Umm, keep avoiding her... for the rest of your life, if possible. Quit trying to understand her... girls like that are tar babies. The more you try to get a handle on them, the stickier they become. They want to draw you into their madness and trap you with their issues. So the more energy you put into asking "Why?" or "WTF?", the more you are drawn into her little manipulative game.

The only way out is to completely cut her off, stop trying to figure her out, and move on from the friendship and any attraction you have to her. I mean, do not allow her into your life whatsoever. Coming from a female perspective, I can tell you that this is one messed-up bitch. Even if she admits it out loud, it doesn't mean she's self-aware enough to be involved with. Stay as far away as possibly, especially mentally/emotionally.

What are the signs that she's a messed up bitch so I can watch out next time? I understand something is not right with her if she considers going to the gym with a guy some sort of hook up attempt, but then again, I called her ex and she over reacted..She's defiantly not worth the time or energy but is there a reason for her apologizing to me after deleting me from phone/msn and saying she couldn't stand me? Or is it just madness?

Look man, with women like this, you'll never find the reason. THEY don't even know the reason, but they want you to think they know, so that they can drive you crazy with finding it out. That's why you have to stop asking why she's behaving like this, realize it is has NOTHING to do with you and everything to do with her issues, and chalk it up to madness and general immaturity. Drop it, man. Stop asking questions. NO, seriously. Stop.

Your best strategy is that whenever a girl starts messing around, don't put up with it. Say something like, "Ok, now you need to STOP", and walk away. If she's normal (meaning slightly irrational like most of us girls can be), she'll realise you refuse to get messed around, which will increase her respect for you, and possibly even attract her to you... that's happened to me more than once.

And if she's bona fide crazy, well you just saved your ass a hell of a lot of trouble.

Am I the only one with a gut feeling Drama Queen and the Ex will get together again soon?

One way of spotting psychos like this is that they take center stage all the freaking time. Normal people move in and out of the spotlight in group situations, allowing for all to say or do their thing to some extent. Psychos don't. They demand attention constantly.

Another very weird thing I noticed with her is that she always talks about some problems she has, ''oh my grandpa is dying'', ''my grandma ruined my childhood'', ''my dad found out about the ex and now won't speak to me''..It's very weird that 75% of her conversations are some sort of problem. I think she's trying to play a victim or something? Anyway, I'm just trying to be friendly now while keeping away from her, she's always trying to argue with me which is pretty odd and I don't really care anyway since I hardly see her anymore.

I disagree that she's crazy... crazy people aren't as common, and she reminds me of many people I knew back in high school. However, she is extremely unstable... which is almost worse. Crazy people are at least entertaining, unstable people just make things miserable. And you can't try and use logic to understand either type of person, they run on pure emotion.

Anyway, I think you have the right idea... just try and remain neutral. Good luck.

well something is defiantly wrong..today during class she didn't say hi to me or anything but kept gazing at me, I didn't return any of her gazes and tried to read the newspaper without having to look at her then after class I left to have a smoke and she didn't show up even though she usually does. Then after the next class I decided not to go to the library where she always is but instead outside, then she comes out and doesn't come to the usual spot and just leaves. It seems she's provoking me to approach her but when I don't she avoids me or something? Did I do the right thing by avoiding her altogether?

The right thing to do is stop thinking about her, whatsoever. Don't think about her schedule, or what she's trying to get you to do, or what her problem is. When you get to the point where she's not even a blip on your mental radar, then that means you've stopped caring, which is the right place to be with this girl. She doesn't deserve for you to care about her, given her actions.

2 cents.

We go to the same school and have the same class, it's hard not to notice her..I just want to be friendly and not have to avoid anyone and not have anyone avoiding me. I really just want to call her and say hey I wasn't trying to ignore you or anything I just want to be friendly without the drama. But I'm afraid that would just create more problems.

Afterburn, I urge you to reread jj's post earlier. And abaya's. The chick is whacko, and caught up in some alternate melodrama world that you don't want to understand.

