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Old 10-30-2007, 10:10 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Men: Are you "Good Will Humping?"

A funny little article from Claude Mills entitled "GOOD WILL HUMPING"

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I know a lot of people are going to hate me for writing this, but I am going to write it anyway. I am (drum roll please) a big fan of ugly women.

I like ugly girls. Hey, they’re people too. But I would like to clear up a few false rumors about them. A few years ago, Major Mackerel did a whole series of songs which revolved around the theme, the ‘uglier the girl, the tighter the hole’ that got major play in the dance hall. I would like to say this philosophy is not true. Some ugly girls, by virtue of their low self-esteem, literally give it away, sometimes they force it on to you, and being men, we take it, if it’s only to pad our numbers.

But it’s all good in the end. Ugly girls need love too. It’s an idea whose time has come round at last, one I like to call Goodwill Humping. Give that ugly wench ‘a charity screw’, it’s a sort of species of Noblesse Oblige. We owe it to these women. Why not give her a good roll in the hay, something to interrupt the tedium of her joyless, I-am-nobody ride to the grave? And I know that EVERY man has done it at least once, made love to an ugly-ass woman, and we should all ‘fess up. If not, then who is screwing all these ugly women? I don’t care who you are, every man must have made it with at least one truly ugly woman in his lifetime, or else he is not a real man.

I know what you’re thinking, all my esteem should go out the window with a comment like that, but strangely, that is not the case. I am just being honest. I am a man. Man is descended from an African carnivore, innately aggressive, inherently territorial and endlessly horny. This is what we do, and if you women sometimes wonder why your man would cheat on you with a skank who is ten times uglier than you, that’s the reason, we’re men. And if you listen to the barbershop gossips, the ‘naany is an ugly thing anyway, so what’s the diff?”.

Ugly chicks have game. They go all out, they strive to give full pleasure to their partners, they perfect the art of using their tongues, and they give selflessly, a single-minded determination to please you in every conceivable way. Not so with pretty girls. I have found that some pretty good-looking women actually think that it is a privilege for you to do the horizontal mambo with them. Years ago, I remember making love to a gorgeous girl who complained that I sweat too much. Frustrated, I got pissed and shouted: “If I didn’t sweat I’d die, bitch!”.

But it is not always magic. As I have grown older, and am no longer the horny young buck I once was, I have found it more, um, challenging to make it with ugly women. I once did the nasty with this awful looking chick, a real charity screw. I was horny, got my first ‘bruk’ as it were, and then, had to fake my second orgasm so I could get some sleep because I just wasn’t into her. The morning after I woke up to find this beast of Hades on the pillow beside me, pinning my left hand under her body. I was mortified. If I were a stronger man, I would have chewed off my arm to escape, but I had to wake her up and face her again. It was horrible and she wanted a ‘round three’ in the early morning’, I had to invent some flimsy excuse, and as soon as I could slink away from the room, and perform a savage act of self-flagellation (not self-fellatio, you slackers) on myself for having spent the night with her. You can only do it with truly gorgeous women in the morning. Otherwise, fuhgettaboutit!

In closing, I would like to say that everyone has their own curious little fantasies. Whatever floats your boat, go for it. One of my friends, let’s call him David, is a fat woman specialist. He is attracted to Goliaths, he occasionally goes for other women, but if it were up to him, it would be all Amazonian Goliaths all the time. He doesn’t care if they have beards, hare lips, crossed eyes, and hips so big she could haul grain to the market. He doesn’t care, and he attracts this kind of woman, you’d think he had a billboard running across his forehead that shouts ‘I Love Fat Women!”. He attracts them like priests attract drunks. That’s just the way it is.

It could be worse, he could be attracted to farm animals.
Obvious point: Ugly is subjective at best. I like nerdy girls, myself. Leave that Paris Hilton crap for others guys.

Underline was placed for emphasis. Rest of the article was posted for humor.

Show of hands... who is honest enough to admit this slice of reality?
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Old 10-30-2007, 10:26 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Nerdy chicks can be good looking, they only don't know how to 'use it'.

