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Peetster · 05-05-2004, 04:38 AM

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Originally posted by Bookman
I hear Orwell talking right now...

Peetster · 05-05-2004, 06:37 PM

Please accept my apology to those of you that were debating this topic with civility and grace. It was not my intent to hijack this thread. I came down on one individual that didn't understand civil debate.

I've dealt with that individual. Please, carry on.

Peetster · 05-05-2004, 06:41 PM

For those that missed it, I supplied some cheese to go with that whine.

Carry on

Zeld2.0 · 05-05-2004, 10:49 PM

mmmm cheese

Bookman · 05-06-2004, 04:45 AM

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Originally posted by Peetster
For those that missed it, I supplied some cheese to go with that whine.

Carry on

Ban me if you must and most probably will but I must state taht we spoke on the PM as you directed me to yet you insist on throwing little jabs after the private messages....?

Bookman · 05-06-2004, 04:47 AM

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Originally posted by Bookman
What would be the case if other countries had bases all throughout the USA?

I am accused of skating and not answering questions. Here is one not addressed of my own.

Bookman · 05-06-2004, 04:47 AM

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Originally posted by Bookman
They trashed Afghanistan...guess what happened over there after that?
Now with the FUNDAMENTALLY FREAKED TALIBAN out...the poppy/heroin business in on FULL BLAST AGAIN.

& another one....

boatin · 05-06-2004, 10:00 AM

I apologize for an off topic post, but I have read, and reread Bookman's posts. I find them too short and too scattered to have any real meaning.

But they were civil in tone and word. I'm not sure what the problem was.

If you applied whatever standards you applied to Bookman to most of these threads, there would be a problem.

I appreciate when admins encourage us to stay on topic, to more fully explain ourselves and to encourage us to all play nice.

Cheap shots with cheese pics do not accomplish any of those things.

Bookman · 05-06-2004, 10:09 AM

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Originally posted by boatin
I apologize for an off topic post, but I have read, and reread Bookman's posts. I find them too short and too scattered to have any real meaning.

But they were civil in tone and word. I'm not sure what the problem was.

If you applied whatever standards you applied to Bookman to most of these threads, there would be a problem.

I appreciate when admins encourage us to stay on topic, to more fully explain ourselves and to encourage us to all play nice.

Cheap shots with cheese pics do not accomplish any of those things.

It is over and Pete and I discussed it privately.
I must admit that in debate in cyberland my thoughts are not the most complete.

arch13 · 05-06-2004, 01:57 PM

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Originally posted by irateplatypus
harsh economic conditions may be a reason given to these young persons to incite the rampant anti-US sentiment, but why do you suppose they are under those harsh conditions to start with? it would seem that every person in that region should being living as comfortably as anyone in the world. the oil money flow is beyond anything found elsewhere in a per-capita sense. if anything, there economies are being kept afloat by our ever-present thirst for oil. so... why is it that the world's biggest consumer of the main source of wealth for these countries is seen as it is?

to me, the answer appears to be ideological in a way that is arranged to perpetuate the social and economic orders as well. the elite in these countries are suppressing the masses and keeping the enourmous wealth to themselves. the only way they can keep this system going in an age where information can travel like it does is to create a blanket of fear of the western (democratic) world. if freedom will break their stranglehold, then it only makes sense for them to bring hate against those who promote it.

Exactly in my opinion. you and I sit on opposite ends of US politics, but here we agree.

The perpetuation of a caste based system is hardly different from European fuedal systems of old. As such, the prosperity of one requires the subjigation of another as a base of the society providing labor and or support.

MSNBC did a rather interesting artical that got farked recently about the permeation of the internet as a source of information for Arab youth (as in 12-17yrs of age) that was rather interesting. i can't find it in the fark archives, but perhaps you will have better luck.

Peetster · 05-07-2004, 05:10 PM

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Originally posted by boatin
Cheap shots with cheese pics do not accomplish any of those things.

Yeah, it was a cheap shot. In my zeal to keep the conversation on-topic I overstepped. I apologized to Bookman in private.

My posts are out there like everyone elses. I'm not going to edit them or delete them because I don't like the way things turn out.

Sorry again for another off-topic post.

05-05-2004, 06:37 PM	#42 (permalink)
Peetster Right Now Location: Home	Please accept my apology to those of you that were debating this topic with civility and grace. It was not my intent to hijack this thread. I came down on one individual that didn't understand civil debate. I've dealt with that individual. Please, carry on.

05-05-2004, 06:41 PM	#43 (permalink)
Peetster Right Now Location: Home	For those that missed it, I supplied some cheese to go with that whine. Carry on

05-05-2004, 10:49 PM	#44 (permalink)
Zeld2.0 Cherry-pickin' devil's advocate Location: Los Angeles	mmmm cheese

05-06-2004, 10:00 AM	#48 (permalink)
boatin Psycho	I apologize for an off topic post, but I have read, and reread Bookman's posts. I find them too short and too scattered to have any real meaning. But they were civil in tone and word. I'm not sure what the problem was. If you applied whatever standards you applied to Bookman to most of these threads, there would be a problem. I appreciate when admins encourage us to stay on topic, to more fully explain ourselves and to encourage us to all play nice. Cheap shots with cheese pics do not accomplish any of those things.