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So i was talking to a few of my female friends and the subject of facials came up. My personal stance was it gets me as a male off to see a female covered in my splooge. I think of it about the same as how some girls can get off on seeing a guys face shiney after he preforms cunnilingus. However, my female friends said from their perspective they felt like it was a mans way of degrading them and treating them like property. So what does everyone think is the facial degrading or just good messy fun?

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mixedmedia

I think it is a bit degrading and just good messy fun.

To me, if you trust the man you are with and know that later you will be laying in bed laughing together or snuggling up to go to sleep or watching a good movie together *equally* then it hardly matters how the power dynamics shift when you are hot and bothered and ready for anything.

I would not be so inclined to go in this direction with someone I was sleeping with casually.

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Bear Cub

I don't think it would be as much fun if it wasn't a little bit degrading. Like pulling hair and face fucking.

mixedmedia

Yez.

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Plan9

Yeah, hooah. Playful ass-slapping and fingernail scratching and shoulder biting and a gentle choking and dirty talk.

Is all the same stuff in my book. The hotness. Trying to mentally fuck your partner while you physically fuck them.

It's all good (weird) consensual fun, I figure... but... uh, don't pee on my bedsheets.

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Dunno, I think guys do it to "mark their territory." Some women allow it because they like the notion.

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Willravel

It's her call. If she wants to swallow, that's cool. If she wants to split, that's cool. If she wants a warning pat, that's cool. If she wants to look like the blob? Her call. Quite frankly, I don't even care.

Plan9

... do you phone sex in these days or what?

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Tully Mars

They're always bunch of power issues whenever you're having sex. Unless of course you're alone. I guess if you're MPD even then. Ah anyway, I think the whole facial thing is just an example power and control. Personally I prefer to leave a mess or have her swallow, but it's certainly not a deal breaker. Being with someone who's not into it is far worse then not getting exactly what you want.

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PonyPotato

If semen didn't apparently give me a rash above the collarbone (...), it would probably be more appealing.

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Plan9

I bet you weld her chassis real good, don't ya?

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Bear Cub

Technically speaking, weld wouldn't be the appropriate term.



However, I have been known to "lay down a decent bead" every now and then, so to speak.

Plan9

So... uh... BeadSprayer as a new handle?

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Uh... facials... uh... seems like some kind of sexual congratulation method... a bizarre, one-sided reproductive-fluid high-five.

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snowy

I'm not a fan, unless we're in the shower. I don't like having it on my skin for too long as it kind of stings.

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jewels

Anywhere, everywhere. Total hotness.

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canuckguy

i feel deja vu with topic?!?

i would love to know the orgins of "the facial" and why it became so popular.

i like seeing it in porno and use to do the act occasionally with the lady friend. well i should say i use to do it as she does not look like she is enjoying it so i don't do them anymore. she says that she does not mind but i can tell. I think the "hot" part to me is the thought that she likes them and i don't believe she does so i stopped.

a girl i dated previously use to beg for them, uber sexy!

I don't think facials are a power/control thing, just something us men want to emulate from porn. Monkey see, monkey do. Facials are ok for a once in a blue moon thing, but don't really fit into a loving sexual encounter.

Tully Mars

Yeah, I prefer that. Having her take one on the chin for the team but not really enjoying it doesn't really work for me.

I think to some degree you're wrong about the power and control. I don't think the porn industry came (no pun intended) upon this by accident.

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canuckguy

Sorry i should have phrased that differently, i mean it is not a power/control thing for me. Well maybe it is an i just don't know it!

Plan9

Meh, I think [smut] imitates life to a certain extent.

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abaya

I'm usually fine with it, as long as it doesn't get into my hair, eyes, nose, or mouth. I don't mind swallowing if he ejects directly into my mouth from a BJ, but when it's on my face, then drips into my mouth... no, not cool. And eyes and nose are just a given no-go area, of course. But the hair is the worst to get it out of.

So yes, like snowy, I usually prefer it to happen in the shower, just for clean-up purposes. Otherwise, tissue around my face to keep it out of my hair. For real.

Also, what she said: I'm usually up for trying just about anything, due to this kind of dynamic with my husband. With anyone else? Very doubtful.

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Jenna

I feel that it is degrading, but I like that aspect of it.

I think some women who don't like it either think it's too gross, and too messy. While others don't like being degraded in that manner.

And, while I like it, I prefer it does not get in my eyes or hair. Because that hurts and is hard to get out.

Bees

I used to think it would be a great thing to try with my girl probably because we saw it done in porn flics. So I asked if she would like to try it and she said yes if I was willing to come on my own face too. I thought it would be worth trying at least once. So one day she sucked me off and let me cum on her face. I have to admit it was really great and she said she loved it except for the mess it left in her hair.

Next day was my turn. I was open for the experience and my girl got me upside down with my legs up on the bed and my shoulders on the floor.
She jerked me off until I came all over my face and I opened my mouth to taste it just like she does when I come in her mouth. I thought it would taste bad. But It didn't taste bad at all and the hot load on my face felt really good.