YOU ARE CHOOSING THE WAY OF PAIN!!!

you're not avoiding her very well if you know when or where she is not at times you know she's supposed to be there. It seems to me like you're sort of fascinated with this chick because you don't understand her and are thinking way way to much about the whys.

Sometimes people just act crazy. Who knows what this girls problem is, but it seems to me that you're just way to interested in why she 'hates you' or whatever her issue is. You just need to let it go and realize not everyone you meet is going to like you, not every girl you meet is going to be sane or know exactly what she wants out of a man.

move on

LET GO. She is NOT capable of being "friendly without the drama," alright? So stop trying. Just stop.

I'm not trying to be harsh, but seriously, you have no idea how "into this" you are. You are wasting so much energy on someone who does not deserve it. She certainly doesn't deserve 53 posts on an internet forum, alright? That's how much energy you are putting into this.

Simply... not... worth it.

Maybe the 54th post will convince you TO MOVE ON!

She's not worth your time. She's not worth your effort. She's not worthy of being your friend. Find someone else. There is no friendship possible here without the drama. She's told you that. You've seen that. Move on. There's nothing to see here.

yeah I wouldn't even bother.

People like attention, even if it's from someone negative.

The question now isn't about her acting strange. You okay socially Afterburn?

Afterburn - girls often play these games to see how much attention they can get out of a guy. It's like a cat toying with a mouse before destroying it. She's a cat. Don't play... you'll get hurt.

If he is not bright enough to see through her Bullshit games,
then F**K him too, he is a moron.

this girl is fucking with you . Stay away. Go drinking with her ex bf.

AfterBurn, after considering this for a long time, I was harkened back to this link I saw a long time ago. For some reason, it sounds strangely appropriate.

haha funny letter, but we are not even together so this is not even a break-up...I'm just trying to solve this mystery so that next time I know exactly what to do if some other girl tries the same crap. I also learned not to phone ex boyfriends ever. Maybe I can learn more.

It's really not a mystery. Well, I'm a little mystified as to what you find mysterious about it.

"Ouch, that snake bit me!"
"Why did it bite me? I just wanted to play?"
"But why would it want to bite me?"
"How do I recognize other snakes so I don't get bit again?"
"Uh oh, I think another snake might bite me, I stuck my hand in it's snake house."

...

Was gonna say "snake hole", but I didn't want you to get the wrong idea. :lol:

what's mysterious about it is that she's either totally playing me or is crazy or I'm misunderstanding something here..I will most likely just continue on avoiding her and assume she's just crazy, since that's what everyone is saying I should do

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Afterburn, think hard about how this wo. . .girl acts. Do you have a list in your mind? Good. Now, use this list to evaluate other females. If they openly exhibit even 3/4ths of the traits this one does, ignore them completely.

Also, you may "go to the same school", but you don't have to be sweet and nice to everyone. Forget her schedule, Where she goes for smoke breaks, etc. She does hate you. Why? Why do you care? She is obviously not stable, and not worth feeling bad over. Forget her. What is wrong with her is she has a set of her own rules, and she will not tell anyone what they are ever. If she did, her game would end. Once again, just in case you didn't get it forget that she exists. You'll be happier, I assure you.

LOL Worlds King. I love reading your posts...

Riker?! Ensign Ro?! Holy crap, I think I just had a nerdgasm.

Other than that - just ignore the crazy chick. Don't avoid her, but don't interact either. Don't try to understand, or 'fix things'. Just leave it alone.

You managed to handle the whole situation so well! If it was me, I would have got my daggers out on msn. What a bitch! Any way, I think maybe you are analysing this so much because you were never nasty back to her. However, ignoring her, and pretending everything is normal is wonderful revenge :P just leave it at that. Soon it will all be forgotten xD

hehe thanks so much for all your help!

well, not much to update, I started sitting away from her and I hardly see her around anymore and it's been great. She still hangs around her ex boyfriend though, but whatever.

Good work, AB. :)

I hear ya. Mind games galore.

You're better off without. Better yet, condolences to the (ex?) bf.