As for the concept. No, but the longer I'd go without the more willing I'd be and the lower my 'standards' would become when I was younger.

Now, no, I don't get that desperate, even if its been a while.
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Old 10-30-2007, 03:36 PM   #3 (permalink)
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No.

Apparently, I tend to have sex with women who come to me. That is my criteria for selection. Well, at least the beginning of it.
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Old 10-30-2007, 03:56 PM   #4 (permalink)
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I like nerdy girls too.

I'm not really sure what 'ugly means.'


I tend to only fuck 10s. At least five 2s.
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Old 10-30-2007, 05:34 PM   #5 (permalink)
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No, I'm not going to have sex with a woman that I think is physically ugly. I would go out with a woman that was considered a bit of a "plain Jane" or only average in looks. If she turns out to have a nice personality, I might consider a relationship with her. Looks are important, but personality is more important in my opinion.
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Old 10-30-2007, 05:46 PM   #6 (permalink)
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I honestly don't mind girl with a bit of weight, but the face needs to be nice looking
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Old 10-30-2007, 07:13 PM   #7 (permalink)
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First of all, Nerdy and ugly are not synonymous. Nerdy can be very sexy.

Secondly, I had sex with a girl whom I did not find attractive. I don't think many men would find her attractive. Her vag even had quite a rotten odor. After the act ended, I couldn't get away fast enough. That was the last of my ugly girl sex. No more for me.
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Old 10-30-2007, 07:25 PM   #8 (permalink)
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I know you all have banged some shovel-faced bimbos! FESS UP!
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Old 10-30-2007, 07:28 PM   #9 (permalink)
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OK, OK, I did, yes it's true. But I was in high school and the chick could deep throat.......

I remember some of my friends ragging on my about my "ugly" girlfriend. I could only smile to myself as I thought of what those poor bastards were missing out on.

Nowadays, if it weren't for the being married part, I wouldn't be afraid to ask a 5~6 out. Sexy beautiful is not the same as pretty beautiful. I'd rather be with someone compatible and have fun than worry about some trophy partner.
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Old 10-30-2007, 07:32 PM   #10 (permalink)
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Thanks, man. Everybody has done it. Some of us admit it freely.

Deep throat is proof that god loves us and wants us to be happy.
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Old 10-30-2007, 07:56 PM   #11 (permalink)
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I honestly don't mind girl with a bit of weight, but the face needs to be nice looking
Not if you hit it from behind.
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Old 10-30-2007, 08:10 PM   #12 (permalink)
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I'm sorry to girls out there with self-esteem issues. I know I'm the reason. And I don't really care.
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Old 10-30-2007, 08:19 PM   #13 (permalink)
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You can only do it with truly gorgeous women in the morning. Otherwise, fuhgettaboutit!
Does this mean that having had morning sex on numerous occasions I am most definitely not an ugly chick then?

I've only ever had a relationship with one guy I wasn't attracted to visually (I don't do one night stands so no real charity screws) and even then the fact that his kisses tasted like a mixture of vanilla, nutmeg and cinnamon kinda made up for it. Gods above he was addictive.
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Old 10-30-2007, 08:55 PM   #14 (permalink)
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Hey King... that's the kind of honestly I love around here!

As for the OP, I'd say "it's possible". I like "nerdy" girls as well. I also have a skewed view of beauty and prefer cute to sexy, or rather find cute sexier than supermodel looks. Some of the girls I find very attractive, I find them so for very specific reasons.
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Old 10-30-2007, 09:48 PM   #15 (permalink)
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I am just like WK. I fuck 9s and 10s exclusively.

One time in my life I banged a girl that wasn't 'ugly' but wasn't super hot either, and it seemed not worth my time. I got rid of it pretty soon after that.

That makes me an asshole to most people, but hey... assholes are the ones who get the fucking hot ones so it works pretty damn nicely.



