ever, anyway. Ever been with a girl who you had to buy dinner, take her out to the movies, shopping, etc? Ever been in a relationship in which you had to contribute anything? It is essentially the same thing, only the currency changes. As far as the being as dumb as my cock goes, idk about all that, I haven't had a piece of strange in years and I know if my cock were in charge things would be different.

edit: my visual contribution ...

Willravel · 08-07-2010, 09:59 AM

My cock is currently working on the grand unified theory with Cal Tech scientists and is going to be a guest speaker at Cambridge on the topic of poverty in Latin America.

dlish · 08-07-2010, 08:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Willravel

My cock is currently working on the grand unified theory with Cal Tech scientists and is going to be a guest speaker at Cambridge on the topic of poverty in Latin America.

you're going to have to cast it on tfp chat when you deliver your talk will.

MSD · 08-09-2010, 10:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Willravel

My cock is currently working on the grand unified theory with Cal Tech scientists and is going to be a guest speaker at Cambridge on the topic of poverty in Latin America.

Does your cock's work on the grand unified theory cross over with the Large Hardon Collider project?

Plan9 · 08-09-2010, 11:06 AM

Jesus, no Small Hadron Collider jokes?

FuglyStick · 08-09-2010, 11:13 AM

My cock sends me out to see a movie when it has its cock brain trust meetings at the house.

Amaras · 08-09-2010, 11:23 AM

I've done dumb shit with my cock when drinking. While sober, I've always been
able to control myself.

08-03-2010, 08:54 AM	#1 (permalink)
FuglyStick WHEEEE! Whee! Whee! WHEEEE! Location: Southern Illinois	"Sugarbabe" thinks you're no smarter than your cock 'Sugarbabe' favors negotiated infidelity - CNN.com tl,dr version: Woman gets dumped by married man she has been "kept" by; unfortunately, her only income was being the man's hot pocket. Rather than using the psychology degree that she has to find a job, woman decides to indulge her co-dependency issues, and becomes grand-a-week prostitute. Woman comes to the conclusion that men are no smarter than their dicks, and advises women to put up with their douchebag mates if they want to keep a roof over their head. (This isn't about polyamory; the person in a polyamorous has even less reason to stray outside the boundaries of the relationship compared to someone in a monogamous relationship, according to the reasoning of Sugardupe. Get caught straying outside of a polyamorous relationship, and I imagine you have some 'splainin' to do to TWO Lucys.) So, does anyone still buy the tired "me man, me fuck" biological argument/quakery as to why douchebags can't keep their dicks within the confines of a relationship? __________________ AZIZ! LIGHT!

08-03-2010, 09:30 AM	#2 (permalink)
mixedmedia has all her shots. Location: Florida	I've never bought that and anyone who does is rationalizing. I don't deny that there is a male biological impulse to 'plant one's seed' as widely as possible in order to better ensure continuation of the species. It's just that they are equally shaped by environmental and social realities that moderate those biological impulses to a great extent. __________________ Most people go through life dreading they'll have a traumatic experience. Freaks were born with their trauma. They've already passed their test in life. They're aristocrats. - Diane Arbus PESSIMISM, n. A philosophy forced upon the convictions of the observer by the disheartening prevalence of the optimist with his scarecrow hope and his unsightly smile. - Ambrose Bierce

08-03-2010, 09:44 AM	#3 (permalink)
FuglyStick WHEEEE! Whee! Whee! WHEEEE! Location: Southern Illinois	Has anyone ever been angry enough with someone to want to do real, physical harm to that person? Because, you know, if you don't have enough control over yourself to keep that impulse in check, you could be a guest on the Jerry Springer show. __________________ AZIZ! LIGHT!

08-03-2010, 10:42 AM	#4 (permalink)
Baraka_Guru warrior bodhisattva Super Moderator Location: East-central Canada	If I were no smarter than my cock, then my cock is pretty dumb. It's not fucking nearly enough. __________________ Knowing that death is certain and that the time of death is uncertain, what's the most important thing? —Bhikkhuni Pema Chödrön Humankind cannot bear very much reality. —From "Burnt Norton," Four Quartets (1936), T. S. Eliot

08-03-2010, 10:52 AM	#5 (permalink)
Plan9 I Confess a Shiver	It's hardly arguable that my smoothspot is smarter than the rest of me. __________________ *Whatever you can carry.* "You should not drink... and bake."

08-03-2010, 03:12 PM	#6 (permalink)
pig pigglet pigglet Location: Locash	Nope. I think a whole host of things leads to people cheating in relationships, but not an impossibility to deny carnal impulses. This thread needs theme music. __________________ You don't love me, you just love my piggy style

08-03-2010, 04:43 PM	#7 (permalink)
MSD The sky calls to us ... Super Moderator Location: CT	In the end, it's sex for money and a perpetuation of the destructive attitude that intimate relationships are a zero sum game.

