Bush's campaign ad against Kerry, a new low? - Page 2 - Tilted Forum Project Discussion Community

Superbelt · 04-08-2004, 04:21 AM

Well, try this one of theirs.
http://www.clubforgrowth.com/video/s...a04f655f3e1722

This is one where they do a little bit of inter-party fighting.
It's an attack ad against Republican Senator Arlen Specter. He doesn't vote quite conservative enough for them so they are endorsing ultra-right wing candidate Pat Toomey. And this guy is way out there. Out in Alan Keyes/Roy Moore land.

On a side note, can anyone help me with combining a picture with a link? Ya know, so that if you click the picture you get directed somewhere?

onetime2 · 04-08-2004, 05:00 AM

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Originally posted by Superbelt
Well, try this one of theirs.

Unfortunately I am media player impaired on this work computer. 90% of all movies are unwatchable and my firewall/administrator access levels don't allow me to change them.

Then, at home, I am dial up impaired since no high speed connections are available. One of these days I will fully join the connected community, but today is not that day.

It's a shame, sounds like these ads would be amusing.

Sparhawk · 04-08-2004, 08:16 AM

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Originally posted by Superbelt

On a side note, can anyone help me with combining a picture with a link? Ya know, so that if you click the picture you get directed somewhere?

Just close the url tag after you open and close the img tag, it looks like this:

Code:

<a href=http://www.clubforgrowth.com/video/specter-jack.wmv?PHPSESSID=ae3f08db30305ab749a04f655f3e1722>
<img src=http://www.clubforgrowth.com/graphics/specter-jack-video-image.jpg></a>

<a href=http://www.clubforgrowth.com/video/specter-jack.wmv?PHPSESSID=ae3f08db30305ab749a04f655f3e1722>
<img src=http://www.clubforgrowth.com/graphics/specter-jack-video-image.jpg></a>

edit:ARgghhh, can't get stupid "code" section to work, to hell with it.

Superbelt · 04-08-2004, 08:24 AM

Can you edit one of those and change the [/img] and [/url] to [!img] and [!url], so I can understand it easier

queedo · 04-13-2004, 11:02 PM

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Originally posted by KellyC
So, I was watching MSNBC this morning and I saw another one of Bush's ad against Kerry. Opening is the same, "I'm President Bush, and I approved this message" Then the ad suddenly go black and white. Attacking Kerry and his vote to raise tax on gasoline. The ad showed a long bicycle with about 10-15 guys paddling the bike, then switched to a guy pushing the car, and to a guy emptying his pockets inside because the have no more money to pay for gas (chronologically incorrect). During the whole ad, stupid music you'd hear in black and white movies plays in the background and the animation is presented in a cartoon-like manner.

This really piss me off. Of all the campaign ads I see, this has got to be the worst one, its not even political any more, its just plain petty.

Kerry in petty and he has no idea what he is doing, he simply has the illusion of looking good for now untill he really has to prove his big ideas. We shall see who looks petty when the presidential debates start!

ChickenNinja · 04-17-2004, 12:03 AM

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Originally posted by pan6467
Every other country out there pays more in gas than the US. Most tax gas far higher than we do because they have better environmental policies. My worry is that we are supposedly the greatest nation on Earth and we are showing people having a hard time affording gas because of a tax? Tells me more about the wages paid in this country and the economic situation as a whole.

Go to TorontoGasPrices.com. It's the Canadian version of GasBuddy.com. The most you can pay for gas (I'll assume unleaded) is $0.80 and 3 tenths of a cent. That's about 60 American cents. (59.7) Tell me again every other country is paying more for gas, I'll believe you, honest.

The country closest to us geographically and mentally (primarily geographically) pays at most about a third of our national average for gas. [edit] Upon further research, our national average for regular is $1.816. They pay at most less than a third of our national average.

Japan, on the other hand, is paying about $3.60/gallon (103 yen/liter if you want to check the math). And their government increased it by 3 yen to get that. Supply and demand isn't causing it. Taxes are.

ChickenNinja · 04-17-2004, 12:11 AM

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Originally posted by Superbelt
On a side note, can anyone help me with combining a picture with a link? Ya know, so that if you click the picture you get directed somewhere?

(url=inserturl.com)(img)imageurl(/img)(/url)

smooth · 04-17-2004, 12:21 AM

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Originally posted by ChickenNinja
Go to TorontoGasPrices.com. It's the Canadian version of GasBuddy.com. The most you can pay for gas (I'll assume unleaded) is $0.80 and 3 tenths of a cent. That's about 60 American cents. (59.7) Tell me again every other country is paying more for gas, I'll believe you, honest.

Dude, you better ask a Canadian. Last time I was up there that price was per liter.