But I'm glad whoever wrote that article is taking the heat off me. Someones gotta bang the ugly wimminz. Somehow some of the ugly dudes get hot bitches, but rarely does a hot girl get a hot dude. So there is a disproportionate amount of ugly women wanting to bang and less ugly dudes to keep the social ladder together correctly.
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Old 10-30-2007, 10:54 PM   #16 (permalink)
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There's no accounting for taste. Some guys like girls with a bit of meat on their bones, some guys like the Paris aesthetic. Dark skin, light skin, glasses, whatever makes you happy.

I may be the only guy in the world who does not rate women on a scale of one to ten. Instead, my rating system is decidedly simpler; I'd sleep with her or I wouldn't. Every girl falls into one of the two categories. Back in my.. eh.. less scrupulous days, more tended to fall into the former. Now it tends to go the other way, as I've learned that looks aren't all there is to the equation.

I have noticed that the girls I end up with tend to be the ones that get a lot of male attention, so that probably means they rate pretty high. And then there was the one who was a ten (even I had that pegged)... and bi-sexual... and had a pierced tongue...

What was I talking about?
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Old 10-30-2007, 10:56 PM   #17 (permalink)
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You must not be familiar with the advanced rating system Martian. Any 10 with pierced tongue and bi-sexual is no longer judged on the standard system.

She moves to the advanced, which only consists of 11, 12 and 20.

I think you banged an 11 or 12 (20 is reserved for the best fuck of your entire life, you can only score someone a 20 on your deathbed or minutes before a fatal accident... thus the relative rarity of the score being given out)
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Old 10-31-2007, 02:51 AM   #18 (permalink)
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This thread is inane.
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Old 10-31-2007, 02:56 AM   #19 (permalink)
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Hey, I thought this was a men-only thread....
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Old 10-31-2007, 04:00 AM   #20 (permalink)
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You must not be familiar with the advanced rating system Martian. Any 10 with pierced tongue and bi-sexual is no longer judged on the standard system.

She moves to the advanced, which only consists of 11, 12 and 20.

I think you banged an 11 or 12 (20 is reserved for the best fuck of your entire life, you can only score someone a 20 on your deathbed or minutes before a fatal accident... thus the relative rarity of the score being given out)
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Well then, i'm guessing i'm one of those rare 20's...I feel I'm a 10, and although i don't have a pierced tongue, i can deepthroat and i have quite a long tongue that can do a wave motion (lots of practice) and although i'm not bi-sexual...i would absolutely love to have sex with a woman aka "I want to have a threesome"

and healer's not even on his deathbed

And it may seem I'm tooting my own horn a little here, i feel that i kinda need to in this particular thread.



sorry for the threadjack.

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Old 10-31-2007, 04:33 AM   #21 (permalink)
 
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This thread is inane.
I'd go so far as to say it's an embarrassment to the TFP.

But hey, unless I'm at *least* a "5-6," (god forbid) I'm sure it doesn't matter what I think.

And now, feel free to respond with as many "Heyyyy, we're just joking, lighten up..." comments as you want. It won't work.

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And it may seem I'm tooting my own horn a little here, i feel that i kinda need to in this particular thread.
Mandy, you should never feel you have to toot your own horn like that here, if this place is really what it purports to be. But apparently "evolution" means being allowed to act like neanderthals.
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Old 10-31-2007, 04:50 AM   #22 (permalink)
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BTW: Mandy, you should never feel you have to toot your own horn like that here, if this place is really what it purports to be. But apparently "evolution" means being allowed to act like neanderthals.

This statement may or may not be applicable to this thread: There are very few truly ugly women in the world. However, there are very many truly shallow men.
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Old 10-31-2007, 05:57 AM   #23 (permalink)
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This thread is inane.
I agree. It's really shallow to consider only her facial features...I mean, after all, she could have a really hot bod!
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Old 10-31-2007, 06:07 AM   #24 (permalink)
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But apparently "evolution" means being allowed to act like neanderthals.
Welcome to the TFP equivalent of an evolutionary dead end. Just like the neanderthals.

