The Mexican government isn't even hiding it anymore - Page 2 - Tilted Forum Project Discussion Community

sob · 01-14-2005, 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by tellumFS

The cost of the social benefits is a good question to be raised. But I'd imagine that with more workers paying in, it wouldn't be too much of a burden.

You must not have been to an emergency room lately. There are a lot of hospitals trying to stave off insolvency.

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Originally Posted by tellumFS

Personally I don't think I agree with making English as the official language of the United States. Having English being as widespread as it is now is something pretty recent (~WWII). Before then there were places in east, midwest, and west that you could go and try and speak English, but you'd have a hard time. German was pretty common throughout Minnesota and Wisconsin. Italian in New York. Chinese in parts of California. The point is, is that people will learn English. I don't think there's a need to make it official.

Besides, a little bilingual education never hurt. If anything, knowing more than one language makes you smarter.

Unfortunately, the situation gets much more complex when you consider what language schools must teach in, street signs, ballots, and the like.

The logistics are definitely daunting.

Mephisto2 · 01-14-2005, 08:01 PM

I support keeping English as the official language. In Europe they formally adopt each and every member country's language as equally valid and official. Makes things VERY complicated and waste millions of dollars a year on translation costs.

Mr Mephisto

Tarl Cabot · 01-15-2005, 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr Mephisto

I support keeping English as the official language. In Europe they formally adopt each and every member country's language as equally valid and official. Makes things VERY complicated and waste millions of dollars a year on translation costs.

Mr Mephisto

Where's the fun agreeing with each other?

Unfortunately, the US doesn't have an official language. That's why we're headed down the wrong path in regard to assimilating (or the lack thereof) immigrants.

Kadath · 01-16-2005, 05:29 AM

Okay, people who are in favor of English as the national language, don't worry. English isn't going anywhere. America wins, all right? Everyone else speaks English, and we don't speak any other languages. We don't need to make it the national language, and any politicians who introduced such a bill would be cutting themselves off from the huge Latino vote, so it won't happen.

biznatch · 01-16-2005, 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by jorgelito

I mean I understand the economics but it still doesn't make it right. Maybe we should bill their government for the cost of their citizens (i.e.- health care, education, crime, crime, crime).

hm...that's sort of like saying immigrants are responsible for most crime happening hear..
I don't like that.

jorgelito · 01-16-2005, 11:32 AM

Actually, I was referring to the illegal ones and the associated costs.

Where I live, a lot of the illegals (or what I assume to be illegals) in fact do commit many crimes. Unfortunately, I do not have any hard data confirming my assumption (originally based on some police report or something) so I could be wrong and if so will admit such. I do have some personal experience. (being in prison and beng victim of crimes - got mugged).

But currently, I am under the impression that many illegals commit many of the crime where I live.

So, my original contention that the Mexican government should pay for the costs of their illegals seems perfectly fair especially since they are actively encouraging and suppyling a manual on how to enter our country illegally.

Nirvana · 07-05-2005, 12:13 PM

what bothers me a lot is the corruption of mexican officials when it comes to children and kidnapping.

01-16-2005, 05:29 AM	#44 (permalink)
Kadath Muffled Location: Camazotz	Okay, people who are in favor of English as the national language, don't worry. English isn't going anywhere. America wins, all right? Everyone else speaks English, and we don't speak any other languages. We don't need to make it the national language, and any politicians who introduced such a bill would be cutting themselves off from the huge Latino vote, so it won't happen. __________________ it's quiet in here

01-14-2005, 08:01 PM	#42 (permalink)
Mephisto2 Junkie	I support keeping English as the official language. In Europe they formally adopt each and every member country's language as equally valid and official. Makes things VERY complicated and waste millions of dollars a year on translation costs. Mr Mephisto

01-16-2005, 11:32 AM	#46 (permalink)
jorgelito All important elusive independent swing voter... Location: People's Republic of KKKalifornia	Actually, I was referring to the illegal ones and the associated costs. Where I live, a lot of the illegals (or what I assume to be illegals) in fact do commit many crimes. Unfortunately, I do not have any hard data confirming my assumption (originally based on some police report or something) so I could be wrong and if so will admit such. I do have some personal experience. (being in prison and beng victim of crimes - got mugged). But currently, I am under the impression that many illegals commit many of the crime where I live. So, my original contention that the Mexican government should pay for the costs of their illegals seems perfectly fair especially since they are actively encouraging and suppyling a manual on how to enter our country illegally.

07-05-2005, 12:13 PM	#47 (permalink)
Nirvana Crazy	what bothers me a lot is the corruption of mexican officials when it comes to children and kidnapping.