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Ustwo · 09-07-2004, 07:53 AM

I know Kerry really wants the 'Nascar Dad' vote and he keeps taking pictures of himself being athletic (JFK) and with guns. Well it never looked right and I finally figured out WHY I had these feelings.

The funny thing is they are both doing it for the same reason, to look macho, and both fail. Now I'm not saying Kerry = Saddam, so please don't go there, but I don't think their motivation for the 'gun' shots differs.

j8ear · 09-07-2004, 08:23 AM

Nice safety glasses John John.

nanofever · 09-07-2004, 08:27 AM

This thread reminds me of a funny story; the story of "In before the Lock".

roachboy · 09-07-2004, 08:37 AM

this thread is a farce.

Superbelt · 09-07-2004, 08:41 AM

John Kerry actually IS a hunter.

So stuff it.

Ustwo · 09-07-2004, 08:48 AM

And now for the really amusing part....

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KERRY COSPONSORED BILL BANNING GUN HE WAVES

Was Dem presidential hopeful John Kerry seen this weekend waving a gun which would have been banned if legislation he co-sponsored became law?

Kerry co-sponsored S. 1431 last year (“The Assault Weapons Ban and Law Enforcement Protection Act of 2003) which would have banned a "semiautomatic shotgun that has a pistol grip.”

Opponents of the bill successfully argued how nearly all guns have "pistol grips," inluding millions of Browning Auto-5 shotguns produced since 1903.

Photos show Kerry's hand resting on the "pistol grip," as loosely defined in the bill.

Kerry's bill would ban millions of semi-automatics, including those with "pistol grips." [Section SEC. 2; (H) (ii)]

Kerry was presented with the gun during a Labor Day stop in Racine, West Virginia.

"I thank you for the gift, but I can't take it to the debate with me," Kerry told a cheering crowd as he held up the device.

[Kerry's gun bill would also ban any "gift" transaction. Kerry did not submit to a waiting period or background check before he claimed the gun. Also, since the Gun Control Act of 1968 was passed, it has been illegal for an unlicensed individual (a non-dealer, non-collector, non-manufacturer, etc.) to obtain a firearm in a state in which you are not a legal resident. It is not clear if Kerry complete the required paperwork (a form 4473) and background (Brady) check.]

Developing...

http://www.drudgereport.com/dncg.htm

Superbelt · 09-07-2004, 08:49 AM

Just for a bit more.

http://www.discriminations.us/storage/002721.html

This is a right wing Blog. You can tell by reading through all the comments. Pretty clear.

Everyone here was RIPPING into Kerry for his stance etc. in the pictures linked from the Blog.

Then someone comes in who was honest, someone who actually KNOWS what he is talking about, and posted this:

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It pains me to say this because I'd walk across hot rocks to vote against Kerry, but Kerry's pose with the gun is the real deal. As the editor of two wingshooting magazines and the author of several books on the subject, I can tell you he is actually demonstrating pretty good form. Instinctive shooters (those who don't "aim" but instead "point" in the English manner) grip the barrels with the left hand as Kerry is. His right hand is in the position it is because he is in the process of releasing the safety, which is located on the top tang just aft of the top lever. The gun is not yet to his shoulder because he is mounting it, the release of the safety always properly accompanying the mount. His posture pretty well sucks, but he's in the heat of the moment. I can't tell you what the dog is up to, maybe he's on scent from another bird. It's likely that the Governor's Hunt organizers put Kerry into a real hotspot, and there could be a lot of pheasants right there.

Steve Smith
Editor
The Pointing Dog Journal
The Retriever Journal

Everyone there is referring to this photo in particular

Kerry is a real hunter. It's not for show. You just have to attack every little thing about him to draw attention from the issues and the state of the nation. Just so your party and ideology can win. Grow up.

Seaver · 09-07-2004, 09:01 AM

They're both real hunters. This is just dumb IMO.

nanofever · 09-07-2004, 09:26 AM

Holy shit, stop the presses. Kerry was the 9th co-sponsor on a bill that died in committee; a bill which would have passed 100% in its current form without any changes in committee to make it enforceable or changes to appease Republicans. I swear Drudge is taking down Kerry's bid for the presidency one story at a time. I thought Drudge finally sunk Kerry's battleship with the intern scandal, but now, I think this story is the one that will destroy Kerry's chances.

Also on a side not, Drudge is one of the most intellectually dishonest reporters I have ever seen. Kerry is the 9th co-sponsor of a bill which never even got started in committee, and yet, Drudge constantly refers to the bill as "Kerry's bill". I would strongly suggest that Drudge first take a few classes in OBJECTIVE journalism and then a refresher or two on how Congress works.

And for you Ustwo, what was the point of structuring your thread in this manner? Your first post strongly suggests parallels between Kerry and Saddam, which is disingenuous at best. Your next post talks about how a bill which Kerry co-sponsored doesn't sync with a picture of him at a rally. I think I have heard of a phrase where someone has one position and then changes their position on the same topic. You're a flip-flopper Ustwo; you hear me, A FLIP-FLOPPER I SAY!

Journeyman · 09-07-2004, 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Ustwo

The funny thing is they are both doing it for the same reason, to look macho, and both fail.

Cough, cough.

filtherton · 09-07-2004, 11:16 AM

and

I'm not saying, heh, you know, but, well, you know.