Perhaps this thread should be merged with the "Dumb People" thread.
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Old 10-31-2007, 06:27 AM   #25 (permalink)
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I think this thread should be merged with the garbage can, myself. Free speech is all and good, but this is just one race dumping on another and basing our actions on their looks, something that they can't control. BTW, I've seen more really beautiful women with really ugly guys, which gives credence to the theory that women are a lot less shallow then men.
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Old 10-31-2007, 06:38 AM   #26 (permalink)
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Yeah, this is more of a Fark thread than a TFP one.
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Old 10-31-2007, 06:50 AM   #27 (permalink)
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If this thread is offending anyone or violating the rules... it should be taken down by the mods.
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Old 10-31-2007, 06:55 AM   #28 (permalink)
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Uh, it's not violating any rules, dude...it's just stupid.

Unfortunately that is not against the rules.
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Old 10-31-2007, 07:06 AM   #29 (permalink)
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I think this thread should be merged with the garbage can, myself. Free speech is all and good, but this is just one race dumping on another and basing our actions on their looks, something that they can't control. BTW, I've seen more really beautiful women with really ugly guys, which gives credence to the theory that women are a lot less shallow then men.
Bullshit.

It gives credence that women look for different things in males than males do in females.

I very rarely see a ugly rich man with an ugly woman, I doubt its because she was 'less shallow'.

Women are no different than men in this kind of thing.

Hell I really really love my wife. Shes everything to me. Yet I still want her to be attractive to me, and if she were to let herself go, I'd be very upset and if it was bad enough and she didn't care, it would be a great strain on our relationship.

Shes also a stay at home mom, watching the kids that sort of thing. If I said 'honey why don't you go back to work and I'll be the stay at home dad' I'm sure that would upset her greatly. Maybe it wouldn't lead to a divorce, maybe it would, but it would strain our relationship.

Are we shallow? I don't think so. We were attracted to each other for multiple reasons in order to live our lives happily together. For me looks were high on that list, her her it was my confidence, (it wasn't money I didn't have any) and how I made her feel.

The article was mean spirited. What it didn't mention was normally guys who act/do this are NOT very attractive themselves. Its a way they justify their own lousy sex lives. Its like Quazimoto talking about how he banged the ugly chick. Sure 'preying' on someone with low self esteem is easier, but its a case of the pot calling the kettle black.
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Old 10-31-2007, 07:54 AM   #30 (permalink)
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Ugly is subjective at best. I like nerdy girls, myself. Leave that Paris Hilton crap for others guys.
Beauty...or ugly, if you prefer...I think, is more arbitrary than subjective. I, myself, tend to be more attracted by a more unconventional beauty. You mentioned Paris Hilton. Frankly, I don't really find Ms Hilton to be all that attractive, physically. I'd take a Janeane Garofalo over a Paris Hilton any day of the week.


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But hey, unless I'm at *least* a "5-6," (god forbid) I'm sure it doesn't matter what I think.
Earlier, I alluded to an attraction to Janeane Garofalo. Somewhere, on these boards, is a picture of you as a dead ringer for Ms Garofalo.
That's hot.
And it does, by the way, matter what you think. Regardless of where you happen to fall on my, or anyone elses "attractive scale".
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Old 10-31-2007, 08:18 AM   #32 (permalink)
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Old 10-31-2007, 08:23 AM   #33 (permalink)
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Well then, i'm guessing i'm one of those rare 20's...I feel I'm a 10, and although i don't have a pierced tongue, i can deepthroat and i have quite a long tongue that can do a wave motion (lots of practice) and although i'm not bi-sexual...i would absolutely love to have sex with a woman aka "I want to have a threesome"

and healer's not even on his deathbed

And it may seem I'm tooting my own horn a little here, i feel that i kinda need to in this particular thread.



sorry for the threadjack.

/end threadjack

Hmm deepthroat, wants a threesome... I've seen your pictures... Well I'd say at the least an 11. I'm also not on my deathbed so my god given right to give a 20 has not yet been achieved!



