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Old 12-30-2003, 04:18 AM   #41 (permalink)
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Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -3.23

I remember taking this before, and I used to be closer to the dalai lama.
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Old 12-31-2003, 04:50 PM   #42 (permalink)
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Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -4.03

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Old 01-03-2004, 10:26 PM   #43 (permalink)
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Economic Left/Right: -3.00
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -3.54

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Old 01-14-2004, 05:31 PM   #44 (permalink)
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Economic Left/Right: -6.62
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -8.10
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Old 01-14-2004, 06:43 PM   #45 (permalink)
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Economic Left/Right: -7.50
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -8.56

Age 18

I really should move to Norway for a year during college, just to see what a social democrat paradise is like.
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Old 01-14-2004, 07:41 PM   #46 (permalink)
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Economic Left/Right -1.50
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Old 01-15-2004, 09:58 AM   #47 (permalink)
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Pretty much a Ghandi Libertarian/Socialist. Hmmm, I've always thought of myself as more of an Anarchist (the George Woodcock variety - outgrow the need for a state, rather than overthrow it).

Some of the questions were more a question of empirical fact, rather than opinion, though.
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Old 01-16-2004, 12:43 AM   #48 (permalink)
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Location: South Carolina
Economic Left/Right: -6.50
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -7.90

age: 26

Also, be glad you pay high taxes, that generally means you make enough to be able to pay high taxes. Heck, sometimes i barely make enough to pay anything...I'd gladly move up to the bracket that pays %40-50 of their income to taxes...

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Old 01-16-2004, 01:04 PM   #49 (permalink)
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Economic Left/Right: -6.88
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -6.41

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Old 01-17-2004, 11:47 AM   #50 (permalink)
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Economic Left/Right: -5.25
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.59

Age: 28

Wow! I've only got two years left to effect a change of some five points, lest I run afoul of the Curse of Churchill!

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Old 01-17-2004, 12:10 PM   #51 (permalink)
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Economic Left/Right: -9.88
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -9.03

25
Looks like Im still the furthest left of you all!
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Old 01-17-2004, 12:34 PM   #52 (permalink)
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I think it makes you a hippie, you expect the government to give you stuff and control everyone who works but don't want it to get in the way of free love and drugs
Ustwo: I apologize in advance if the above statement was meant as a specific observation about Mr Mephisto based on your knowledge of him and/or his posting history. It reads more like a generalization about the raw numerical scores he posted, and my reply treats it as such.

Speaking solely for myself (-5.25, -5.59), I would say that your blinders must make it hard to get around.

I don't expect the government to "give me stuff" or "control everyone who works"; I do believe that there are things which are vitally important to the maintenance of a democratic society (roads, national defense, and good public schools, to name three off the top of my head), but for which no viable profit model exists. I also believe that any organization which explicitly claims 'make the most money possible' as its sole criterion for decision making (cf. publicly-traded companies) requires some sort of oversight (e.g., I don't trust them ). Despite the fact that I think capitalism is far and away the best economic model we've come up with yet, I guess this makes me a "socialist".

And as for the "drugs and free love", again your characterization misses the point. What I personally feel about drug use or premarital sex or homosexuality has nothing to do with my conviction that none of these things are any of the government's damned business. So long as a person doesn't break any laws (property crime, murder, rape, etc.), what they put in their body, or what of their body they put in other people's, should not in any way be the subject of invasive, humiliating, not to mention *costly*, government oversight and interference. I guess that makes me a "hippie", in your eyes, but I certainly disagree.
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Old 01-17-2004, 01:45 PM   #53 (permalink)
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Originally posted by Conclamo Ludus
Economic Left/Right: 1.12
Libertarian/Authoritarian: -1.54

I'm damn close to center.
I'm even closer.

Economic Left/Right: 0.0
Libertarian/Authoritarian: -.62

Never knew I was so moderate. I guess I should have made more use of the "strongly" options hehe.
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Old 01-17-2004, 09:13 PM   #54 (permalink)
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Economic Left/Right: -1.25
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -3.69

6/18/05:
Economic Left/Right: -1.13
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -4.15

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Old 01-18-2004, 11:03 PM   #55 (permalink)
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Economic Left/Right: 0.50
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -3.69

Center libertarian! And a bit to the right even! And this from a solid democrat that would like to expand government! Oh the humanity!
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Old 01-19-2004, 07:16 AM   #56 (permalink)
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good one, i'm exactly the same place as ghandi
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Old 05-10-2005, 10:43 PM   #57 (permalink)
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Economic Left/Right: -8.88
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -9.18

they say as you get older you become more right wing, and it shows Im becoming more conservative
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Old 05-11-2005, 04:21 AM   #58 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by MrSelfDestruct
But I can

Economic Left/Right: -8.38
Libertarian/Authoritarian: -6.36
Now:
Economic Left/Right: 0.63
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -6.67

Election 2004 map
Is it any wonder that I feel poorly represented in politics?

