Lizra

"flaps" (I like the word lips better) are nice! The are soft and silky, get engourged and swollen when a woman is aroused, they get wet....a soft, sensitive, silky, moist entrance.....total goodness!
They feel lots of sensation too......just a skinny naked slit seems rather boring, and underage. Viva the Vulva!

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analog

The ignorance of the opinion expressed is really driven home by the ignorant quality of the way it's expressed.

Grow up.

That is all.

MexicanOnABike

before this thread, i had no idea there was a difference. a pussy is a pussy... if it's clean, then i'm happy.

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World's King

Exactly.




Although I have seen maybe three in my day that I didn't really understand what was going on.

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lurkette

See, this here is what gets me...

Somehow, some group of people have perpetrated the rather arbitrary myth that inner labia are "supposed" to look a certain way. (That this new standard lines up with how a pre-pubescent girl's vagina looks is more than a little creepy and insidious, IMHO.) This myth has caught on so much that women are insecure enough (about a piece of anatomy that few people ever see, btw) to get SURGERY! Go under the knife, full anesthetic and all the risks that entails. We have bought into this myth so entirely that we are willing to CUT OURSELVES IN A VERY DELICATE PLACE to achieve some standard that until recently didn't exist, and has no basis in anything other than a rather arbitrary aesthetic preference. It's becoming a codified standard and, IMHO, dangerous to women's health and self-esteem. Don't buy into it! And certainly don't spend your money paying to go under the knife to "fix" something that's not wrong.

Pussy comes in all shapes and sizes. http://1001vaginas.com/ See? There's really no such thing as "normal."

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ratbastid

Breaking news from the world of pussy: Rumor is that Jenna Jameson, probably the worlds best-known porn star, is holed up and not speaking to anyone after getting a vaginoplasty that she's not happy with.

http://www.nydailynews.com/gossip/r_...ive_to_mu.html (second item)

So... here's a woman whose intimate anatomy has been on general display for the last (according to Google) 14 years. Yet she's still prey to this insane self-consciousness. Enough so that she would get surgery, and then be upset enough with the results to be skipping meetings, photo shoots, and public appearances.

Of course, Jenna's just this side of Michael Jackson these days. She was so much better looking before she first went under the knife. I guess it doesn't surprise me too much she'd get adjusted below the equator. Still, it's sad.

I have enough first-hand (*koff*) experience with vaginas to know that they're all different, and they're all beautiful.

Dilbert1234567

You’ve got to remember that her pussy is her livelihood, just like actors and actresses rely on there looks and get plastic surgery to help them. she is changing to meet the demands of the market place, it saddens me, but i do understand it.

i did not see any sideways pussies in here

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Rinndalir

Agreed. I can see debating bald vs trimmed vs natural, but this? Come on.

The_Jazz

To quote someone much funnier than me:

From here:

http://www.tfproject.org/tfp/showthread.php?t=2798

Sorry, it had to be done.

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Dilbert1234567

there is nothing wrong with debating personal preference, the issue here is the disregard for respect.

i love lovely long lushes labia lips.

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Leto

yep, sign me up too....

Dilbert1234567

*Snickers*

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lurkette

Where's photoshop when you need it?

I said "all shapes and sizes", not all orientations

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cadre

I don't think it's a big issue for most people, at least most people I've been with haven't even noticed it but for some people it is a big deal and it does effect their self esteem. (Not that it effects mine but I know it does for some people).

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ngdawg

Another interesting site for the curious: http://www.bettydodson.com/subsex41genart.htm
'nuff said

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Lurkette! I'm shocked at you! You don't support lesbian cooters or bisexual cooters?

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Lizra

Oh god! Betty Dodson.....That brings back memories of youth! I remember sending away for a pamphlet of hers when I was 18 or something....saw it in the back of Viva! magazine. All these different styles of vaginas she had drawn.
I got it, looked at it, and then thought...."Why'd the hell I send away for this?!" (then I figured maybe it was a lesbian thing.....? )Yeah, everybody is a little different, what a surprise.

Different styles of penises would have been more interesting....plaster casters anyone?.....

