What John Kerry does NOT want you to see...
 

Link leads to a movie clip where Kerry essentially says he doesn't like Saddam.

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-lebell


Thought this was funny and retarded :lol:Hope this hasn't been posted yet
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- Undercover_Man

its funny...he says "keep the pressure on"...which he maintains to this day.

he doesn't say "invade prematurely with a small coalition."

the fun of clipping...but it's really quite ineffective.

Have you not heard him say HUNDREDS of times, that he doesn't disagree with dealing with Iraq, he disagree's with the way BUSH did it. God, watch the fucking debates.

And at the same time, they have half the republican base believing that Kerry would never have invaded Iraq. It just doesn't make any sense.

Sigh.
I watched the whole thing, and it did nothing other than frustrate me the lengths people will go in trying to manipulate and take out of context just about everything John Kerry Says.

Hey, it's almost like Michael Moore decided that he hates Kerry all of a sudden.

Except the point they were trying to make didn't even come through. Kerry's stance, as he clarifies it today, has always been that: Saddam was a threat; there was a right way to handle it, and a wrong way; Bush choose the wrong way; I would have choose the right way.

The propaganda piece here fully support this statement.

This doesn't mean I completely agree with Kerry on this issue. Unfortunatly, most of the country does (just not the Democrats).

Yeah, the "stay the hell out of there and let fucking Israel handle their own problems" would have been my approach, but what can you do?

I bet john kerry doesn't want me to see his swimsuit area. We're not really that close.

How is that funny? It just shows him being consistant with what hes saying now.

where oh where is undercover? appears like another hit 'n run to me...

It's quite obvious in the Democratic debate John Kerry said that Bush did the right thing, and now what's he saying? His tune has changed slowly but surely, doing his best to back away from all of his votes in the Senate. The scary thing is that he might still get away with it.

Sigh....Kerry said that taking down Saddam was the right thing to do but that the way Bush did it was incorrect...that has been the consistent message. I don't happen to agree with Kerry's position, but that, as they say, is the truth.

Kerry on Iraq is one of the best documentrys IVE EVER SEEN. ALL FROM THE HORSES MOUTH!

I'M SURE THAT A PARTISAN DOCUMENTARY GAVE A REAL FAIR TREATMENT OF THE ISSUE.

ALL CLIPS AND QUOTES

And this is part of the documentry

Have you ever heard the terms "out-of-context" or "creative editing?"

have you watched the documentry??

I have now....I should have included the term "omitting contradictory evidence" to the list that I gave earlier.

Here's what factcheck.org had to say about a Bush commercial that made the same claim:

except the Bush ad that it refers to isnt the clip in question :hmm:

The Bush ad and the linked video are making the exact same claim......

Edit: here's the relevant part of the quote from factcheck.org that I pasted above

except the Bush ad doesnt have John Kerrys own words
and this does.
It isnt distorted to post his own quotes...


As Dick Cheney said - Kerry was for the war- and fine with the way we went about it- until opinion polls showed Dean was ahead because of his antiwar views...


but why bother having this discussion-
people for Kerry will see it as partisan
people for bush see it as for bush
and well
are there any undecided?

well he stated that

Sep 6, 2002:* "If Saddam Hussein is unwilling to bend to the international community's already existing order, then he will have invited enforcement, even if that enforcement is mostly at the hands of the United States, a right we retain even if the Security Council fails to act."

then

Mar 17, 2004: *"For a President, the decision may be lonely, but that does not mean that America should go it alone




oh so its okay to go in " mostly at the hands of the united states" but then says we shouldnt got at it alone


1 stance? no

again we agree to disagree

Do i need to post that same quote again?

That statement has nothing to do with the text of the Bush ad....it's truth exists outside of that context. There is no contradiction and the linked video is only so much misleading noise.

By the way, Dick Cheney isn't the most reliable source for accurate views on Kerry.

Kerry has never wavered from his support for giving Bush authority to use force in Iraq, nor has he changed his position that he, as President, would not have gone to war without greater international support.


He is waivering- because he said that the president reserves the right to go in unlelaterlay, then saying that going in alone was wrong - isnt flipflopping ...

Hmmm, I think that I've seen that particular quote floating around here quite a bit. Would you like to read an "in-context" version of it?:

http://www.johnmccrory.com/wrote.asp?this=255

Emphasis mine.

my guess is that he thinks that only michael moore does that. a republican/conservative would be above that sort of thing.