BTW, on the first page of the site you posted, there is a pie chart of the gas price--44% of it is tax.

Kadath · 04-17-2004, 05:33 AM

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Originally posted by smooth
Dude, you better ask a Canadian. Last time I was up there that price was per liter.

Oh, snap. 60 cents*3.7854 = $2.27/gallon (US)

Boo · 04-17-2004, 09:27 AM

I paid liter prices up the ALCAN. The wallet was very light after paying .93 a liter in the YT while pulling 6800 lbs.

IMO - Politicians are all crooked assholes. Kerry isn't any more honest or less honest than Bush. The adds just further convince me.

smooth · 04-18-2004, 02:32 AM

Man it's really getting low now...

New Negative Campaign Ads Blast Voters Directly

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WASHINGTON, DC—In the latest round of political mudslinging, both John Kerry's and George W. Bush's election committees have replaced ads that focus on their opponents' shortcomings with ads that personally insult the voting public.

"The Bush people initiated this volley of negative ads, but we won't be lured into a reactive campaign against the Republicans," Kerry campaign manager Mary Beth Cahill said Monday. "It's time to redirect the cheap name-calling away from Bush and toward those Americans who might be idiotic enough to vote for him."

A controversial 30-second TV spot for Kerry that aired throughout the Midwest Monday blamed the country's ills not on Bush's policies, but on the "sheer stupidity" of America's voters.

"In the past four years, America's national debt has reached an all-time high," the ad's narrator said. "And who's responsible? You are. You're sitting there eating a big bowl of Fritos, watching TV, and getting fatter as the country goes to hell. You ought to be ashamed of yourself."

Over a series of images of America's senior citizens, the narrator of another 30-second spot says, "The Medicare drug bill is a triumph of right-wing ideology masquerading as moderate reform. The pharmaceutical-drug and insurance industries are tickled pink. Guess who's paying for it? You. Congratulations, moron. I'm John Kerry and I approved this message."

The Bush-Cheney 2004 camp recently began airing an anti-voter ad in 20 major urban areas nationwide.

"Are you going to vote for a candidate whose campaign promises would cost America $1.9 trillion over the next decade?" the ad asks. "Of course you aren't. You aren't going to vote at all. In the last election, half of you didn't even show up. So, on Nov. 2, just spend the day right there at your dead-end office job, talking to your coworkers about your new sweater and e-mailing your friends photos of your stupid 2-year-old daughter you shouldn't have had."

The ad concludes: "You make me sick."

Both ad campaigns met with cries of outrage from viewers in all demographic groups, and were therefore deemed successful.

"I don't pay my taxes so some suit in Washington can get on national television and call me a clown," said Bobbie Lee, a 35-year-old mechanic from Detroit. "Those Kerry ads piss me off so bad. So what if my teeth are stained? So what if I do wear sweatsocks? Everyone I show the videotape to gets just as mad. Just who does Kerry think he is? Before last week, I didn't even know his name."

"That Bush ad said that I should wake up to the fact that I'm trapped in a loveless marriage," said 29-year-old Kathlene Richmond, an account executive from West Virginia. "But the Republicans don't understand Larry. He's just not very communicative. You don't think the GOP is right, do you?"

Based on the success of the TV ads, both campaigns have announced plans to attack voters through other media, as well.

New direct-mail campaigns will solicit contributions with such slogans as "Fork over some of your paycheck to Kerry. Or are you too cheap?" and "One in 25 Americans donated money to a national political campaign in 2003. One in three Americans subscribed to cable television. Pathetic."

Above: A series of Bush re-election campaign ads blasting the American public.

One Bush ad specifically targets homeowners.

"Do you pay property taxes?" the ad asks. "On that shack? Jesus, why don't you fix that place up a little bit? Have some pride. It's filthy. I don't even want to know how long it's been since you last vacuumed, much less painted. You couldn't pay George W. Bush and Dick Cheney a billion dollars to live in that dirty, disgusting, rundown rat-trap."

Although the ads have angered voters, Charles Wayne, a professor of political science at Georgetown University, called them "a refreshing shift toward more honesty in the political process."

"Emotionally manipulative attack ads obscure the candidates' real positions and insult the intelligence of America's voters," Wayne said. "The fact that the major political powers are voicing their disdain for the public shows they are no longer hiding behind empty rhetoric. I see that as a positive step."

