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http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,102460,00.html


PALESTINE, W.Va. — Former prisoner of war Jessica Lynch said the U.S. military was wrong to manipulate the story of her dramatic rescue and should not have filmed it in the first place.

The 20-year-old private said in a taped TV interview that she was bothered by the military's portrayal of her ordeal.

"They used me as a way to symbolize all this stuff," she said in an excerpt from the interview, posted Friday on the network's Web site.

"It hurt in a way that people would make up stories that they had no truth about," she said.

She also said there was no reason for her rescue from an Iraqi hospital to be filmed. "It's wrong," she said.

The former Army supply clerk suffered broken bones and other injuries when her maintenance convoy was attacked in the Iraqi town of Nasiriyah on March 23. U.S. forces rescued Lynch at a Nasiriyah hospital April 1.

Early reports had Lynch fighting her attackers until she ran out of ammunition and suffering knife and bullet wounds. Military officials later acknowledged that Lynch wasn't shot, but was hurt after her Humvee utility vehicle was hit by a rocket-propelled grenade and crashed into another vehicle.

Lynch said she was just in the wrong place at the wrong time, and that her gun jammed during the chaos. "I'm not about to take credit for something I didn't do," she said.

"I did not shoot, not a round, nothing ... I went down praying to my knees. And that's the last I remember."

Lynch said she was terrified and feared for her life during her time in the Iraqi hospital, and didn't believe she was being rescued until she was being evacuated in a U.S. helicopter. Then, Lynch said, she felt, "My God, this is real. I'm going home."

Footage of the rescue was aired repeatedly on television networks reporting how a special forces team bravely fought into and out of the hospital.

"I don't think it happened quite like that," Lynch said.

But she praised the soldiers who rescued her. "They're the ones that came in to rescue me. Those are my heroes ... I'm so thankful that they did what they did. They risked their lives. They didn't know, you know, who was in there."
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Lynch said she has no recollection of the attack. "Even just the thinking about that, that's too painful," she said.


I think what she's trying to say is that she isn't responsible for the military PR and if she had her druthers it was an experience she'd like to have missed.

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Food Eater Lad

I dont blame her.

f00sion

wow, interesting...what other part of the story is fabricated?

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seretogis

Well, iirc a lot of "the story" was media speculation -- not information released from the military. I'm sure some networks would have loved to have a Sigourney Weaver-esque not-giving-up-until-she-runs-out-of-ammo female soldier, and ran with the idea. When facts are not confirmed, you have to manually filter out the dramatic nonsense that a story is sometimes drenched with.

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Arc101

There was actually a story where the hospital she was staying at tried to return her to the US troops, but couldn't because the US troops opened fire on the ambulance.

Ustwo

You mean US troops would fire warning shots at an unidentified vehicle comming at them in a war where the enemy was known to use civilian vehicles as transport? Those bastards!

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james t kirk

i have more respect for her than ever reading that.

I have to wonder who released this "anal rape" thing. My god, don't they have any respect for the woman's privacy.

It's interesting that she said that she never fired a shot. There was a thing on CNN the other night that was talking about soldiers in WW2 (American) who never fired their weapons in battle because they didn't want to kill anyone.

Ustwo

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splck

So are you suggesting Bush should be a slave?


I wonder what the story line will be in the TV movie...not that I'll waste my time watching it.

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ObieX

If i recall correctly her "rescue" would have been as simple as walking up to the hospital's front desk and asking for her back. But of course the "military" had to be dramatic and go in there with guns locked loaded and pointed at heads. They went way overboard and then some.



Ustwo - we're all still slaves.

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filtherton

So you're on your way to your local recruitment center, right? Just to see if they can put you to some good use, you know, whatever you can handle?

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quote:
Originally posted by Ustwo
Those who will not fight for freedom deserve slavery.






ouch

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Mojo_PeiPei

I got a quote, "those who won't fire their weapons are fucking idiots and will end up dead."

