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Superbelt · 04-14-2004, 08:18 AM

http://www.nytimes.com/2004/04/14/politics/14ENVO.html

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Negroponte Is Expected to Be Picked for Iraq Post

WASHINGTON, April 13 — President Bush is expected to select John D. Negroponte, a veteran diplomat and current United States representative to the United Nations, as ambassador to Iraq once sovereignty is given over to a government in Baghdad on June 30, administration officials said Tuesday.

Mr. Negroponte's career dates to the war in Vietnam in the 1960's and the turmoil of Central America in the 1980's.

Confirmed more easily than expected as ambassador to the United Nations shortly after the attacks of Sept. 11, 2001, he had been questioned by some for his performance on human rights issues as ambassador in Honduras during the civil war in neighboring Nicaragua.

Now he is nominated for another crucial position in another chaotic place. After the transfer in Iraq, the American occupation authority is to be transformed into the United States' largest embassy, employing at least 3,000 people.

The ambassador will report to Secretary of State Colin L. Powell.

Under the administration's plans, the American military — which is expected to remain in Iraq after the transfer of power — will remain under the command of the Defense Department, not the ambassador. Iraqi forces are to report to American military commanders.

The likely choice of Mr. Negroponte is being seen as a victory for Mr. Powell, who argued that the job required a candidate with diplomatic experience, bureacratic skills and experience dealing with military commanders, as well as someone who could quickly be confirmed, administration officials said.

Other possible names that officials said had been under consideration by Mr. Bush, including Paul D. Wolfowitz, the deputy secretary of defense, and Robert Blackwill, director of Iraq policy at the White House, were said by administration officials to be less likely to win quick confirmation.

But the selection of Mr. Negroponte fills in only one of many blanks in the administration's Iraq policies. Administration officials concede that they are not even close to an agreement on what sort of government is to take power on June 30.

The process of choosing a government has been overseen by L. Paul Bremer III, administrator of the American occupation in Iraq since the end of major combat last spring.

For the past two weeks, Mr. Blackwill has been in Iraq working with Lakhdar Brahimi, the United Nations envoy, to try to cobble together an agreement on a future Iraqi government, with no evident success.

But now, the administration's priority has shifted to calming the violence so that work can resume on enlisting Shiite and Sunni support — some of it from elements that have carried out violence in the last week — for a political solution to the chaos.

Mr. Negroponte is widely regarded as a cool-headed professional who has been involved in sensitive matters in the past. He is experienced in dealing with European and Arab diplomats and top officials at the United Nations, whose support is considered crucial for the stability of Iraq.

In the early 1980's, when he was ambassador to Honduras, it became a springboard and a refuge for the Nicaraguan contras as they fought the leftist Sandinista government.

When he was questioned as the nominee to become United Nations ambassador about whether he had deliberately turned a blind eye to human rights abuses in Honduras to advance the Reagan administration's policies, he denied it.

"I do not believe then, nor do I believe now, that these abuses were part of a deliberate government policy," he said. "To this day, I do not believe that death squads were operating in Honduras."

John Negroponte.
Currently US Ambassador to the UN. He is best known for his Ambassadorship to Honduras. He had his post from 1981 to 1985. He supported and executed Us-Sponsored policy which was in violation of human rights and international law.

He supervised the El Aguacate air base where US trained Nicaraguan Contras in the Eightys. It was also used as a detention and torture center.
Exevations discovered the corpses of 185 people in 2001. Including two americans.

Also remember Battalion 316, trained by the CIA and Argentine military. They kidnapped, tortured and killed hundreds. Negroponte knew of the violations yet continued to associate with them. And he lied to Congress.

Info on this tremendous ass
More on him
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Google Search for John Negroponte

Ok. Why? Does Bush pick the most absurd individuals for positions just so he can watch the world let out their collective "What the Fuck?"
This guy deserves a jail cell, if not rats eating him alive. Not ambassadorships to the UN and Iraq.

For the people who like Bush, please vote the man out for nothing less than the heinous people he nominates to important positions, like this. It's not like we haven't given the world reason to distrust our intentions in Iraq as it is.

Where is the sanity?

Mojo_PeiPei · 04-14-2004, 08:24 AM

Sometimes to do the job right, you got to make a deal with the devil.

But maybe this isn't the guy we want representing us in the U.N.

Superbelt · 04-14-2004, 08:33 AM

I have said this about Uzbek, and I will say it again here. I wish you knew what it was like to grow up in Nicaragua in the early 80's. You would positively have not said that if you did.
Nicaragua was an illegal action, specifically banned by Congress even, that resulted in giving Reagan the distinction of having the administration with the most convinction in it's staff.
All of the Iran/Contra convictions were conveniently overturned by Bush I when he took office though.

Doing a job right NEVER requires rape and murder squads who run rampant through villages destroying everything they see.
This guy is going to hell. No gray area about that.

And this is DEFINETLEY not the guy we want representing us in Iraq. I hope there are enough sensible senators to deny his appointment.

