bloody_rose20

Okay, so here is my problem: My man doesn't stay too long down at my pussy lips to lick and suck around when we are having some fun because he says he does not like the smell of it. I know there is nothing going on down there that is different because he has always had this issue. Now, we both were virgins when we got together, so neither of us know if this is normal. I mean, I know it smells when I get wet, but the smell is kind of like B.O. sometimes.

The thing is, I am not a dirty person, I shower every day just like everyone else, but I do know that I have always had this problem growing up. If I would masturbate at night and then clean up, all day the next day I would still be wet and sometimes practically dripping from my cooch. I don't know if anyone else ever could smell it, but I could. And now, even after sex I clean up really well, but I know in about half an hour I will be dripping with my fluids.

Even more embarassingly, my mom used to tell me to not run around in my bathing suit when I was in 5th grade even because it smelled weird down there, and just having my legs open on a warm day, you could smell a weird smell just being near me. Its not that bad anymore to where people can smell it on me when its a normal day, but I do sometimes get like that for no reason.

I never understood it and this is so frustrating becuase he cannot please me down there and I am not about to make him do that either, because I don't blame him. Can anyone give insight to what this is or have been where I am?

--Also, to answer a question I know you all will ask, the color of the secreations are always white or clear. So its never anything off with that. And, to make sure I knew what it was like, I did taste myself to see if he was lying about me tasting bad. I thought it wasn't bad, but to me it tasted sour--is that normal too?

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Plan9

Well, it isn't ever going to smell like one of those little car freshener trees.

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I've been around a few labia in my day... and they all taste / smell different. Some are spicy, some are mild, some are like sucking on a few Rolaids.

It varies with diet, age, exercise, hormones, hygiene habits, etc. Some girls were real strong in the odor department, some were nearly-not-there.

Really hard to do a fair comparison. I'd ask for a sample, but... yeah, kinda rude.

Pussy is an acquired taste.

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Then again... if your mom said something about it when you're a kid? You need a girl to answer this. Outta my league.

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Titan_Uranus

It's the same with blowjobs ,either you love it or you don't ,but like Crompsin said it is an aquired taste, and bloody_rose 20 it's not you ,going down is probably not his thing.

I can go down on my wife like forever ,and she loves it but when it comes to go old fellatio she's down there for like 30 seconds ,I don't even get really get into it and it's over .

bloody_rose20

Huh. Well it just sucks then lol becuase I would like a little more love down their from him, but thats not gonna happen too much because of my issue. Thanks for all the advice :-)

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pig

bloody_rose: couple of things, quick questions, etc.

1. is your mom fully or moderately insane? i ask this because it seems borderline obsessive / fucking-nuts for a woman to tell her daughter to close her legs because she can smell her snatch.

for most people.

so if she really could smell your funk, and its over and above anything that she imagined, then this sounds like one for the gynocologist.

2. i'm wondering if your smell isn't completely normal, but your mom / family helped instill a psychological hangup about vaginal odor in you, which is reinforced because your boyfriend doesn't like a little old fashioned box chowder.

3. if you have visited a ob/gyn, and have found that you are not the fabled fountain of evergiving vaginal funk, then i'd suggest your man work on embracing the smell and taste of pussy. yes, it might be a little different from a hamburger, but making you squirm around and gasp should be somewhat worth it. i personally love the test and smell of a ladies' netherregions, so i can't really relate to your man's perspective. some sourness sounds completely normal. additionally, your junk is meant to be somewhat moist...its an open hole in the middle of your pelvis that self-lubricates. unless you have to wring out your panties every half hour or so, i'd say nothing unusual about some moisture, sweat, etc accumulating during the day.

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james t kirk

I've put my face up to more than a few women's sexy bits. I adore giving head to a woman and there is almost always some sort of scent from very very mild, to musky, to overpowering.

I can remember a few women who were downright nasty in that department. One I dated for a while was so nasty that she'd be laying on the bed with her legs spread and I'd come into the bedroom and I could smell her from the door. Seriously. It was plain old stink ass as far as I was concerned and was the main reason that I dumped her. (This is no joke.)

Other women I know are blessed with a very sexy smelling pussy. You could go out for a 5 mile hike, take her home to the bedroom and pull her pants off and it smelled perfect without so much as a wash.

I'm going to ask a stupid question, but can't you put a hand down there and take a whiff for yourself and see?

The other issue frankly is if you have a bowel movement, then don't think that just because you wipe properly with TP that your butt's going to be clean. Unlesss you get a clean break, it's never going to be clean. A shower when you have the chance is in order, or better yet, a bidet in your bathroom.

The other issue may simply be that he is very inexperienced and may just think that going down on a woman is dirty and stinky and he can't handle it. Not every guy wants to go downtown and they never change, or it's forced and they are terrible at it. It could be him.

