cellophanedeity

I watched the video that Little_Tippler posted in the "Found on the Web" forum, (link)and one part of it stood out to me:

Mary Roach seemed interested in people that can orgasm without genital contact.

I have been able to orgasm without touching my vulva for about as long as I've been having sex. If I'm already aroused, then simple things can make me come without issue. In the past (and likely, in the future) I have orgasmed from cold objects being pressed against my back, my shoulders being bitten, my arms being stroked softly, many many times from nipple play, from having my toes licked, from being pinched, and a couple of times just because I was told to.

I really don't think that it's that unusual, but I may be wrong.

Even Mr. Cohen agrees: I do understand this is much harder for men, since ejaculation is such a major part of orgasm for them. Could you bring yourself to that climactic point without reaching ejaculation? Have you ever gone the whole way without being touched in supposedly "sexual" regions?

Can you come without your genitals being touched? Can your partner? Would you want to if you could? Would you be willing to try?

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mixedmedia

I have never had an orgasm from being touched on another part of my body (would I want to if I could? Yes!), but I have had orgasms in my sleep without any stimulation at all and I have had an orgasm while having my labia lightly stroked with no clitoral contact. That was exciting.

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Toaster126

I am not able to myself, but most of my partners have. I think it's prolly a girl thing, to be honest.

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ratbastid

It's hard to imagine, frankly. I bet you'll find more women experiencing it than men.

Me? If you want me to come, you've got to handle the goods. Pretty much all there is to it.

Here's my question, cel: are non-genital orgasms the same as genital ones? As strong? Feel the same? If not, how are they different?

FelixP

No, I don't have that skill. Hell, I've never even had a wet dream. I need contact to get a jolly.

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genuinegirly

Pretty common for me, honestly. Stroking the back of my neck or running fingers through my hair, nipple play... well, just about anything can tip me over the edge honestly as long as I'm in the mood.

It's not just a girl thing, though - I've gotten Tt to that point. Not regularly, but a few times. The first time he was pretty embarassed by it, he thought something was wrong with him.

For me, they tend to be more intense than an orgasm from penetration, but less powerful than a clitoral-stimulated orgasm.
Often they're a nice warmup - incorporated into foreplay.

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cellophanedeity

I never come as hard as I do during penetrative sex, but they can be more intense than a clitoral orgasm.

When I'm "hurt" into orgasm, by biting or pinching and the like, the orgasms tend to be warmer and really intense throughout my spine. The soft touching ones tend to be more shivery and feel like really good pins and needles all over, but are a little less intense.

As most things, it depends on the situation, and what has me hot for the moment.

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wooÐs

I've cum before by a bf just playing with and kissing my nipples. I was due for my period att though, which is when I'm intensely horny anyways.
For me, it was much more intense than any other orgasm I've experienced. It was strange to cum with my legs closed. And I think that strangeness alone intensified it.

I think I might try this soon to see if I can get it to happen again. Good thread topic.

Gebbinn

actually, men can experience this as well, we just tend to label it as "premature ejaculation" and think there is something wrong with us. Some men are more prone than others, but any man, if he is turned on enough, has the possibility of orgasm without genital contact. I have experienced it once or twice when I was younger, but the older i get, the harder it is for me to orgasm at all, so I doubt any woman would have much chance at getting me to that point now.

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jewels

Yes, I definitely can.

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Willravel

Yes, if someone put something cold on my back, I generally just get cold.

I'm afraid that the male orgasmic experience is entirely tied up in the act of genital stimulation leading to ejaculating in my experience.

SSJTWIZTA

the closest feeling i get to an orgasm without touching my junk is when i take a nice free-handed piss.

lucky ladies.

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isnt evey piss free handed?

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ratbastid

Yours aims itself?

Not that I understand SSJTWIZTA's comment really either...

SSJTWIZTA

no, i have to aim by doing a hip-twist.


yup, im fully aware that im an awkward individual.

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savmesom11

I think this is very unusual for women. Many women spend their entire lives just trying to have an orgasm with a partner....

I have woken during an erotic dream to an orgasm. I have been able to come w/o genital contact but rarely.......Yes I want to, and I am always willing to try a new technique.

