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mrbuck12000 · 12-12-2004, 09:10 AM

by Bob Dylan....this song needs to be re-visited. Unfortunatly its relevance is back again. Read and think about it....written in 1963. WOW!!

Come you masters of war
You that build all the guns
You that build the death planes
You that build the big bombs
You that hide behind walls
You that hide behind desks
I just want you to know
I can see through your masks

You that never done nothin'
But build to destroy
You play with my world
Like it's your little toy
You put a gun in my hand
And you hide from my eyes
And you turn and run farther
When the fast bullets fly

Like Judas of old
You lie and deceive
A world war can be won
You want me to believe
But I see through your eyes
And I see through your brain
Like I see through the water
That runs down my drain

You fasten the triggers
For the others to fire
Then you set back and watch
When the death count gets higher
You hide in your mansion
As young people's blood
Flows out of their bodies
And is buried in the mud

You've thrown the worst fear
That can ever be hurled
Fear to bring children
Into the world
For threatening my baby
Unborn and unnamed
You ain't worth the blood
That runs in your veins

How much do I know
To talk out of turn
You might say that I'm young
You might say I'm unlearned
But there's one thing I know
Though I'm younger than you
Even Jesus would never
Forgive what you do

Let me ask you one question
Is your money that good
Will it buy you forgiveness
Do you think that it could
I think you will find
When your death takes its toll
All the money you made
Will never buy back your soul

And I hope that you die
And your death'll come soon
I will follow your casket
In the pale afternoon
And I'll watch while you're lowered
Down to your deathbed
And I'll stand o'er your grave
'Til I'm sure that you're dead

Copyright © 1963; renewed 1991 Special Rider Music

mrb

Mojo_PeiPei · 12-12-2004, 10:43 AM

Usually I don't pay much mind to posts like these, but honestly, where are you going with this? You didn't even try to encourage any discussion, just seems like a troll or something. I don't think anyone here is going to call Bob Dylan a moron and say war is good, regardless where they stand.

Seaver · 12-12-2004, 01:02 PM

Prediction of closed thread... you didnt leave anything to even start a discussion

The_wall · 12-12-2004, 01:35 PM

He left the lyrics to a song to start a discussion, but this song was in the news recently with some high school kids so it actually was discussed recently.

Lebell · 12-12-2004, 04:41 PM

I agree.

What is the point of this post?

I'll leave it open awhile longer, but it will be closed if you can't point it in a direction.

mrbuck12000 · 12-12-2004, 06:55 PM

Sorry, i just heard a story about the song and i thought i would share the lyrics with someone and that someone was this forum. I just think these lyrics have so much relevance with the present and this pointless war that has cost us the US alone 1000 plus soldiers and numerous wounded, and tons of cash. I wasn't trolling just sharing!! if you want to lock it, thats ok.

mrb

Locobot · 12-13-2004, 10:19 AM

It's as true today as it was in 1963, even before Vietnam casualties escalated. There is a policy against content without comment here so this should probably be locked unfortunately.

Lebell · 12-13-2004, 10:32 AM

Ok, don't really see this going anywhere.

Locked.

12-12-2004, 09:10 AM	#1 (permalink)
mrbuck12000 Psycho Location: wisCONsin	Masters of War by Bob Dylan....this song needs to be re-visited. Unfortunatly its relevance is back again. Read and think about it....written in 1963. WOW!! Come you masters of war You that build all the guns You that build the death planes You that build the big bombs You that hide behind walls You that hide behind desks I just want you to know I can see through your masks You that never done nothin' But build to destroy You play with my world Like it's your little toy You put a gun in my hand And you hide from my eyes And you turn and run farther When the fast bullets fly Like Judas of old You lie and deceive A world war can be won You want me to believe But I see through your eyes And I see through your brain Like I see through the water That runs down my drain You fasten the triggers For the others to fire Then you set back and watch When the death count gets higher You hide in your mansion As young people's blood Flows out of their bodies And is buried in the mud You've thrown the worst fear That can ever be hurled Fear to bring children Into the world For threatening my baby Unborn and unnamed You ain't worth the blood That runs in your veins How much do I know To talk out of turn You might say that I'm young You might say I'm unlearned But there's one thing I know Though I'm younger than you Even Jesus would never Forgive what you do Let me ask you one question Is your money that good Will it buy you forgiveness Do you think that it could I think you will find When your death takes its toll All the money you made Will never buy back your soul And I hope that you die And your death'll come soon I will follow your casket In the pale afternoon And I'll watch while you're lowered Down to your deathbed And I'll stand o'er your grave 'Til I'm sure that you're dead Copyright © 1963; renewed 1991 Special Rider Music mrb __________________ "There's an old saying in Tennessee -- I know it's in Texas, it's probably in Tennessee --that says, fool me once, shame on ... shame on you. Fool me ... You can't get fooled again." - G.W. Bush quoted by the Baltimore Sun - Oct 6, 2002

12-12-2004, 10:43 AM	#2 (permalink)
Mojo_PeiPei Kiss of Death Location: Perpetual wind and sorrow	Usually I don't pay much mind to posts like these, but honestly, where are you going with this? You didn't even try to encourage any discussion, just seems like a troll or something. I don't think anyone here is going to call Bob Dylan a moron and say war is good, regardless where they stand. __________________ To win a war you must serve no master but your ambition.

12-12-2004, 01:35 PM	#4 (permalink)
The_wall Psycho Location: Rhode Island biatches!	He left the lyrics to a song to start a discussion, but this song was in the news recently with some high school kids so it actually was discussed recently. __________________ "We do what we like and we like what we do!"~andrew Wk Procrastinate now, don't put off to the last minute.

12-12-2004, 04:41 PM	#5 (permalink)
Lebell Cracking the Whip Location: Sexymama's arms...	I agree. What is the point of this post? I'll leave it open awhile longer, but it will be closed if you can't point it in a direction. __________________ "Of all tyrannies, a tyranny exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It may be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end, for they do so with the approval of their own conscience." – C. S. Lewis The ONLY sponsors we have are YOU! Please Donate!

12-12-2004, 06:55 PM	#6 (permalink)
mrbuck12000 Psycho Location: wisCONsin	Sorry, i just heard a story about the song and i thought i would share the lyrics with someone and that someone was this forum. I just think these lyrics have so much relevance with the present and this pointless war that has cost us the US alone 1000 plus soldiers and numerous wounded, and tons of cash. I wasn't trolling just sharing!! if you want to lock it, thats ok. mrb __________________ "There's an old saying in Tennessee -- I know it's in Texas, it's probably in Tennessee --that says, fool me once, shame on ... shame on you. Fool me ... You can't get fooled again." - G.W. Bush quoted by the Baltimore Sun - Oct 6, 2002

12-12-2004, 01:02 PM	#3 (permalink)
Seaver Junkie Location: Fort Worth, TX	Prediction of closed thread... you didnt leave anything to even start a discussion

12-13-2004, 10:19 AM	#7 (permalink)
Locobot is awesome!	It's as true today as it was in 1963, even before Vietnam casualties escalated. There is a policy against content without comment here so this should probably be locked unfortunately.

12-13-2004, 10:32 AM	#8 (permalink)
Lebell Cracking the Whip Location: Sexymama's arms...	Ok, don't really see this going anywhere. Locked. __________________ "Of all tyrannies, a tyranny exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It may be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end, for they do so with the approval of their own conscience." – C. S. Lewis The ONLY sponsors we have are YOU! Please Donate!