Now for the bad part; Some of my spunk got into my eye and it really stung. I had to wash it out but it stung for a long time. That really killed the feeling but we have no regrets. Because we were both willing to try it I think the experience enhanced the trust in our relationship and except for the stinging eye I have a fond memory of it. Anyway no more facials for either of us but we do share my spunk once in a while still.

Any other guys out there into sharing it?

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pig

For me, it's very situational - but in all cases, a spontaneous facial is something I can deal with...a controlled facial does nothing for me. To explain:

If she's giving me head, and as I start to lose my stuffing she pulls back and it gets on her face, neck, whatever - no problem. I'm happy I've done my magic, and the goods land where it does. However, if I'm having sex, my penis is presumably in a much better location than my hand, or her hand. As I understand the facial experience, it's usually some sort of controlled transition from having sex or a good old blowjob, to some sort of slight period of masturbation before deposited semen on her face. Why in the hell would I want to stop fucking her, so that I can start jacking off on her face? Hell no! I'll take another minute of actual fucking - you know, the stuff I can't do alone - over jacking off on someone's face. To me, that's like cooking a gourmet meal in my nice warm cozy house, and then stepping outside to eat it on a cold dirty porch. I just don't understand the allure of it - to me its superfluous at best, and ultimately inefficient. I don't mind a little deposit on ass, back or stomach/chest - but that's usually a question of pulling out and letting it go where it goes.

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abaya

Bees, welcome to TFP. I can already tell that you are going to be a great contributor. This is an awesome post.

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Bees

Thanks to abaya,
It's great to be here in a freewheeling forum like TFP. I'm glad you liked my post, abaya, because I read some of yours and they inspired me to write more openly than ever before.

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abaya

Wow... I'm glad to know that my posts have some use around here!! hehe. I should point out that the best part of your post was this line...
As "freewheeling" as this forum is, there aren't a lot of guys here who will agree with you about both people being willing to try something a little different than the mainstream, and how that experience can benefit a relationship. So I'm just always glad to hear positive stories about this kind of thing, and I look forward to hearing more of what you have to say!

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Blackthorn

In a past life I had a lover who would beg for it to be popped in her open mouth. That was hot the first time but after that I'd much rather explode in her mouth than around or over it ... it just feels better inside the mouth rather than by hand even if the wash is hitting her face.

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Shauk

I gave my ex facials on accident.

I'd just pull out and it'd shoot all the way up to her face. I was as astonished as she was honestly. (or hit the back of her ear if doing her from behind)

granted, it didn't happen that often but the few times that it did had me laughing pretty hard

ratbastid

Just be careful you don't kill her dog.

I think it's hot. I agree with those who have said it's great to have her ask or beg for it, that slays me.

Fortunately, the women in my life are generally tolerant of my various deviancies.

Seaver

Amen. I would MUCH rather cum inside her.

Whenever girls ask why we want to cum in their mouth, or why we care, I always ask the girls if they'd like us to go down on them until just before climax....and then switch to hands to finish her off. IT'S JUST NOT THE SAME.

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savmesom11

I subscribe to the "I will try anything once" book of life but facials are not even negotiable. You can splooge all over me but no where above the neck. I trust my man and love my man and all that jazz, to me it's unacceptable period.

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braisler

I'm a guy who is not a big fan of facials, in porn or RL. As some of the other posters have commented, there are better places for that penis to be. I'd rate coming in my wife's willing mouth 1000 times higher than coming all over her face.

Halx

I love watching facials in porn and I love giving them in real life, but I'm not particularly attached to them. Coming in all forms is fun.

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levite

I've been known to enjoy giving a facial from time to time, and most of the girls I've been with either haven't objected, or have actively enjoyed them. Maybe it's a little degrading, but I think it's probably "dirty in a good way." I once had a girlfriend who was occasionally seized by the fancy to send me out into the world with a little dab of her juices behind my ears and on my wrists: she said she was "marking her turf." I obliged happily: I don't know if it kept off other girls, but it usually kept me fairly distracted until the scent wore off. In any case, I figure that's kind of the same thing at work as men wanting to give facials, except men are less public about it (except when we post it on the internet, I guess).

I don't necessarily get the dudes for whom this is a major fetish, but from time to time, as part of the usual spectrum of a varied sex life? Why not?

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SecretMethod70

Indeed. Facials are great, and so are plenty of other things. Always good to have variety This is entirely true. Facials in and of themselves are fairly hot, but it's much better if she's the one asking for it...the dirtiest girls love cum

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Bees

I think that girlfriend had a great idea!

I love going to work with my mustasche full of my girlfriend's juices. That the perfect place to keep it to sniff, sniff, sniff all day.

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Kaimi

After reading this I had a vision of those handy disposable toilet seat covers at the public restrooms. I admit I chuckled a bit.

Personally, I would not mind it. The only real trouble that I have with it is getting it into my eye. If you have ever experienced that, you know that it is quite painful.