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Old 02-08-2004, 08:06 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Bush, will he survive debates?

How do you think Bush will do in debates once they start. It is no secret that Bush hates fielding questions. He rarely holds press conferences and when he does he usually gets questions in advance. Do you think he will do well in the debates with very little practice with thinking on your feat? In addition people are going to ask the questions he has avoided in the past. I am very curious to see how he will do.

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Old 02-08-2004, 08:13 AM   #2 (permalink)
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It is hard for him, I think in the past his misunderstanding and misuse of words seemed to people almost endearing, but now the mood has changed, and he is going to really struggle to joke his way out of some of the questions he will be asked.

The war has divided America, and I feel there is going to be a backlash against Bush and everything he represents - privalege, corporate America, financial scandals, cutting welfare to fund huge military expansion... the American people, I feel, will reject Bush.
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Old 02-08-2004, 09:51 AM   #3 (permalink)
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If Bush sticks to his guns and doesn't try to impress anybody he'll do fine.
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Old 02-08-2004, 10:03 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Old 02-08-2004, 10:50 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Bush should not participate in debates against Kerry, its that simple. It is always a disadvantage to the incumbent to debate because it puts the incumbent on the defensive, ALWAYS, whether the President has done a great job or a bad one.

Bush is also not a great speaker as we all know and he jumbles his words sometimes. Dont know much about Kerry's public speaking skills.
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Old 02-08-2004, 11:39 AM   #6 (permalink)
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Bush is also not a great speaker as we all know and he jumbles his words sometimes. Dont know much about Kerry's public speaking skills.
Kerry always has other people introduce him, with a big fanfare. The reason is Kerry is a horrible speaker, far more wooden then Gore. Bush has nothing to fear with looking bad debating Kerry.
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Old 02-08-2004, 12:03 PM   #7 (permalink)
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I would be very upset if Bush didn't participate in debates.
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Old 02-08-2004, 12:27 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Bush will do fine, I'm sure. Most likely, the Democratic candidate will get nasty / hateful and that will drive more undecided votes to Bush, in sympathy.
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Old 02-08-2004, 12:35 PM   #9 (permalink)
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It will be very interesting to watch Bush in a debate. He has a difficult time thinking on his feet. I doubt Kerry will give him much trouble, but could you imagine Dean debating against Bush? THAT would be hilarious !
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Old 02-08-2004, 12:37 PM   #10 (permalink)
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It will be very interesting to watch Bush in a debate. He has a difficult time thinking on his feet. I doubt Kerry will give him much trouble, but could you imagine Dean debating against Bush? THAT would be hilarious !
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Old 02-08-2004, 12:39 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Bush will get destroyed.

Pure and simple.

I am looking forward to it. You wouldn't be able to script this kind of comedy.
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Old 02-08-2004, 01:19 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Bush will get destroyed.

Pure and simple.

I am looking forward to it. You wouldn't be able to script this kind of comedy.
Thats what they said in 2000, instead it was Al Gore the 'experianced' debater who looked bad.
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Old 02-08-2004, 01:33 PM   #13 (permalink)
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Bush is actually a better debater than people think, and he has a much better grasp on the issues than he did in 2000. He has an odd (to me) sort of appeal that makes people like him. He doesn't come across as superior or high-handed. I look forward to the debates. If Kerry is the nominee, don't sell him short. His debates against William Weld in 1996 were tough, thoughtful and vitally important to his reelection. Although they were a bit repetative on issues. He can loosen up. If the nominee is Edwards, I think Bush will have his hands full. Edwards is a great speaker and can really think on his feet. I have no idea about Clark, but he has not impressed so far. Dean would be interesting because you never know what is going to come out of his mouth - he could score some great points and then jam his foot halfway down his throat on the next question.
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Old 02-08-2004, 03:40 PM   #14 (permalink)
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It's rather sad that the very fact that Bush is so average comes off as a plus to many americans. Personally, I'm of the opinion that our president should be a very exceptional individual.
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Old 02-08-2004, 03:45 PM   #15 (permalink)
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We want someone who we can relate too, who we "think" understands us. What turns people off is smug smarmy bastards.
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Old 02-08-2004, 04:18 PM   #16 (permalink)
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Thats what they said in 2000, instead it was Al Gore the 'experianced'[sic] debater who looked bad.
It's all about expectations. Since no one expects Bush to look like anything but a clown, the fact that he can string a sentence together without falling over will impress the masses. Plus stupid people see him as "just folks." It's sort of depressing.
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We want someone who we can relate too[sic], who we "think" understands us. What turns people off is smug smarmy bastards.
What I want is someone smarter and more capable than me. What turns me off is a moron.
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Old 02-08-2004, 04:25 PM   #17 (permalink)
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At debates:
Kerry > Bush
As we all know, Bush is not quick on his feet in interviews, debates, and at fielding questions. But Kerry is very comfortable in the role.

At speeches:
Bush > Kerry
Kerry is not a great speaker, he seems very detached and aloof. But some of Bush's speeches have been extremely good, recall some of the post-9/11 speeches he gave.

We'll have to see what directions the campaigns take.
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Old 02-08-2004, 05:10 PM   #18 (permalink)
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What I want is someone smarter and more capable than me. What turns me off is a moron.
While you would think such a thing would be very easy to arrange, it doesn't appear that any of the democrats running are very bright.
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Old 02-08-2004, 05:43 PM   #19 (permalink)
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We want someone who we can relate too, who we "think" understands us. What turns people off is smug smarmy bastards.
You think George Bush can relate to you???

Ummm, he comes from one of the richest families in America and never worked a single solitary day in his life till he was in his 40's when daddy got him a job at an oil company (which he bankrupted.)