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I don't cum easily...but when I was preggo, this also worked for me!! The only thing I miss about being preggo is sensitive nipples....MmMmMm

Vigilante

I have nearly done this, but still required stimulation..umm...nearby. I don't suppose the prostate is considered genitalia? I can do it now as well, on some days. It's very intense, like I'm going to fall over paralyzed with every pulse. Once I'm spent, if I stand up fast, I get a light ringing in my ears that drowns out the sounds around me, so I barely hear anything else. If I breathe slowly, it lasts longer, up to a minute. I'm also dizzy during this time, like a headrush. I don't try to make this happen but when it does, I'm in heaven.

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levite

Generally speaking, I think that at least for me, genital contact is needed. I never had wet dreams as a youngster, probably because I spent all my free time jerking off, but I did once come in my pants, without any genital contact. I was fifteen, and though I wasn't a virgin, I was with the hottest girl I'd ever gone out with-- way, way hotter than I ever even expected to go out with-- and I was pleasantly surprised when she demanded that I kiss her. I guess I had a hair trigger, and while we were making out, I shot off. Thank God I was still young enough to stay totally hard, making for a successful evening afterward. But it did happen, at least that once.

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little_tippler

cell, thanks for posting this! I am fascinated to know that quite a few of the ladies here are able to do this. Now I'm jealous. I think I am probably capable, because I have had a handful of sex dreams where I wake up and it feels like I orgasmed, and never touched myself. But the dream is so real that I guess it triggers that. But this ability is clearly locked inside somewhere. I don't think it's all that common for most women, that's probably why Mary Roach mentions it.

I have seen some porn where men have an orgasm without being touched genitally, one did it through nipple play alone, and surprisingly fast. Another did it by what appears to be some kind of penis contractions, which then made him come.

I guess some people have all the luck! I wish this could be taught. I guess it just has to do with overal sensitivity of a person. But if orgasms are a reaction of the limbic nervous system, it makes sense to think that orgasms are in the mind more than specific organs. Maybe if one can learn to develop the nervous connections that lead to stimulation of this system, we can achieve some amazing orgasms. So there is hope...I think now I have to go write a book on how to unlock your inner orgasm...lol

Wiki says this: "Orgasm may also be achieved by stimulation of the nipples, uterus, or other erogenous zones. In addition to physical stimulation, orgasm can be achieved from psychological arousal alone, such as during dreaming (which may be a nocturnal emission)."

the uterus?! huh. How do you do that?

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Halx

Yeah, there has got to be a way to hypnotize or train someone into having orgasms through a non-genital area.

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allaboutmusic

With the help of someone very well endowed?

Anormalguy

My wife can orgasm several times with no physical stimulation of the usual hot spots, but this happens during certain activities where the psychological stimulation is very high for her. She can get very close to orgasming when I touch and kiss her shoulders & neck, but it takes some nipple play to get her to come.

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skinnymofo

on a fairly old (mid to late 90's) Tom Leykis show he had a man who would use a form of hypnotizm and mind something or other to get them to just concentrate really hard on the last time they had it and apparently it worked. This being over the radio though its hard to say how true it was honestly

Sharon

I have orgasmed from someone breathing on me... and I have also had an orgasm from having phone sex (in public, no less, and without touching myself). Does anal sex count as genital stimulation?

purplelirpa

You are quite lucky! The only time that has happened to me was while I was alternating clitoral stimulation with nipple playing during masturbation. As an experiment, I got myself up to the cusp of the point of no return, removed my hand from my clitoris, and continued with nipple stimulation and was able to orgasm. Maybe if I did this more frequently I could train myself to orgasm from nipple play alone?

The thought of breastfeeding makes me rather uneasy because of the accounts I've read of women having orgasms during the act. Yay biology for making nurturing activities more pleasant, but it's enough to make me squeamish.

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little_tippler

I think anal would count, because it's just next door I wish I could orgasm just from someone breathing on me. Wow. Must be amazing.

That's a pretty good idea. Maybe I will try this. It's somewhere to start.

at the breastfeeding comment. But yeah...ick!