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Old 05-11-2005, 04:32 AM   #59 (permalink)
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Wow! I feel normal!

Economic Left/Right: -1.88
Libertian/Authoritarian: -3.18
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Old 05-11-2005, 04:43 AM   #60 (permalink)
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This is about where I was the last time I did this test. Not too surprised.

Economic Left/Right: -6.13
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -7.49




I find it facinating that the so-called left candidate, John Kerry is really not all that different from Bush.

I further find it interesting that Nader is truly the American alternative (he's much more in line with the political positioning of say, Northern Europe or the left Canada than anything else that is happening in the US...



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Old 05-11-2005, 07:58 AM   #61 (permalink)
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Your political compass:

Economic Left/Right: 3.25
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -2.15

Every time I take the test that's about where I get it.
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Old 05-11-2005, 09:51 AM   #62 (permalink)
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Economic Left/Right: -8.50
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.38

I was left of Ghandi. And Stalin I think : x

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Old 05-11-2005, 09:52 AM   #63 (permalink)
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I really wish there was a third axis for foreign policy beliefs, but this is a good way to make comparisons.
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Old 05-11-2005, 10:33 AM   #64 (permalink)
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Economic Left/Right: -8.38
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -6.46

near gandhi, mandela and the dalai lama...I feel i'm in good company
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Old 05-11-2005, 11:24 AM   #65 (permalink)
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Your political compass
Economic Left/Right: 0.25
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -0.36
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Old 05-11-2005, 11:27 AM   #66 (permalink)
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I want a world that doesn't justify illegal miltary action "sometimes",
doesn't try to dictate who can or cannot have an abortion, favors stockholders or "businessmen" vs. the rest of us, doesn't try to permit the wealthy to go to the "head of the line" to buy organ transplants, doesn't try to prohibit the "queers" from adopting children or from a legal union, doesn't try to dictate permissible behavior in my bedroom, doesn't believe that "those" people should keep to themselves, doesn't try to cram an "official religion" down my throat.

And for those opinions, I am branded:

Economic Left/Right: -8.13
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -8.21

go figure..............
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Old 05-11-2005, 12:48 PM   #67 (permalink)
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Economic Left/Right: 0.50
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -4.00
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Old 05-11-2005, 01:13 PM   #68 (permalink)
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Location: Mansfield, Ohio USA
Economic Left/Right: -8.00
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -4.00

I didn't think I was so far left.
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Old 05-11-2005, 02:08 PM   #69 (permalink)
 
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that's funny. as a result of answering a sequence of often really stupid questions, i was positioned to the left of the dalai lama. i have no idea what that means.

Economic Left/Right: -9.00
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -7.79
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Old 05-11-2005, 03:27 PM   #70 (permalink)
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Economic Left/Right: -5.25
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -4.87

A bit more left than I had originally thought. I agree that the compass had few, if any questions, on foreign policy/war.
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Old 05-12-2005, 08:59 AM   #71 (permalink)
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Location: Connecticut
Economic Left/Right: -5.75
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -4.82

Just a little more libertarian than Gandhi, I guess.

Some people's scores are a little surprising! Got to read their posts more carefully....
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Old 05-12-2005, 09:09 AM   #72 (permalink)
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Economic Left/Right: -3.00
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -0.21


middle of the road radical.. thats me!
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Old 05-12-2005, 10:52 AM   #73 (permalink)
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Your political compass
Economic Left/Right: -6.50
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -4.82

I don't post here often but read this forum a lot.
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Old 05-12-2005, 04:14 PM   #74 (permalink)
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Economic Left/Right: 3.62
Libertarian/Authoritarian: -0.26

Wow, 3.75/0.31 for me.

Hello kindred, pretty close within .5!

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Old 05-12-2005, 04:43 PM   #75 (permalink)
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It seems I'm in good company in my little space.