You think he knows what it's like to bust his ass for minimum wage??

No way. Not that Kerry or Dean know what that is like either. Gephardt does. He's the son of a milk man.

But these other clowns were born with platinum spoons in their mouths.
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Old 02-08-2004, 11:02 PM   #20 (permalink)
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No way. Not that Kerry or Dean know what that is like either. Gephardt does. He's the son of a milk man.
And ironicly a republican milkman who hated his union if you believe what the rest of his family says
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Old 02-08-2004, 11:28 PM   #21 (permalink)
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This article pretty much sums the differences... http://www.opinionjournal.com/columnists/pnoonan/
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Old 02-09-2004, 01:01 AM   #22 (permalink)
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Doubt there will be a debate between these two, unless it is one where the questions are submitted beforehand. Then they can be coached on how to answer.
All I can imagine everytime Kerry Says "There is only one thing George Bush understands, Bring it on", Bush must think, What the fuck is he talking about?
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Old 02-09-2004, 01:23 AM   #23 (permalink)
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While you would think such a thing would be very easy to arrange, it doesn't appear that any of the democrats running are very bright.
haha... in that case neither sides looking to good right now!
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Old 02-09-2004, 06:18 AM   #24 (permalink)
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Doubt there will be a debate between these two, unless it is one where the questions are submitted beforehand. Then they can be coached on how to answer.
All I can imagine everytime Kerry Says "There is only one thing George Bush understands, Bring it on", Bush must think, What the fuck is he talking about?
People expect debates these days, so I doubt either of them could say no.
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Old 02-09-2004, 06:26 AM   #25 (permalink)
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If Bush sticks to his guns and doesn't try to impress anybody he'll do fine.
He has been successfully unimpressive for years...

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Old 02-09-2004, 07:04 AM   #26 (permalink)
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While you would think such a thing would be very easy to arrange, it doesn't appear that any of the democrats running are very bright.
Aw...you said I was smarter and more capable than any of the candidates! You're the best, Ustwo.
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Old 02-09-2004, 11:34 AM   #27 (permalink)
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Doubt there will be a debate between these two, unless it is one where the questions are submitted beforehand. Then they can be coached on how to answer.
All I can imagine everytime Kerry Says "There is only one thing George Bush understands, Bring it on", Bush must think, What the fuck is he talking about?


The debates are already scheduled. The first debate will take place Sept. 30, 2004 at the University of Miami in Coral Gables, Fla., followed by a second meeting Oct. 8 at Washington University in St. Louis. The final debate is scheduled for Oct. 13 at Arizona State University in Tempe.

A debate among the major party vice presidential candidates will be held at Case Western Reserve University in Cleveland Oct. 5.

All debates will be televised nationally starting at 9 p.m. Eastern Time. (Thanks to FoxNews.com) Here is the link:

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,102396,00.html

And as far as the comment that none the Dems running are very bright, give me a break. Clark is a friggin' genus (top of his class at the Point, Rhodes Scholar) and Dean, Edwards and Kerry are all very bright. By the way I am not someone who thinks Bush is an idiot.
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Old 02-09-2004, 05:10 PM   #28 (permalink)
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Based on his performance with Russert yesterday...

-Here's the prognosis: not good.
-Really, Doc? How long have I got?
-'Til January 20th, son.

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Old 02-09-2004, 08:54 PM   #29 (permalink)
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IMO - Kerry will resort to being nasty and ultimately lose, and not just the debate. I would rather see Dean against Bush. I think it would be a closer match and better for the American people. At least it could bring up some positive dialog.
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Old 02-10-2004, 04:25 AM   #30 (permalink)
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IMO - Kerry will resort to being nasty and ultimately lose, and not just the debate. I would rather see Dean against Bush. I think it would be a closer match and better for the American people. At least it could bring up some positive dialog.
Huh? Did you mean it the other way around? Kerry and Edwards both have their own harsh criticisms of the president, but they haven't been nearly as harsh as Dean has...
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Old 02-10-2004, 09:28 AM   #31 (permalink)
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IMO - Kerry will resort to being nasty and ultimately lose, and not just the debate. I would rather see Dean against Bush. I think it would be a closer match and better for the American people. At least it could bring up some positive dialog.
I am not sure I agree. I would like to know the rational behind this. Dean has tended to be the most critical, "nasty" of the Dems. I do think this campaign will get nasty regardless of who the Dems select as their nominee, and Bush has an established history of getting down in the mud.
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Old 02-10-2004, 01:37 PM   #32 (permalink)
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It is hard for him, I think in the past his misunderstanding and misuse of words seemed to people almost endearing, but now the mood has changed, and he is going to really struggle to joke his way out of some of the questions he will be asked.

The war has divided America, and I feel there is going to be a backlash against Bush and everything he represents - privalege, corporate America, financial scandals, cutting welfare to fund huge military expansion... the American people, I feel, will reject Bush.
I work in a downtown ER...you would be shocked to see how many 20-30 year old healthy people come in with medicaid and welfare....if you ask me...it could use some belt tightning. It's to easy for people to get, and that is not what the programs were intended for. Wars always have countries divided, its a matter of opinion that you are allowed to have. Although this one was and still is favored more than it's not.
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Old 02-10-2004, 01:41 PM   #33 (permalink)
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I am not sure I agree. I would like to know the rational behind this. Dean has tended to be the most critical, "nasty" of the Dems. I do think this campaign will get nasty regardless of who the Dems select as their nominee, and Bush has an established history of getting down in the mud.
Yeah Dean's temper is scary for a man who's running for pres. Kerry will be hurt mostly by his mind changing he does so often.
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Old 02-10-2004, 02:01 PM   #34 (permalink)
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