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Lebell 06-19-2004 02:55 PM

The REAL reason for the war (from their own mouths)
 
What follows is part of a translation of an Al Quaeda manual, explaining, step by step, who they should kill, in what order of importance and why.

Notably, religion plays a large part in it in addition to oil.

Also notably, Canadians are a big target, as are the French. This in spite of their being against the war in Iraq.

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CHOOSING TARGETS IN CITIES THE FOCUS OF AL BATTAR ISSUE NO. 7


TARGETS INSIDE CITIES

Types of Targets within the Cities:

1. Targets with an ideological aspect: The use of force is not recommended at the beginning of a military jihadi operation against religious ideological targets except in some cases such as:

• Christianization of pure Islamic communities, like what happened in Yemen, in Iraq, and in Saudi Arabia – specifically in Riyadh - where Bibles were recently distributed to residences. Hunting down and killing whoever is responsible for performing such an act is a good thing. These people’s identity is known to the Mujahideen, and we ask God to facilitate the task of going after them.
• Undercover spying operations under any disguise, even if it was religious. Dealing with spiritual and religious Islamic figures, even if they were spies, should be done in a way to avoid a violent reaction from Muslims who were misled by those agents. Hitting them will only glorify and make symbols out of them. May God’s anger fall upon them.
• One of the exceptions also is publicity exercised by certain religious figures such as ministers, priests and rabbis, in which they attack Islam and Muslims. An example of that is when that damned American minister cursed the prophet of God – may God enable us to kill him -, as Sayyid Nossair – may God release him from his imprisonment – killed Rabbi Kahane – may he be cursed for cursing the prophet.
• One other exception is a financial, military or moral mobilization of ideological figures (Jews and Christian) against Muslims.

(more on the website and very worthwhile reading)

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I also note that it is perfectly ok for them to proselytize to others, but the penality for doing so to them is death.

debaser 06-19-2004 04:15 PM

Actually Islam dissuades the conversion of non-muslims, not only for religious reasons, but also for more pragmatic reasons (taxation, etc.). But that is only if you take the Koran at face value, not the twisted crap these fucks pretend to follow...

OFKU0 06-19-2004 07:56 PM

Re: The REAL reason for the war (from their own mouths)
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Lebell


Also notably, Canadians are a big target, as are the French. This in spite of their being against the war in Iraq

There was parliamentary debate and yes the decision in Canada was to side with the UN not to go to war citing lack of proof.

It appears, in the end it doesn't matter since we all are apparent targets. That's not new. The people of Bali would agree.

Terrorism is extreme in every facet. Often too is the dialogue that rebukes it. I've read many articles by Ms. Katz and it is my determination she is, like others (notably Daniel Pipes) someone whose own bias (mainly pro-Isreali) is so over the top it actually caricatures the facts to the point of super fantastical.

This isn't to say terrorism is an unqualified or artificial threat. But at times the rhetoric regarding such is.

hammer4all 06-20-2004 12:31 PM

Those are not "reasons," they are supposed targets.

If you want "REAL reasons," I suggest this lecture. Warning: It might make you think...

Lebell 06-20-2004 01:10 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by hammer4all
Those are not "reasons," they are supposed targets.

If you want "REAL reasons," I suggest this lecture. Warning: It might make you think...


There are reasons listed.

Also, the original article has much more, if you didn't follow the link.

filtherton 06-20-2004 07:18 PM

Which war? The war on terrorism or the war in iraq?


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