Pacifier · 04-14-2004, 08:49 AM

He is not the only one of these old F*cks who is back in action. If I remember correctly Poindexter, the one they used as a scapegoat back then, is also back (actually he is back for some time now)

Superbelt · 04-14-2004, 08:53 AM

And Bush initially appointed Kissinger to head the 9/11 panel before the firestorm of criticisms forced him to back down on that one.
Kissinger, a man who has to take all his vacations on US Soil because if he steps out he goes on trial as an international war criminal.

Not Normal · 04-14-2004, 10:47 AM

If you want to stop terrorism, you have to stop being a terrorist...Bush just doesn't understand this simple fact.

Publius · 04-14-2004, 10:13 PM

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Originally posted by Superbelt
http://www.nytimes.com/2004/04/14/politics/14ENVO.html

For the people who like Bush, please vote the man out for nothing less than the heinous people he nominates to important positions, like this. It's not like we haven't given the world reason to distrust our intentions in Iraq as it is.

Here here

tecoyah · 04-15-2004, 02:42 AM

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Originally posted by Mojo_PeiPei
Sometimes to do the job right, you got to make a deal with the devil.

But maybe this isn't the guy we want representing us in the U.N.

Er...Uh, didn't we already make a deal with Sadam....I mean Satan. We all know how well that one worked.

iccky · 04-15-2004, 06:32 AM

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Originally posted by tecoyah
Er...Uh, didn't we already make a deal with Sadam....I mean Satan. We all know how well that one worked.

... and at the same time a very good point.

Problem with making a deal with Satan is that he is, well, satan, and will have no problem stabbing you in the back. Besides the pure evil bit and all.

I guess so many neocons were involved in Central American mess its hard to staff a neocon forigen policy team without picking a few human rights abusers. You do wonder if Bush just assumes that people forget the scandals of the past. It'd be kind of like Kerry getting elected and then picking Lewinsky as his personal secretary. Except of course, Monica never killed or raped anyone.

MSD · 04-20-2004, 09:24 PM

For those like me without NYT subscriptions, what exactly does the article say? I assume that this guy has been appointed to some position other than ambassador to the UN, but without following links, it isn't clear.

Superbelt · 04-21-2004, 03:35 AM

Sorry bout that, I automatically log on, so I didn't even think about that. I edited the title post to include the text of the article. Registration to read their online content is free though.

04-14-2004, 08:24 AM	#2 (permalink)
Mojo_PeiPei Kiss of Death Location: Perpetual wind and sorrow	Sometimes to do the job right, you got to make a deal with the devil. But maybe this isn't the guy we want representing us in the U.N. __________________ To win a war you must serve no master but your ambition.

04-14-2004, 08:33 AM	#3 (permalink)
Superbelt This vexes me. I am terribly vexed. Location: Grantville, Pa	I have said this about Uzbek, and I will say it again here. I wish you knew what it was like to grow up in Nicaragua in the early 80's. You would positively have not said that if you did. Nicaragua was an illegal action, specifically banned by Congress even, that resulted in giving Reagan the distinction of having the administration with the most convinction in it's staff. All of the Iran/Contra convictions were conveniently overturned by Bush I when he took office though. Doing a job right NEVER requires rape and murder squads who run rampant through villages destroying everything they see. This guy is going to hell. No gray area about that. And this is DEFINETLEY not the guy we want representing us in Iraq. I hope there are enough sensible senators to deny his appointment. Last edited by Superbelt; 04-14-2004 at 08:36 AM..

04-14-2004, 08:49 AM	#4 (permalink)
Pacifier undead Location: Duisburg, Germany	He is not the only one of these old Fcks who is back in action. If I remember correctly Poindexter, the one they used as a scapegoat back then, is also back (actually he is back for some time now) __________________ "It seems to me that the idea of a personal God is an anthropological concept which I cannot take seriously. I also cannot imagine some will or goal outside the human sphere. Science has been charged with undermining morality, but the charge is unjust. A man's ethical behavior should be based effectually on sympathy, education, and social ties and needs; no religious basis is necessary. Man would indeed be in a poor way if he had to be restrained by fear of punishment and hope of reward after death — Albert Einstein Last edited by Pacifier; 04-14-2004 at 08:54 AM..*

04-14-2004, 08:53 AM	#5 (permalink)
Superbelt This vexes me. I am terribly vexed. Location: Grantville, Pa	And Bush initially appointed Kissinger to head the 9/11 panel before the firestorm of criticisms forced him to back down on that one. Kissinger, a man who has to take all his vacations on US Soil because if he steps out he goes on trial as an international war criminal.

04-14-2004, 10:47 AM	#6 (permalink)
Not Normal Psycho Location: NY, USA	If you want to stop terrorism, you have to stop being a terrorist...Bush just doesn't understand this simple fact.

04-20-2004, 09:24 PM	#10 (permalink)
MSD The sky calls to us ... Super Moderator Location: CT	For those like me without NYT subscriptions, what exactly does the article say? I assume that this guy has been appointed to some position other than ambassador to the UN, but without following links, it isn't clear.

04-21-2004, 03:35 AM	#11 (permalink)
Superbelt This vexes me. I am terribly vexed. Location: Grantville, Pa	Sorry bout that, I automatically log on, so I didn't even think about that. I edited the title post to include the text of the article. Registration to read their online content is free though.