Seaver

Oh ok. So when someone comes in a facade of seeking knowledge, only to show his true colors of a simple we're smarter-and-better-than-you crier we're not allowed to get upset?

It's vain to get offended when someone insults your intelligence or manner in which you live? That's not what Toqueville was speaking of (though nice use of him I must admit). What he was pointing at was the way in which to best deal with American diplomats. The diplomats and people show a weakness to flattery... but show me a person that doesn't deal better with those who compliment him/her than with one who only attacks and I'll prostate myself infront of you (i.e. not going to happen).

However that is a flawed source, primarily because his society (perticularly class) respected tradition. While most were forward thinking, there was a tendancy to believe that because something has lasted, that survivability prooves it was worthwhile and thus worthy of respect. Clearly this was in opposite of this brand new country. While Americans viewed themselves as respect worthy due to their victory, the Europeans attempted to reject that simply because America had not proven itself in the length of time as the various European powers.

Toqueville was extremely forward thinking and liberal, however these biases still existed, thus it can not be brought into this as an objective source.

pan6467

Hate to interupt, as you and Roach are both making interesting points.... but my very peculiar and weird sense of humor had to say something........

I think a masochist would be more comfortable in that situation.... so seaver to save us all from seeing you prostate yourself..... can you please exclude masochists...... as someone may use that as an example, and things could get messy and just the thought..... yech......

sorry, weird sense of humor rant over.... please resume.

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Ustwo

No body really cares either.

Don't feed the trolls

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shakran

To tell the truth, I'm still on the fence about whether this guy is being a troll or is just being an idiot. I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt. Hopefully that doesn't mean I'm feeding a troll

Seaver

LMAO.. prostRate... prostRate is what I meant.

Ain't that a mispell from hell.

Benito

Reveney: As English is not my native language, not even my second or third language, it is very difficult for me to give you the definition of "great". I hope you know English better than I do, and that you can understand the meaning of "great". Otherwise you must be stupid, maybe even American.

Macmanmike: First, I am very sorry, but I do not have the time to look at every link you gave regarding the inventions. Honestly I am sorry, because I am sure there would have been many invention to be discussed.
There is ****NO**** nation in the world at this time, who would like USA to interfere with their country. There is ****NO**** nation in the world who would like USA to be a world-police.
To answer still one of your question: I have still not met an American that is not ignorant. And how many have I met? Maybe about 4000.
No, I do not know how much taxes you pay in the USA. In Europe we pay about 25-30%. As a highincome man (I have two doctors degree) I pay 25%.
To answer your question: For example USA has over 11.000 killings by arms annually, Canada has 139.
As a conclusion: you can find nothing that makes USA great.

Pan 6467: Thank you for your opinion. You cannot finf anything great with USA, ergo sum it is not great.

Connyosis: Well, nobody asked a Sweeds opinion. In Europe we do know the bad situation of the education of the Sweeds. It is horrible, almost American.

Shakran: Thank you for......nothing. You were a typical ignorant American. Thank you for telling us that those are!

Lebell: No, even though you think so I am not a bad monster. I have heard that USA is bad, and now I ask somebody; the Americans. But they cannot answer, maybe because they are so stupid?

Psycho Dad: My county was allied with Germany but we won the Soviet Union. There is only one such country. You know it if you are not ignorant and stupid, which you may be if you are American.

Splck: Long live Canada!! I have many friends from there, they are sympatetic. I have as many friends from USA, they are ignorant and stupid.

flstf: I don't understand you. Maybe you should go back to school. Hopefully you should come to Europe to a real school.

Seaver: I am very sorry, I do not understand what you are writing. I know that English is not my first language, but the language you are writing is not English, even I can say it. I would like to ask you: Isn't English your first language or are you American?

Benito

Locobot

Benito,
Sorry dude, but the most ignorant person in this thread is clearly you. Are you sure you're not American? Surely this thread is pointless and needs to be moderated.

connyosis

I don't know if I should laugh or cry. Hilarious, yet very very sad...
(Oh, and that would be Swede, not Sweed. Something you should know with your great education )

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Psycho Dad

Given his last post, I'd wager idiot troll.

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Lebell

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