Also, wanted to ask, for the ladies who are able to orgasm this way: does the orgasm you're refering to feel that different to a genital orgasm (clitoral, or vaginal, or anal)? If so, how? Maybe we don't all have the same understanding of what an orgasm actually is.

As a side note, I had been orgasming for years before I first heard of orgasms, and it took me a while to realize I was already having them. For a while, I thought there was something else, extra, that was supposed to happen. Yes, I was disappointed when it didn't. Oh well!

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Our hearts are incommunicable still.
In what we show ourselves we are ignored.
The abyss from soul to soul cannot be bridged
By any skill of thought or trick of seeming.
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We are our dreams of ourselves, souls by gleams,
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jewels

Hmmm. I'd spent years knowing I hadn't orgasmed and when I finally did I was overjoyed.

This also may be different for each of us, but for me those without genital stimulation are softer but even more intense, if that makes sense. For me, it's a slow gentle touch that will bring me to this type of climax, so it seems that an orgasm that is from a very slow build up and come in constant smaller waves over a longer period of time. For me, it's not the type that could potentially have me screaming, but it does turn me into a total animal because it just feels soooo sweet and delectable.

As for breastfeeding, although I will admit in the beginning there were pleasurable sensations, I think I somehow was able to retrain my responses within a very short amount of time. I would think that this might be one of those innate responses?

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curiousbear

+1

Honestly most of my orgasms are after some visual stimulation and lot of kindness to my cock.
My partner, I cant comment

Once a girl told me that she came twice in a massage parlor during a simple back massage, just because it was all hot and he happen to slightly rub her sides near breasts.

So for both boys and girls, i think it is all about the arousal level.

Important note. I get a SHRILLLLL running feeling in my body which I use to mistake to be orgasms. I get these during worship, a really exciting and mind blowing experience. This is NOT associated with any ejaculate. So I later learnt this is NOT orgasm at all. I dont know the name of this FEELING.

Hope here no one is similarly confused between real orgasms and AN OTHER MIND BLOWING SENSATION.

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If you ask whether I would like to have non-genital orgasms, something like a 'spell' - i would love that.

Coincidentally I read only today an experiment they performed on rats. They inserted a needle deep inside hypothaulamus of a mouse. When ever the mouse would press a pedal, the needle will give an impulse. The mouse use to rejoice it. soon it started constantly pedaling and died blissfully. I will be like that mouse if I had had a spell like that

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I dont think so

So you had had three non-genital orgasmic possibilities
So lucky you

purplelirpa

sign me up for this!

Reminds me of the old aeon flux cartoons, with that chick whose spine they were always tinkering with, really seemed to bring her a lot of pleasure!

thesaurosie

When my boyfriend and I first started dating, I was so into him that his hand on the back of my neck made me shudder (pleasantly), I was so not used to it. I have had lots of boyfriends, and a fair bit of sex. Before we had even kissed, one night we spent a large amount of time (somewhere between twenty and fifty minutes, I feel, no joke) tracing each others' hands with our own. His warm, dry hand on my wrist made my insides twist and I reckon it might have one of the most sexually exciting experiences of my life. But actually reaching? Lucky bastards!

Shaindra

This thread confirms for me that life is *so* not fair...

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little_tippler

Here is an interesting article, in wired:

Exploring the Mind-Body Orgasm

I find it fascinating that people who have no sensation below the waist are still able to experience orgasms. Amazing stuff.

Also, they refer to an important interaction between the orgasmic experience and the pain experience, since apparently our response to pain is inhibited when we are close to orgasm.

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Whether we write or speak or do but look
We are ever unapparent. What we are
Cannot be transfused into word or book.
Our soul from us is infinitely far.
However much we give our thoughts the will
To be our soul and gesture it abroad,
Our hearts are incommunicable still.
In what we show ourselves we are ignored.
The abyss from soul to soul cannot be bridged
By any skill of thought or trick of seeming.
Unto our very selves we are abridged
When we would utter to our thought our being.
We are our dreams of ourselves, souls by gleams,
And each to each other dreams of others' dreams.

Fernando Pessoa, 1918