Economic Left/Right: -4.50
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.90

I thought that this was an interesting statement/question:
Quote:
Abstract art that doesn't represent anything shouldn't be considered art at all.
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Old 05-13-2005, 12:10 PM   #76 (permalink)
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Economic Left/Right: -5.88
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -8.67

I have long hair, and listen to the Beatles... just thought you should know. I don't call myself a hippie though.
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Old 05-13-2005, 12:34 PM   #77 (permalink)
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Economic Left/Right: -5.00
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.95

Like Paq, I'm near Ghandi and the Dalai Lama. Good company indeed.
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Old 05-13-2005, 08:33 PM   #78 (permalink)
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I thought that this was an interesting statement/question:
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Abstract art that doesn't represent anything shouldn't be considered art at all.
Many totalitarian leaders have criticized abstract art and at times had it destroyed along with intellectual institutions like universities. Agreeing with the statement that it shouldn't be considered art indicates a tendency to want to impose personal views on others and dictate not only their actions, but their thoughts.

That's one of my favorite questions on the test, along with these:

"It's a sad reflection on our society that something as basic as drinking water is now a bottled, branded consumer product."

"The prime function of schooling should be to equip the future generation to find jobs."

"When you are troubled, it's better not to think about it, but to keep busy with more cheerful things."

"Although the electronic age makes official surveillance easier, only wrongdoers need to be worried."

"The businessman and the manufacturer are more important than the writer and the artist."
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Old 05-13-2005, 10:08 PM   #79 (permalink)
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"Abstract art that doesn't represent anything shouldn't be considered art at all."

"Although the electronic age makes official surveillance easier, only wrongdoers need to be worried."
If you selected "agree" to either of the above two questions from the survey, did you consider, before answering, that you would be agreeing to cede the decision making authority as to what constitutes "art that doesn't represent anything", and "wrongdoers" to unknown entities of unknown qualification and integrity, operating in the confines of unknown criteria, if they disclose any criteria at all, or adhere to what they do disclose?

I cannot support the death penalty because I am not confident that the integrity of the officials charged with overseeing the process of selecting the guilty candidates for execution, is at a high enough level to consistantly mete out justice with accuracy. The former governor Ryan of Illinois seemed to make a similar observation a few years ago. He then emptied the death row cells and suspended the death penalty in Illinois. Why are so many other governors unwilling to ask the same questions, or are willing to accept a lower level of justice and accuracy?
Quote:
http://archives.cnn.com/2000/US/01/3...executions.02/
"I still believe the death penalty is a proper response to heinous crimes," Ryan said "But I want to make sure ... that the person who is put to death is absolutely guilty
Do people in Illinois care more about the integrity of their justice system for capital crimes in Illinois than they do in Texas? Why was the Illinois governor going through such a different process regarding decisions on approving execution warrants than Texas governor Bush was, simultaneously, in 1999? Why is the Texas legislature still refusing to react to lessons learned in Illinois?

Does the process that leads to the "left" or the "right" boil down to the "devil" being in the "details" vs. the ends justifying the means?
Quote:
http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/ssistory...olitan/3181720
May 13, 2005, 10:33PM
Death penalty study offers tips to Texas
Legislation that would've included suggestions fails

To minimize the risk of innocent people being sentenced to death, Texas should work to establish public defender's offices, independent crime labs and other safeguards, an organization that represents death row inmates recommends.

In a study released Thursday, the Texas Defender Service studied the recommendations of an Illinois commission appointed to study its death penalty after a moratorium in 2000 and compared them with the Texas justice system.

"Texas failed to comply with 80 percent of the best practices identified in Illinois," said Andrea Keilen, deputy director of the Defender Service and one of the study's authors.
The process that each of us uses to conclude, arrive at a conclusion, is by it's nature, a process designed to end with the reaching of a decision. Is "left" or "right" reduced to a matter of the complexity of the decision making processes of the survey participants?

I hope others will share the thought process that they went through to answer the "abstract art" and "wrongdoers" questions. I hope that it will help us to better understand our differences of opinion and philosphy.

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Old 05-13-2005, 10:58 PM   #80 (permalink)
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Economic Left/Right: -5.25
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.28

I'm in almost exactly the same place as the Dalai Lama. Not sure what to make of that.

This is like one of those "masculine feminine" tests. There are some questions that I couldn't figure out what the left / right or lib / auth position was supposed to be, though I did answer all question honestly.

For example, the abstract art, or the bottled water questions, can't quite grasp what those are guaging. The abstract art can't be economic, but I can't see whether it's supposed to be libertarian or authoritarian. If I say abstract art is art, I'm imposing my opinion on it, but the same is true if I say it isn't art; both positions seem to be libertarian.

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