Campaign ads containing the slogans "Hey, dumbass—Kerry For President" and "Vote Bush in November, all you stupid shitheads" are slated to appear in 50 major newspapers Friday.

tecoyah · 04-18-2004, 03:19 AM

As funny as the above Ads are....there is a halo of truth to some of it. I have pondered the limited mentality of my fellow Americans on more than a few occasions, and generally ended up frustrated and dissapointed. The beauty of our democratic nation has always been the power placed in the hands of ordinary people through representation, but what happens when the population becomes too lazy to even attempt to understand the world around them.
We, as a people, have been responsible for some relatively ignorant descisions in the recent past, and this is regrettable but expected. The problem I see is a failure to learn from these mistakes and correct our system of government. But how can the majority correct mistakes that they are totally unaware of. The negative Ads are just an example of failed politics in action, as it takes away from true education of the masses, and focus is placed on the past, virtually ignoring the possibilities of the future.

It would be refreshing and uplifting to see these guys constructively talk about plans for making our lives better, rather than making an opponents life worse.

Kadath · 04-19-2004, 04:40 AM

Smooth, it's been my experience that you need to say articles are from The Onion or people will use them as if they were from a non-satire news source. Sad, but true.

tecoyah · 04-19-2004, 04:51 AM

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Originally posted by Kadath
Smooth, it's been my experience that you need to say articles are from The Onion or people will use them as if they were from a non-satire news source. Sad, but true.

I was thinking the same thing....but had hoped everyone realized this was fiction. If indeed I was wrong......"oh the humanity".

Paq · 04-19-2004, 09:59 AM

ya know..in some ways, i'd LOVE to see ads like that aired..just a few times in a few places

that would be soo funny, much better than "hi, vote for me bc this guy sucks, just don't ask why I suck just as much"

assilem · 04-21-2004, 04:41 PM

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Originally posted by Superbelt
I'm getting sick of the garbage Bush is putting out as well. So I started a game of it. For every Bush ad I see, I contribute another 5 bucks to kerry or Joe Hoeffel for US Senate (Pa) Or a number of other candidates I want to support.
I just gave Kerry another 50 yesterday.

Will you be doing the same when you start seeing negative Kerry ads? Just wondering if we are going to be fair about it? I am sure it will get pretty muddy on both sides.

04-17-2004, 09:27 AM	#50 (permalink)
Boo Leave me alone! Location: Alaska, USA	I paid liter prices up the ALCAN. The wallet was very light after paying .93 a liter in the YT while pulling 6800 lbs. IMO - Politicians are all crooked assholes. Kerry isn't any more honest or less honest than Bush. The adds just further convince me. __________________ Back button again, I must be getting old.

04-18-2004, 03:19 AM	#52 (permalink)
tecoyah Illusionary	As funny as the above Ads are....there is a halo of truth to some of it. I have pondered the limited mentality of my fellow Americans on more than a few occasions, and generally ended up frustrated and dissapointed. The beauty of our democratic nation has always been the power placed in the hands of ordinary people through representation, but what happens when the population becomes too lazy to even attempt to understand the world around them. We, as a people, have been responsible for some relatively ignorant descisions in the recent past, and this is regrettable but expected. The problem I see is a failure to learn from these mistakes and correct our system of government. But how can the majority correct mistakes that they are totally unaware of. The negative Ads are just an example of failed politics in action, as it takes away from true education of the masses, and focus is placed on the past, virtually ignoring the possibilities of the future. It would be refreshing and uplifting to see these guys constructively talk about plans for making our lives better, rather than making an opponents life worse. __________________ Holding onto anger is like grasping a hot coal with the intent of throwing it at someone else; you are the one who gets burned. - Buddha

04-19-2004, 04:40 AM	#53 (permalink)
Kadath Muffled Location: Camazotz	Smooth, it's been my experience that you need to say articles are from The Onion or people will use them as if they were from a non-satire news source. Sad, but true. __________________ it's quiet in here

04-19-2004, 09:59 AM	#55 (permalink)
Paq Junkie Location: South Carolina	ya know..in some ways, i'd LOVE to see ads like that aired..just a few times in a few places that would be soo funny, much better than "hi, vote for me bc this guy sucks, just don't ask why I suck just as much" __________________ Live. Chris

04-08-2004, 04:21 AM	#41 (permalink)
Superbelt This vexes me. I am terribly vexed. Location: Grantville, Pa	Well, try this one of theirs. http://www.clubforgrowth.com/video/s...a04f655f3e1722 This is one where they do a little bit of inter-party fighting. It's an attack ad against Republican Senator Arlen Specter. He doesn't vote quite conservative enough for them so they are endorsing ultra-right wing candidate Pat Toomey. And this guy is way out there. Out in Alan Keyes/Roy Moore land. On a side note, can anyone help me with combining a picture with a link? Ya know, so that if you click the picture you get directed somewhere?

04-08-2004, 08:24 AM	#44 (permalink)
Superbelt This vexes me. I am terribly vexed. Location: Grantville, Pa	Can you edit one of those and change the [/img] and [/url] to [!img] and [!url], so I can understand it easier