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In praise of large labia: http://www.sexylabia.com/table_of_contents.htm

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surferlove007

I realize you're entitled to your opinion but it is quite rude to state that you like it "clean and streamlined" as some women like myself have insecurities in that area and then seeing statements like that does not help in the least.

And another thing


Let me tell you, if I were to ever meet you I'd punch you in the face until my wrist and hands were bleeding. Your childish words are from a person who does not need to reproduce and spread your stupidity around the world. You're the kind of person that has made ME feel insecure and not good enough for what society supposedly expects. Only this year have I finally started to feel "alright" about my intimate anatomy and then I read comments like that and it pisses me off to no end. You don't know what it's like to be criticized by someone involving the most intimate parts of your body and the humiliation associated with it. So how about you feel humiliated for your post and lack of a fully functioning brain.

Rant over.

skier

I find it interesting that in our culture, the way we mock the "incorrect" size/shape of a woman's labia makes a negative statement on how sexually active she is, (or perhaps it's a deeper implication that she enjoys sex too much) while we make fun males in the direct opposite way for the size of a male's penis; ie. he is unable to satisfy a woman.

There has been a recent upsurge in cosmetic surgeries for women in the attempt to look more virginal or pure. Is this a sign that gender roles are becoming more polarized? Or that we as a people are more vain/shallow, selfconcious?

Or is the upswing a result of greater confidence in the medical profession?

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Borla

When you love someone, you love the parts about them that make them unique, or the parts of them that they only share with you.

IMO, people who focus too intently on one tiny physical characteristic are focusing at such shallow things that they are losing out on enjoyment in life. This includes the whole debate about labia. Guys who would dare try to insult, humiliate, or denegrate a girl who would share that intimate part of them deserve to never see another one again.

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loquitur

I'm not aware that there is any particular size labia are "supposed" to be, any more than there is a particular shape that elbows are "supposed" to be. I suppose we can have aesthetic preferences, but I have yet to meet a vulva I didn't like. I have met people I didn't like, but if an encounter with a person progressed to where I was coming face to face (so to speak) with her vulva, then I certainly liked her well enough, and the appearance of her vulva was never an issue. I have never ever found a vulva unattractive.

Destrox

I actually grew up with the understanding that the bigger the flaps, the more "roast beef" it looks, the more the girl is a slut.

Sort of like those who grow up with racist upbringings, its hard to change, but change is possible

It has taken me time and I have educated me self on the matter. While I am still not turned on by it like some of you are, I definitely am not disgusted by it.

After all, a pussy is a pussy. And there is nothing conceivably wrong with that no matter what it looks like.

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elydian

Prominent labia are hot.

Seriously.

I see a lot of people posting from the fence, and I see the odd one posting from the, "nah they suck", side. I just wanted to post from the, "they quite clearly rock", side. I'd say when they're hidden, it's not as hot for me. But tbh, if you're gonna put it right in front of me, I'm not gonna be saying no, whatever the hell it looks like.

Edit: Incedentally, as I see it mentioned earlier, I can't believe JJ had a vaginoplasty. In terms of aesthetics, I always thought her's was close to perfect. It just show's how subjective and personal this whole thing is.

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socal

I think the vast majority of people (men and women) like a prominent Labia. This is the reason porn stars typically are like that. It is because the porn industry is actually quite sophisticated in terms of marketing and analysis. The women are like this because they are addressing the preferences of their audience.

To call it warm roastbeef to me seems like someone has labia envy. The look is erotic and the touch is even more so.

Peace out

mokle

The bigger the better

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abaya

Wow... I didn't think this was possible. Do you mean that people actually *talked* about how women's labia should look? Are we talking about locker room contexts or family dinner conversations, or what? I am really curious about this.

That said, I am really glad to hear that you've worked on changing your beliefs... that's commendable.

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Esoteric

You go off on a rant like this and have the audacity to call someone else childish for their words? You're physically threatening someone for their opinion, albeit poorly worded and yet you think it's somehow okay? The irony is thick, and for the record I have no problems with these 'flaps' as they're so called.

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highthief

Not sure why everyone is freaking out - it's like anything else about the human body and people's own personal tastes. Some like big tits, some like little ones; some like blondes, some like brunettes; and some like flaps, and some don't.