Lastly, there are some medical issues that can cause odour and such. I'm definitely not an expert there, but I would think that a quick google search would yield and abundance of information to that effect.

Plan9

"Fountain of Evergiving Vaginal Funk..."

GAHH!

(laughs, chokes, cackles, chokes, calls EMS)

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ngdawg

Diet can affect it somewhat. Try eating somewhat sweeter foods and more carbs-the reason might not be appealing: Our digestive system turns all carbs to 'sugar'-this sugar feeds the bacteria in the digestive system, in particular, the colon, and that bacteria, in turn, causes 'yeast'. Now, an overabundance of carbs can nurture a yeast infection, but a balance of carbs can help digestion. Make sense? I was actually instructed by a specialist gyno on just the opposite due to chronic yeast infections-had to stay away from all sugars, carbs, processed, canned or bottled foods and dressings, etc.
Another thing you could try is keeping the pubic hair cut close to the skin or shaved completely. Being shaved greatly has reduced the body odor, there's no..uh...lint or residue from bathroom tissue, either. And wear only cotton or cotton lined undies. Stay completely away from synthetic cloth. Go to bed with no undies on, ever.
You might even be able to have a body Ph level test.Ph level strips
You shouldn't taste sour-it should be sweet/salty and not strong.

ASU2003

I can't see how it could be that bad.

But, have you tried taking a shower before having sex? Or have you had oral sex while in the shower?

I might get lambasted by the ladies about yeast infections and whatnot, but has he tried eating Altoids or some breath mint while going down? Have you tried flovored lubricants? http://www.condom.com/oralsex-flavoredlubes.html

The other thing is maybe he doesn't know how to do it right? Or is afraid that you think that he doesn't do a good job. Or if there is a lot of hair down there, it isn't as easy.

I don't know if it works or not, but maybe by changing your diet or by drinking more water, you could change the taste?

JustJess

NG and pig are most spot on (in my opinion) about how to handle this. If you're big into garlicky foods and such, it's going to affect everything, including vaginal secretions. Inexperience is also a bigger factor than you realize - frankly, cooters take some getting used to. The first time I saw one that wasn't mine, it looked like some kind of alien life form. It's difficult to get used to all that wet stuff in your face, too. So give yourselves some time with this! Try some purely exploratory days, where you're just looking and inspecting every square mm of each other. That can help, and it's fun.

As far as cleanliness, kirk might have a point. Closer shaved (you can get a cooter trimmer with an attachment to trim the hair, it's pretty cool) is easier to manage, and since bidets aren't possible for most of us, consider those cottonelle wipes - very handy and I sure feel better using those than plain paper.

Most of all, you just get used to each other. Remember, when you first started dating, I bet bad breath was noticeable on him once in a while, right? At least in the morning? And now, well, even morning breath isn't bad, it's just the way he is. It's gotten to the point where I kinda *like* Q's morning breath. Cooters are the same way. Familiarity breeds affection in this case.

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bloody_rose20

Okay, well, to answer some things:

I do already shave close to the skin and make sure there is not much hair because I know even with me licking my mans balls when they were hairy was a bit of a challenge. So we both shave now.

I do clean down there plenty.

Yes, my mom is a psychopath lol but back then it was pretty noticable to smell it back then.

My gyno never has said anything about my smell when being down there.

My booty, I can tell you is VERY clean all the time becuase my man is an assman lol so no worries about that one :-)

So yeah. I know he is not much of a vaginal lover, but I mean, I give him blowjobs, which are fun for me to do, but even to me his cum does not taste or smell good to me. But I got used to it. So would you all reccommend that I just change my diet a little like mentioned and tell him to get used to it at least for me?

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JustJess

I'd say yes, to both of your questions. Try changing the diet a bit (similar to how pineapple is supposed to sweeten the taste of semen) and he needs to try manning up, as it were. You could always give him a taste of his own semen, that might make it clear to him that these things are an acquired taste! Otherwise, it doesn't sound like there's anything else that you are missing. There are flavored lubes too, but personally, I find them sticky and you can only do that when you have plenty of time to clean up/shower afterwards.

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oddtrend

I had a buddy in Louisiana who was convinced he could make his man juice sweeter by eating sweet fruit at least once a day. His wife swears by it so perhaps thats something to keep in mind. He could alson get used to it I'm sure, I know that with me, like many others it's something I had to get used to, now I look forwrd to it. Maybe it'll be the same with him either way good luck

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xxxafterglow

Nah Rose, your guy just needs to get used to it!!!

You don't have any probs with your hygiene.

But Kirk's right - the best indicator is to smell yourself. If you smell like you always have, there's no problem.

You can try having oral sex in the shower like Asu suggested. Don't use any breath mints with sugar because that can give you a yeast infection (and THAT is NO FUN AT ALL).