(Offtopic: If you don't like the thread gtfo of it people, you dont have to post in every thread on the board. Especially when you obviously have nothing to add to the conversation except try to pretend you are morally superior to the people chatting)
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Old 10-31-2007, 08:28 AM   #34 (permalink)
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I don't post in every thread on the board. I'm voicing my opinion on the topic at hand. You don't like it? GTFO, dude.

And I love it when people go traipsing off on the 'you think you're morally superior' trailway because someone disagrees with them. No, dude, I'm disagreeing because I think this thread is stupid...has nothing to do with morality.
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Old 10-31-2007, 08:30 AM   #35 (permalink)
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I really cannot put into words at the moment how pissed off this thread makes me

besides ugly is in the eye of the beholder....

I've found that guys that think this way do not possess the personality that I require from a partner so I guess Im not really missing out, because personality wins over looks ANY day for me....but what do I know...Im not all that attractive AND Im fat

guess thats why Im damn good in bed huh?
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Old 10-31-2007, 08:35 AM   #36 (permalink)
 
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Earlier, I alluded to an attraction to Janeane Garofalo. Somewhere, on these boards, is a picture of you as a dead ringer for Ms Garofalo.
That's hot.
And it does, by the way, matter what you think. Regardless of where you happen to fall on my, or anyone elses "attractive scale".
Thanks for the kind words, BOR... but that line you quoted from me was actually written with sarcasm, not a desire for validation. I wrote it to point out the asininity of what several people were saying here.

I'm glad to see some of the TFP men standing up and making sure that their silence doesn't ensure their complicity with these kinds of attitudes.
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I don't post in every thread on the board. I'm voicing my opinion on the topic at hand. You don't like it? GTFO, dude.

And I love it when people go traipsing off on the 'you think you're morally superior' trailway because someone disagrees with them. No, dude, I'm disagreeing because I think this thread is stupid...has nothing to do with morality.
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btw if you've seen me around here and there, my POV is often times different than many of the other TFP people. Usually its well thought out and they will argue it with me (of course I'm hardheaded so sometimes it takes a few times =0)

but this neanderthal talk, stupidity talk, is just uncalled for acting like people are better.
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Old 10-31-2007, 08:41 AM   #38 (permalink)
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when i first saw this thread i wonder how it would take until someone posted in anger, resentment...whatever you want to call it.


i don't understand if you don't like the thread don't read it or post in it. if the mods have not removed it i don't see what the big deal is.
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Old 10-31-2007, 08:41 AM   #39 (permalink)
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I really don't have any strong feelings one way or the other about this thread. I've had physical relationships with plenty of women, some of which had many wonderful features excluding great beauty.

The OP is a sort of cruel way to say something nice: looks aren't everything. Many, many, many women (or for the ladies, many men) who may not be very attractive can be wonderful and fascinating people that can brighten your life and earn your affection, be it emotional or physical, without having to be traditionally beautiful. That's it. Yes, it was said in a Sam Kinison manner, but so what?
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Old 10-31-2007, 08:44 AM   #40 (permalink)
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(Offtopic: If you don't like the thread gtfo of it people, you dont have to post in every thread on the board. Especially when you obviously have nothing to add to the conversation except try to pretend you are morally superior to the people chatting)
So what you're saying is that you only want to hear from people who agree with you? I really don't see any other way to take that kind of statement. If this were a thread about why sticking beans up one's nose and waiting for them to sprout was a fantastic idea, I'd chime in that the thread was a waste of time and space, just like I've done in this one.

As MM has already pointed out, there's not rule against being dense on this board. I don't see much difference between my hypothetical thread and this one.

I'm not here to agree with everyone, and I don't see any problem with saying that a thread is dumb. Some of them are - the hand thread yesterday was a great example. No one has said anything personally offensive about anyone else in this thread, and that's the Back Button Test. Having a differing opinion, and sharing it is encouraged.
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