Rdr4evr · 09-07-2004, 12:05 PM

None of them look as 'hardcore' as Saddam. Not saying I like Saddam or anything.

Strange Famous · 09-07-2004, 12:26 PM

I thought threads of political cartoons and humour were supposed to be in the comedy forum or whatever?

Lebell · 09-07-2004, 01:15 PM

There might have been a good thread here.

Locked.

09-07-2004, 07:53 AM	#1 (permalink)
Ustwo Pissing in the cornflakes	This struck me as interesting I know Kerry really wants the 'Nascar Dad' vote and he keeps taking pictures of himself being athletic (JFK) and with guns. Well it never looked right and I finally figured out WHY I had these feelings. The funny thing is they are both doing it for the same reason, to look macho, and both fail. Now I'm not saying Kerry = Saddam, so please don't go there, but I don't think their motivation for the 'gun' shots differs. __________________ Agents of the enemies who hold office in our own government, who attempt to eliminate our "freedoms" and our "right to know" are posting among us, I fear.....on this very forum. - host Obama - Know a Man by the friends he keeps.

09-07-2004, 08:23 AM	#2 (permalink)
j8ear Gentlemen Farmer Location: Middle of nowhere, Jersey	Nice safety glasses John John. __________________ It's alot easier to ask for forgiveness then it is to ask for permission.

09-07-2004, 08:27 AM	#3 (permalink)
nanofever Huzzah for Welcome Week, Much beer shall I imbibe. Location: UCSB	This thread reminds me of a funny story; the story of "In before the Lock". __________________ I'm leaving for the University of California: Santa Barbara in 5 hours, give me your best college advice - things I need, good ideas, bad ideas, nooky, ect. Originally Posted by Norseman on another forum: "Yeah, the problem with the world is the stupid people are all cocksure of themselves and the intellectuals are full of doubt." Last edited by nanofever; 09-07-2004 at 08:48 AM..

09-07-2004, 08:37 AM	#4 (permalink)
roachboy Super Moderator Location: essex ma	this thread is a farce. __________________ a gramophone its corrugated trumpet silver handle spinning dog. such faithfulness it hear it make you sick. -kamau brathwaite

09-07-2004, 09:26 AM	#9 (permalink)
nanofever Huzzah for Welcome Week, Much beer shall I imbibe. Location: UCSB	Holy shit, stop the presses. Kerry was the 9th co-sponsor on a bill that died in committee; a bill which would have passed 100% in its current form without any changes in committee to make it enforceable or changes to appease Republicans. I swear Drudge is taking down Kerry's bid for the presidency one story at a time. I thought Drudge finally sunk Kerry's battleship with the intern scandal, but now, I think this story is the one that will destroy Kerry's chances. Also on a side not, Drudge is one of the most intellectually dishonest reporters I have ever seen. Kerry is the 9th co-sponsor of a bill which never even got started in committee, and yet, Drudge constantly refers to the bill as "Kerry's bill". I would strongly suggest that Drudge first take a few classes in OBJECTIVE journalism and then a refresher or two on how Congress works. And for you Ustwo, what was the point of structuring your thread in this manner? Your first post strongly suggests parallels between Kerry and Saddam, which is disingenuous at best. Your next post talks about how a bill which Kerry co-sponsored doesn't sync with a picture of him at a rally. I think I have heard of a phrase where someone has one position and then changes their position on the same topic. You're a flip-flopper Ustwo; you hear me, A FLIP-FLOPPER I SAY! __________________ I'm leaving for the University of California: Santa Barbara in 5 hours, give me your best college advice - things I need, good ideas, bad ideas, nooky, ect. Originally Posted by Norseman on another forum: "Yeah, the problem with the world is the stupid people are all cocksure of themselves and the intellectuals are full of doubt." Last edited by nanofever; 09-07-2004 at 10:16 AM..

09-07-2004, 08:41 AM	#5 (permalink)
Superbelt This vexes me. I am terribly vexed. Location: Grantville, Pa	John Kerry actually IS a hunter. So stuff it.

09-07-2004, 09:01 AM	#8 (permalink)
Seaver Junkie Location: Fort Worth, TX	They're both real hunters. This is just dumb IMO.

09-07-2004, 11:16 AM	#11 (permalink)
filtherton Junkie Location: In the land of ice and snow.	and I'm not saying, heh, you know, but, well, you know.

09-07-2004, 12:05 PM	#12 (permalink)
Rdr4evr Banned	None of them look as 'hardcore' as Saddam. Not saying I like Saddam or anything.

09-07-2004, 12:26 PM	#13 (permalink)
Strange Famous follower of the child's crusade?	I thought threads of political cartoons and humour were supposed to be in the comedy forum or whatever? __________________ "Do not tell lies, and do not do what you hate, for all things are plain in the sight of Heaven. For nothing hidden will not become manifest, and nothing covered will remain without being uncovered." The Gospel of Thomas

09-07-2004, 01:15 PM	#14 (permalink)
Lebell Cracking the Whip Location: Sexymama's arms...	There might have been a good thread here. Locked. __________________ "Of all tyrannies, a tyranny exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It may be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end, for they do so with the approval of their own conscience." – C. S. Lewis The ONLY sponsors we have are YOU! Please Donate!