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Zeld2.0

glad to see that some here don't realize that about 90% of the 'veterans' out there never fired a shot and would be dead, possibly meaning none of us would exist today

regardless, i bet most people here would shit their pants if someone started firing a machine gun at them

xtreemmar1ne

You've got that right. I don't know about coming under machine gun fire, but gettin SCUDS shot overhead is bad enough. Waking up in the middle of the night in the pitch black to the sound of rocket engines and hearing everyone screaming "BUNKERS!" scared me shitless the first time. Especially since we were only about 10 miles from the Iraqi border at the time.

Mojo_PeiPei

Did they fire shots because they never saw action? Or were they the idiots taking fire and made the moral decision to not return fire?

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koopabox0rz

She's right. This whole deal of her is blown way out of proportion.

eple

I do love to say what did I say, so: WHAT DID I SAY!!! Suckers, I told you this whole anal rape thing was ridicolous. Poor girl anyways, victim to a rampant propaganda machinery. It can't be too fun to hear people trying to convince the world that you have been anally raped.

Sparhawk

could you clarify what you mean by putting veterans in quotes?

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ShadowWraith

I think it was brave of her to go against government attempts to use her as a media pawn. Unfortunately it does take attention away from other soldiers that died including Sgt. Donald Walters who was apparently responsible for many of the things attributed to jessica lynch.

The_Dude

hrm....it calls her 'prisoner of war'. of what war?

last time i checked, iraqi authorities didnt get the rights of the geneva convention.

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eple

The war on terror man.

james t kirk

I watched the Jessica Lynch thing last night on ABC with Dianne Sawyer.

My lasting impression of Jessica Lynch was that she was very honest AND, just a kid. Child like even. She should have been hanging out at the soda counter, not fighting a war way off in Iraq for Exxon and co.

It would also appear that the Iraqi medical people were quite honourable in the way they treated her and did not allow any harm to come to her. They even loaded her in an ambulance to take her to the americans but the americans (who didn't know she was in the ambulance) started shooting at them forcing them back.

DukeLeto

Not only is Lynch an amazing person (and absolutely correct about the disgusting manner in which she has been sold by Bush et al to score political points), but she was <i>not</i> an idiot or a scared bunny under fire.

Her weapon jammed. Hence, no shooting.

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I think I have to stand corrected as one of those people that defended the notion of her being anally raped. This was of course before I heard that some of the doctor's have contended the idea. I'm glad I was wrong and she was not raped. If she said she was sure she was, I would be inclined to believe her, but I haven't heard her say it herself.

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eple

Damn, I've been outclassed. Feel free to feel warm and fuzzy.

Conclamo Ludus

Imagine at TFP politics someone admits they may have been wrong. Oh my god. I want to vomit. I hope this isn't contagious. Its really painful guys! Do your best to never do this!

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eple

Thanks for the warning man, I was thinking about starting to edmit mistakes myself, but nowI think I'll rather stick to the tried and tested formula of denying everything and/or derailing the topic to try and score some cheap point in the big competiotion towards the "biggest e-penis" award.

Liquor Dealer

You've got your wars confused Dude - Iraqi military have the rights of the Geneva Convention - It's the al Queada that are not entitled to those rights.

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eple

We understood his point anyways, man: The enemies of America has no rights.

Hooray! Hope I never cross your path Uncle Sam.

The_Dude

so if some iraqis are part of al queda, they have no rights?

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Liquor Dealer

You got it! The Geneva Conference applies to the military of a country - thats means they are obviously military - uniform, insignia, etc. It does not apply to those who jump out from under a blanket - shoot people, and crawl back into civilian clothes or commit murder by driving an explosive laden vehicle into a building etc. The rag-tag crap from a bunch of countries banned together to carry out acts of terrorism are not organized national military - and make no attempt to even appear as such.

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eple

Some of us might be making opinions based on ethics and morals, not loopholes in the internatinoal treaties...Wether or not they are protected by the Geneva convention, I believe they deserve the same treatment as everybody else.

Liquor Dealer

Morale??? Is your morale bad???

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eple

Could you rephrase? Is there something wrong with my sense of ethics since I believe everybody sohuld be treated properly even in war, or did i misspell someting?

Lebell

Eple,

You meant morals. Morale is something else.

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eple

Heh, thanks Lebell, I always get those two mixed up

Guess I'll have to go improve my Engrish.