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Nomad 04-13-2004 06:51 AM

A very powerful flash movie
 
Warning - Some shocking Images

One Year

From Bushflash.com

Mojo_PeiPei 04-13-2004 07:18 AM

So whats the point? War is violent, gruesome, and ugly? Or are you further driving home the fact that Bush is a war mongering baby killer? Your lack of a post leaves this thread at a lose for discussion.

seretogis 04-13-2004 07:19 AM

It's all our fault, we are such horrible people.

Is that what you want to hear?

irateplatypus 04-13-2004 08:04 AM

while keeping all respect and solemnity for the people in the pictures...

i thought the actual presentation was trite and manipulative. i mean seriously, what is the point? no context is given for any of the pictures. with few exceptions, the viewer has no idea who or what was going on in any of them.

if you hate bush, i'm sure this is somewhat moving/entertaining because it feeds your pre-exisiting notions. just don't confuse reinforcement of an ideology with anything more cerebral, logical, or propositional.

oh, i must say though... the music did have its charm.

Stompy 04-13-2004 08:50 AM

I'm not a fan of Bush, but even I thought that video was unnecessary and over the top.

I'm sure you would've seen the same type of images during Clinton's campaign in Kosovo. No one said war is pretty!

Love the choice of music, too, hehe. It reminds me of that video that someone made after 9/11, the guy sitting in front of the computer screen with the headphones listening to Sarah McLachlan or Enya, and crying his eyes out as he watched the WTC fall. Not that the event was funny, but... that the guy tried to look all intellectual and caring, kinda overdone and cheesy. Laugh and a half that was.

I agree w/ irateplatypus.. very manipulative and lacking. Kinda just a "song and some images with 'Bush is bad' message."

Seaver 04-13-2004 09:44 AM

Yes, war is horrible. No one ever denied that.

...

But those images prove to me why we should be there.

How about throwing pictures of Saddams torture rooms, how about his mass graves, his favorite acid baths.... Yes war is horrible, but IMO the worst thing we could do to the Iraqis was to leave them to that horrible beast.

reconmike 04-13-2004 09:59 AM

Powerful how?

War is ugly?

At this moment I am looking for war footage from the Dem war days, I am sure I can make just as powerful flash.

I also looked over the other things on the site, a wee bit biased wouldn't you say?

I really got a good laugh out of the photo of Gore and the heading under it saying president-in-exile. (still lmao).

BigGov 04-13-2004 10:07 AM

And it was powerful because...

You want powerful? How about a picture of the Atlantic Ocean turned red from the amount of blood in it? How about pictures from the holocaust? These are child's play in compairison.

I have respect for the people who fought and died for something. I hold absolutely zero respect for some loser sitting at home, plucking pictures off the internet, putting them all together, and posting some worthless political message in a flash.

This is what happens in war.

Speaking of which, how come it never shows any pictures of the WTC? Or Saddam's mass graves?

If I knew how to make a flash movie I'd be moved to make one right now. I'd show pictures of the WTC and Pentagon being rammed by the airplanes. I'd show Saddam and his terror across Iraq, then I'd finish off with the people in Iraq celebrating in Iraq, greeting us with open arms when we rolled into Baghdad. Would you rather have a president that responds, or a president that does nothing?

Lebell 04-13-2004 11:43 AM



This is a good example of why comment should be included in your post.

Why is this posted? To show the horror of war? To indict Bush (based on the website)?

As it is, it is over halfway to a lock for trolling since it is doing nothing to add to Tilted Politics.


Charlatan 04-13-2004 12:07 PM

In the end, the pictures tell us little we don't already know.

It is a very amateur peice of agit-prop.

(not that I disagree with the sentiment)

debaser 04-13-2004 12:10 PM

Quote:

Would you rather have a president that responds, or a president that does nothing?
How about a president who thinks?

I still have not heard a good reason why we are actually there. I fully supported this war when we had a reason, now that reason has been shown false.

I am heading back to that quagmire for the second time this fall, and I would feel much better about if anyone could convince me that what we are doing there has any merit what-so-ever.

EDIT - I wrote this under the assumtion that the original poster wanted to inspire debate regarding the president. If that was not the case, please disregard.

skier 04-13-2004 12:23 PM

oh, the children! PLEASE, think of the children!!!

Nad Adam 04-13-2004 03:33 PM

War? What are you talking about, I have a vage memory of someone telling me the war ending about a year ago.

Evil Milkman 04-13-2004 03:54 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Nad Adam
War? What are you talking about, I have a vage memory of someone telling me the war ending about a year ago.
Indeed, the problem now is that the war still isn't over.

seretogis 04-13-2004 04:09 PM

http://www.welovetheiraqiinformation...7-minister.jpg
"There are no American infidels in Baghdad. Never!"

Kadath 04-13-2004 04:28 PM

People need to learn from the fucking Wayside board. Use the god damn back button if you don't have anything useful to say. If you think the thread is trolling, if you think it serves no purpose, ignore it. Show you think it unworthy of your attention by overlooking it, not by telling everyone how it's beneath you.

analog 04-14-2004 02:54 PM

First strike for this thread was lack of commentary for discussion to posted material.

Second strike was for trolling.

Third strike for this thread is degrading into sarcastic jibes and random off-topic remarks. Also, no one's touched it in over a day. It presented no value to the Politics forum, as stated by Lebel. It's dead.


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