Congressman with the most conservative voting record slams Bush - Tilted Forum Project Discussion Community

samcol · 10-13-2005, 11:24 AM

I think it's time for conservatives to decide if they believe in smaller less intrusive government, or a corrupt Neo-con agenda. It does conservatives (and Americans) no good to continue following these crooks and liars. Conservatives and Liberals alike should support honesty and integrity above party lines.

Please figure it out that this administration is not conservative, they are only using the conservative name and strong backing to carry out their personal agendas. This is becoming more and more evident everyday.

Republican Congressman Slams Bush On Militarized Police State Preparation
Ron Paul says indictment story is far more damaging than media is portraying, avian flu martial law provisions aimed at gun confiscation

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Paul Joseph Watson & Alex Jones | October 12 2005

Congressman Ron Paul has accused the Bush administration of attempting to set in motion a militarized police state in America by enacting gun confiscation martial law provisions in the event of an avian flu pandemic. Paul also slammed as delusional and dangerous plans to invade Iran, Syria, North Korea and China.

Ron Paul represents the 14th Congressional district of Texas. He also serves on the House of Representatives Financial Services Committee, and the International Relations committee.

Paul appeared on the Alex Jones show yesterday and raised some interesting points about the possibility of imminent indictments of top Bush administration figures.

"I think there's a lot more excitement coming and it's not going to be good for the Republicans," stated Paul.

"The things that I hear have to do with Karl Rove and Abramoff and that's much much worse than anybody would believe and it involves DeLay as well."

"And that type of an indictment will be much more serious than the indictment of shifting campaign funds around.....there's some political infighting which could make that really interesting."

On the subject of the police state, Paul stated,

"If we don't change our ways we will go the way of Rome and I see that as rather sad.....the worst things happen when you get the so-called Republican conservatives in charge from Nixon on down, big government flourishes under Republicans."

"It's really hard to believe it's happening right in front of us. Whether it's the torture or the process of denying habeas corpus to an American citizen."

"I think the arrogance of power that they have where they themselves are like Communists....in the sense that they decide what is right. The Communist Party said that they decided what was right or wrong, it wasn't a higher source."

Paul responded to President Bush's announcement last week that he would order the use of military assets to police America in the event of an avian flu outbreak.

"To me it's so strange that the President can make these proposals and it's even plausible. When he talks about martial law dealing with some epidemic that might come later on and having forced quarantines, doing away with Posse Comitatus in order to deal with natural disasters, and hardly anybody says anything. People must be scared to death."

Paul, himself a medical doctor, agreed that the bird flu threat was empty fearmongering.

"I believe it is the President hyping this and Rumsfeld, but it has to be in combination with the people being fearful enough that they will accept the man on the white horse. My first reaction going from my political and medical background is that it's way overly hyped and to think that they have gone this far with it, without a single case in the whole country and they're willing to change the law and turn it into a military state? That is unbelievable! They're determined to have martial law."

Paul opined that the martial law provisions now being promoted by the Bush administration were a direct response to people's unwillingness to relinquish their firearms, as was seen in New Orleans after Hurricane Katrina.

"I think they're concerned about the remnant, the remnant of those individuals who don't buy into stuff and think that they should take care of themselves on their own, that they should have their own guns and their own provisions and they don't want to depend on the government at all and I think that is a threat to those who want to hold power. They don't want any resistance to their authoritarian rule."

Paul opined that the government was on a delusional power trip that threatened the country.

"These guys are ready to start a war with Iran, Syria, North Korea or China. They can't possibly do that, it's so insane, we don't have the money, we don't have the troops, we probably don't even have the ammunition."

"But, if they are truly delusional they just might do something that's totally irrational."

Paul expressed his hope that finally some conservatives are waking up to the fact that the Bush administration is a trojan horse, especially after arch-liberal Harriet Miers was chosen by Bush to supposedly move the Supreme Court to the right, even though her record is atrocious and she has been involved in the past covering up for the Bush crime family's activities.

Ustwo · 10-13-2005, 12:07 PM

Ron Paul is a libertarian and speaks of himself as such.

I mostly like libertarians, but by default libertarians should be opposed to much of what Bush does from Iraq to 'compassionate conservatism'. Giving him kudos for breaking party lines doesn't work when he only uses the R next to his name since libertarians almost never get elected if they run as a libertarian.

I could be happy with a government full of Ron Pauls but just wait till you see what they do with social spending

SteelyLoins · 10-13-2005, 11:46 PM

On a somewhat related note, now that we've decided to throw money at the Katrina victims, and prior to that, the 9/11 victims, how do we say no to the next person who experiences a personal tragedy?

And why should anyone pay for homeowner's insurance anymore?

(Hoping I didn't unknowingly quote someone else's post, while thinking it was my idea.)

10-13-2005, 12:07 PM	#2 (permalink)
Ustwo Pissing in the cornflakes	Ron Paul is a libertarian and speaks of himself as such. I mostly like libertarians, but by default libertarians should be opposed to much of what Bush does from Iraq to 'compassionate conservatism'. Giving him kudos for breaking party lines doesn't work when he only uses the R next to his name since libertarians almost never get elected if they run as a libertarian. I could be happy with a government full of Ron Pauls but just wait till you see what they do with social spending __________________ Agents of the enemies who hold office in our own government, who attempt to eliminate our "freedoms" and our "right to know" are posting among us, I fear.....on this very forum. - host Obama - Know a Man by the friends he keeps.

10-13-2005, 11:46 PM	#3 (permalink)
SteelyLoins Upright	On a somewhat related note, now that we've decided to throw money at the Katrina victims, and prior to that, the 9/11 victims, how do we say no to the next person who experiences a personal tragedy? And why should anyone pay for homeowner's insurance anymore? (Hoping I didn't unknowingly quote someone else's post, while thinking it was my idea.)