08-03-2010, 07:17 PM	#9 (permalink)
ASU2003 immoral minority Location: Back in Ohio	I'm not sure I would want to be with a woman who was OK with me sleeping with other women when she isn't involved in it. There are a lot of factors that lead men to cheat. The media should be reporting on how couples can stay happy (even if their relationship isn't perfect or there are 'better' people out there), not encouraging Jon & Kate + 8 types of relationships that might be fun for a while but will not last.

08-03-2010, 10:09 PM	#10 (permalink)
Wes Mantooth Junkie Location: Tennessee	Yeah the urge to fuck is a harsh mistress but its not that hard to walk away from temptation either. Very few people lack total impulse control. Lets be honest, its a BS stereotype about men that's bandied about by jades lovers to rationalize why their bored, castrated, purse carrying, nagged to death boyfriends/husbands are cheating, which in turn is equally thrown about by douchebag guys trying to rationalize why they couldn't keep their dick from seeking out the hot secretary like a fleshy dowsing rod. There is always a lot more behind cheating then a biological desire to "get some" chances are if you look at the relationship, something is amiss somewhere. Case in point the women in the OP. Of course your boyfriend/sugar daddy broke it off he was probably about the lose half his stuff after a nice ass raping by his wife's divorce lawyer. Its just easier to think its all biological, then actually having to examine the messed up relationship you were in isn't it? Having said that, $1,000 a week is pretty sweet, if she wants to do it more power to her. That kind of money is hard to turn down. __________________ “My god I must have missed it...its hell down here!”

08-04-2010, 07:25 AM	#11 (permalink)
Plan9 I Confess a Shiver	But $1000 a week is only $200 a day assuming she takes Sat. and Sun. off to hose out her high mileage hotdog holster. That's peanuts. You can make more than that legally and you don't have to pay for rent or food or Summer's Eve or Valtrex. She needs to charge more. If men are as only as smart as their wang, she's not far behind. $200 a day. Pfft. __________________ *Whatever you can carry.* "You should not drink... and bake." Last edited by Plan9; 08-04-2010 at 07:29 AM..

08-04-2010, 07:47 AM	#12 (permalink)
Baraka_Guru warrior bodhisattva Super Moderator Location: East-central Canada	Jesus, if I could get $200 a day, I'd feel like a prince. But this whole thing of "sex for stuff" wouldn't be a bad deal if that's what each party was mostly after. __________________ Knowing that death is certain and that the time of death is uncertain, what's the most important thing? —Bhikkhuni Pema Chödrön Humankind cannot bear very much reality. —From "Burnt Norton," Four Quartets (1936), T. S. Eliot

08-04-2010, 08:19 PM	#13 (permalink)
Wes Mantooth Junkie Location: Tennessee	I never understood why people have such a thing about prostitution. Guy wants to pay, girl wants the money (or vice versa) why should I or anybody give a care? And I agree she should probably should be charging more perhaps she's somewhat challenged in the looks department. Years of being looked after by a sugar daddy can take its toll...maybe that's why he broke it off? __________________ “My god I must have missed it...its hell down here!”

08-07-2010, 09:56 AM	#14 (permalink)
raging moderate Insane Location: Whatever house my keys can get me into	yeah i'm with ya, what the hell difference does it make if two consenting adults have a romp after some money is exchanged? that's pretty much all that happens in any relationship, ever, anyway. Ever been with a girl who you had to buy dinner, take her out to the movies, shopping, etc? Ever been in a relationship in which you had to contribute anything? It is essentially the same thing, only the currency changes. As far as the being as dumb as my cock goes, idk about all that, I haven't had a piece of strange in years and I know if my cock were in charge things would be different. edit: my visual contribution ... __________________ These are the good old days... formerly Murp0434 Last edited by raging moderate; 08-07-2010 at 10:01 AM..

08-07-2010, 09:59 AM	#15 (permalink)
Willravel ... a sort of licensed troubleshooter.	My cock is currently working on the grand unified theory with Cal Tech scientists and is going to be a guest speaker at Cambridge on the topic of poverty in Latin America.

08-09-2010, 11:06 AM	#18 (permalink)
Plan9 I Confess a Shiver	Jesus, no Small Hadron Collider jokes? __________________ *Whatever you can carry.* "You should not drink... and bake."

08-09-2010, 11:23 AM	#20 (permalink)
Amaras Junkie Location: At my daughter's beck and call.	I've done dumb shit with my cock when drinking. While sober, I've always been able to control myself. __________________ Propaganda is to a democracy what the bludgeon is to a totalitarian state. -Noam Chomsky Love is a verb, not a noun. -My Mom The function of genius is to furnish cretins with ideas twenty years later. -Louis Aragon, "La Porte-plume," Traite du style, 1928

08-09-2010, 11:13 AM	#19 (permalink)
FuglyStick WHEEEE! Whee! Whee! WHEEEE! Location: Southern Illinois	My cock sends me out to see a movie when it has its cock brain trust meetings at the house. __________________ AZIZ! LIGHT!