No offense, virgins can be really silly about this sort of thing sometimes. PUSSY IS NOT GOING TO TASTE LIKE VANILLA ICE CREAM!!!! Maybe it would help to introduce your dude to a little snatch-snacking porn so he can see that lots of people eat pussy, the smell/taste is really not that bad (does he expect you to spit/swallow? or give rim jobs?), and it's more about getting pleasure from GIVING pleasure.

He can get over it, there's nothing wrong with your body. I also recommend a dental dam (latex sheets that are usually flavored and can be used as a barrier during oral sex - you'll still feel plenty and he can lick grapey rubber).

Best of luck!

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There are flavored, water-based lubes that are advertised as being OK to lick and stuff. That might help him.

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Ourcrazymodern?

Every body smells different.
It's part of the reason we feel that way.
I'd like a taste.

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rr1024

One thing that can be a problem is vagninosus not spelled correctly.
Usually cause by excessive blood during flows visit and or having blood vessels too close the surface of uterus. What happens, the excessive blood causes a bacteria to grow and the other the bacteria flurishes because of a very slow constant supply.

In either case as a woman you will NOT notice the oder, it's kind of like smelling your own B.O. or your own bad breath. To you it's not that bad because your used to it, but to everyone else it's sucks bad...laughing.

The worst part if you go to a female doctor and she has the same issue, then she will not notice at all...lol....

You can test this by using a douche and have him go down on you...If he stays longer than normal then there maybe an issue that can be solved....

I've gone down on many women, yes I'm bi, and if everything is ok down there then there is no real smell until they get excited from g-spot or cum.

I went through 2 very fast relationships prior to my current boy friend and the breakups, thinking back, seem to revolve around sex although they did not come out and say it. My current boy friend brought it up the first time we had sex and it took me three doctors to finally figure out the problem. The first couple of doctors all female said there was nothing wrong and the bf and I had a few arguements when I would tell him what the doctor said...LOL...his come back was I know my pussy find another doctor.

all in all, once the issue was discovered and solved there hasn't been any problems and he is more than happy now...;-)
It really has nothing to do with hygiene

Also if you think about this it is no different than the children who have blood vessels that are too close to the surface of the inside of their nose only this is in your uterus which is always warm and moist perfect for bacterial issues

ASU2003

rr1024, So what did you have to do to fix it?

snowy

rr1024, you're talking about bacterial vaginosis.

BV gives off a distinctly fishy odor. If your snatch smells like fish, you should probably see a doctor.

And douching is ALWAYS a bad call. Don't do it. Especially if you have BV. You're just going to force the bacteria up into places they don't belong.

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Jenna

Most of the others are right on. I used to be a little embarressed about my smells down there, but I've come to find them sexy. I love the way vaginas smell and taste!

Through sex, and giving my boyfriend oral sex right after being in my vagina, I've come to find that mine is almost acidic tasting. Which was new to me, but it's not bad, just different.

I'm lucky, because my guy absolutely loves going down on me. But it sounds to me like your guy may be using this as an excuse not to do it? I'd ask him for a few more details, maybe you'll find out something else. It could be that he doesn't like other aspects of it, and saying that he doesn't like your smell could be an easy way out.

And I agree with Pig, your mom sounds very odd and you're probably overreacting because this has been drilled into your mind.

If anything, go to the gyno and check for BV. But if this has been happening since you were a child, then I highly doubt it's the problem, and there's probably no real problem.

rr1024

Well being old enough I had my uterus corterized and of course my problem was both excessive bleeding during flow and I has too many veins near the surface, which made it constant issue. I never knew until my boyfiend said something.


onesnowyowl

You may want to actually talk to a real doctor before making statements like "douching is ALWAYS a bad call" this is an old wives tail. In fact douching as prescribed will kill most if not all bateria's, the problem there is it usually kills the GOOD and BAD. If there is an inbalance then the "badteria" (my quote) can take over again....
Now of couse if you have a problem anyway then there is no difference other than you get a day or two of relief and of course you should be heading to a doctor.

Now if you have an specific types of STD's that is when you should avoid everthing including douchs

Grasshopper Green

Regarding douching:

http://womenshealth.about.com/cs/azh...agdouching.htm
http://www.4women.gov/FAQ/douching.htm
http://www.medicinenet.com/script/ma...ticlekey=18369
http://www.ilmaternal.org/SafeMother...oDouching1.htm
http://healthresources.caremark.com/topic/douching
http://healthcenter.indiana.edu/hw/douching.shtml
http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/490338

This is a small sampling of articles regarding the risks associated with douching.

Unless your doctor SPECIFICALLY states you should douche...douching is a bad idea. I've spoken to my doctor about it and she told me NOT to douche.