To each their own.

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biznatch

I would feel extremely hurt (well, maybe not, but who knows) if someone insulted me based on the appearance of my penis. I feel sorry for anyone who judges another based on something they can't control.
Labia, prominent or not, are cool.

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surferlove007

Oh really? I have the audacity to call someone childish for words like that?

Well I will also have the "audacity" to call you a moron for calling me childish.
A place like this does not need people like that posting hurtful messages and I will not tolerate it especially from someone like you.
The TFP is an environment for educated thinking and open minds, not for stereotypical jackasses such as yourself. Watch it with who you call childish.

And no I won't revise my statement and I wouldn't change any of the things posted, let the record show my sentiment toward this subject.
If you don't like it, piss off.

Esoteric

Like I said in my previous post, I have no problems with a prominent labia; and I'm surely not going to think she's a skank or whore because of it. I just find it laughable that you'll physically threaten someone over their misguided opinion instead of rather trying to inform them that having a prominent labia doesn't mean she's a skank as she put it.

Also, I'm far from a stereotypical jackass, thanks.

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Charlatan

Everyone take a step back and cool off.

There is no need to throw insults back at someone who is being insulting. Address the post, not the poster.

If you don't want to deal with it... report the post to a mod and we will deal with it.

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xepherys

I'm a bit confused about why people are getting in a tizzy about some people having a preference one way or another...

I have an average sized penis. My wife is happy with it. If she was not, I'd have a different wife. *shrug* As long as YOU are happy with your sex organs, and your partner is happy with your sex organs, why do you care what others think? Some guys like big boobs, some like small. Some girls like 10" schlongs *shudder*, some girls don't. Why are so many people up in arms?

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ghoast girl, don't let it get to you.

The woman who made the initial remarks was way off base and unfortunately, it touched a nerve with you. Just take it for what it is - a silly post on an internet site by a person sitting behind a keyboard.

Keep in mind GG, there are guys like ME who adore, LOVE, and seek out a woman with a prominent inner labia. It's something to be very proud of. Pussy pride! I can't tell you how beautiful I would think your genitalia would be.

Cheers and good sex to you.

SecretMethod70

In an ideal world, no one would care about what other people think. The reality is that people do: people care about their breasts, their penis, and yes, their vagina. They worry that things are too small, too big, too wrinkly, too whatever. There are many women who worry that their vagina is ugly, or maybe they think that vagina's in general are ugly. This may be due to things they've been told or messages they've simply picked up from society.

Of course everyone is entitled to have a preference. There's nothing wrong with preferring one aesthetic look over another. Still, when expressing that preference, one ought to at least try to keep in mind what they're implying. To use an example from this thread, saying that you prefer vaginas "clean and streamlined" implies that vaginas with larger labia are unclean, whether or not this is something you actually believe. That's about as ridiculous as implying a wrinkly scrotum is unclean. And, as we can now see, when people grow up being told that there is a "proper" way for a vagina to look and that other appearances are "used" or "unclean," you're going to hit a nerve if you're not thoughtful when expressing your opinion.

In short, enjoy whatever the hell you want. But when expressing that opinion, keep in mind what you're actually saying, and that you may be talking to someone who fits the subject.

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Dilbert1234567

group hug?

*hugs everyone*

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/hug

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squeeeb

how common are large labia or a large clit? by large clit, i'm talking lindamight large (if you don't know, google "lindamight") and by large labia i mean, long hanging labia.

i'm sure while i may be in a minority, i'm not the ONLY human to be turned on by this. do many other guys like it?

why are women embarrassed by having large lips? i've read lots crap on internet forums where girls are embarrased by thier large labia, they think it's ugly or something. why don't they realize it's attractive and a turn on? at least here in the states, we all want bigger things. bigger cars, houses, dicks, why not female genitalia?

and how would you go about meeting a woman with a large clit? do you ask her up front? do you place an ad in the paper?

it's a weird topic, i know, but these things are a mystery to me....

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Racnad

Yes, big female parts do sound good, but not so big that i would be mistaken for a penis. I'm not going to do that google search now because it doesn't sound SFW.

You place an ad in the paper and let us know how it goes.