As far as smell is concerned, all women smell down there. ALL of us. It is normal, and unless you have an infection, very natural. If I were you, I would rule any infections out by seeing a doctor, then explain to your boyfriend that oral sex is something you enjoy and would like for him to do with you. Good sex requires communication, and unless you explain your feelings to him, he'll never know how much this means to you. Good luck.

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Datalife2

hmm.. sounds like he just doesnt want to stay down long. I myself would keep going until I here her say "put it in" meaning my knob. lol

I just love and am fasinated by a vagina.

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bloody_rose20

Well thank you all again. I know definately that I do not smell like fish down there lol even I know and my man knows that if it smells fishy, its doctor time. And, I think, he is not really used to it becuase I have never really made him stay down there long anyways before (we have been together 3 years) so its probably just new to him. I asked him again about what I taste like, and he says I taste kind of like onions. Now to some people that might not bother them, but my man doesn't like onions lol. His mom has even said (in normal convos) that he always wouldn't eat onions in food, he would pick them out because he didn't like the taste. lol. But I even told him that I do not have issues down there and that I got some advice for him to get over it haha! But, I did try the fruit thing, with eating pineapple, and that night he woke me up by giving me oral! I even caught him licking his fingers after fingering me...so maybe it worked? I asked him if it tasted any different, but he was too sleepy to remember lol. I'm thinking so, therefore, later tonight I am buying a pineapple, and he is eating some lol!

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rr1024

Actually you are incorrect, in fact if you do "SMELL" then more than likely you have an issue of some sort, mild to wild. See your article http://healthcenter.indiana.edu/hw/douching.shtml

I've talked with several doctors and yes they advise against it but not for the reasons you stated or stated in the articles.

The reason is because it kills everything, good and bad. If you ask your doc simple questions you will get simple answers.

bloody_rose20

I will not duche because I have had bad experiences with that. It dried me out and I ended up with bad migranes. When I told the docters that I simply duched, nothing more, they told me right off to never use a duche. So I dunno. My preference seeing my experience, I neevr plan to use a duche. Also, I noticed now its only 'oniony' when he gets me all riled up and excited, so I am guessing thats my normal smell. Thank you all again.

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Cardinalduke

I have experimented getting used to a smell that wasn't good.

For smell, I find the actual soap used tends to make a huge difference. I actually prefer she was the outer area with a feminine shaving gel of some kind. A few soaps she tried really made it that much worse. I also find that having some intercourse before showering and shaving helps. Its gets the juices flowing after about 10-20 minutes of sex. After showering and calming down there tends to be less odor causing wetness I find.

Also cunnilingus position matters when you deal with taste. A woman on top 69 type position tends to work better if a girl is really salty b/c the salt tends to hit the roof of the mouth. Normal "missionary" cunnilingus has the fluid hitting the floor of the mouth a lot. So you can try a couple positions and find which is better. Also, watch out about having a man orgasm inside you. His stuff and his actual sweat from intercourse can make the area smell worse too. With most girls, even if they don't smell great, you can get the right soap, a good shave and appropriate drying method right out of the shower to get to something pretty neutral.

If you don't hate the way it feels you can even throw in a tampon beforehand to keep it less wet. I have even used a towel on my girl before b/c she is so thick and wet that she gets to where she can't feel the sensations right if I don't dry her off ever so often.

Jenna

You're actually not supposed to use any type of soap to wash your vagina. You vagina is lined with mucous membrane, it would be like washing your nose or eyes with soap. It can be painful and unneccessary.

As for your labia, I believe you're not supposed to use any fragranced soap. Although many people use fragranced soaps, and they have no problems.

Jenna

You're actually not supposed to use any type of soap to wash your vagina. You vagina is lined with mucous membrane, it would be like washing your nose or eyes with soap. It can be painful and unneccessary.

As for your labia, I believe you're not supposed to use any fragranced soap. Although many people use fragranced soaps, and they have no problems.

highthief

I know from my own experience that women who I've been with who have been on the pill have a different taste/smell than women not on the pill. No pill has, for me, tended to taste/smell better.

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Cardinalduke

Sorry. Didn't make myself clear. I didn't mean inside the actual vagina. I was referring to the labia and the skin surrounding it out to the inner thighs.

Martian

I'll admit to having not read the entire thread here. In regards to the specific problem, if you're concerned about it, you might try actually mentioning it to your crotch doctor and see what comes up.

I also find myself wondering at all these 'tell him to get used to it.' If the gender roles were reversed (ie, a woman who didn't like the smells/tastes associated with her man's crotchbat) and the guys were doling out that advice, what would the reaction be?

Me, I say that if he doesn't like it you should learn to live without it instead of trying to force him. Sex is not equal exchange and you should go down on him because you want to, not because you expect him to return the favour. There's plenty of other ways for him to get you off.

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Some don't care for the musky skunky.

Some do.

I know this might sound a bit silly, but if your nose is plugged you cannot taste or smell.

Ideas?