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Old 10-16-2003, 07:27 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Rush Limbaugh, hired by ESPN to help ratings and spice up its Sunday Morning NFL Show, was, for all practical purposes, fired for stating the facts. He dared to say what others whispered: The reason Philadelphia Eagles quarterback Donovan McNabb was not getting scrutinized for bad play as much as he deserved, was because the NFL has a policy of wanting Black coaches and quarterbacks to be successful at all and any cost.


What Limbaugh did was to expose yet another form of Affirmative Action — this time, in sports!


The truth, sad as it might be, is it's a League policy that when a coaching position opens, a team must interview a Black candidate. If they don't, they will be made to suffer.


Consider:


*When the Dallas Cowboys made it clear the coach they wanted was Bill Parcells, who is Caucasian, they were forced to interview a Black candidate. No Black would interview for the job because they saw the handwriting on the wall.

*In contrast, when the Cincinnati Bengals had an opening and wanted to fill it with Marvin Lewis, who is Black, they were allowed to do so without being required to go through the motions of seeking out a qualified White guy.

*In another case, involving Steve Mariucci and the Detroit Lions, after the player was let go by the San Francisco 49ers, the Motor City team knew they wanted to hire him. Which they did immediately — and then got sacked by the NFL with a fine of two-hundred and fifty thousand dollars because they by-passed a Black candidate.

Now, if that's not Affirmative Action, I don't know what is. If these examples do not prove Limbaugh's point, I don't know what does.

There were no "racial overtones" in what Rush said on-air. He was just reporting the facts — as troubling as they may be.


And how convenient for Limbaugh's critics to forget his saying that he hopes Black quarterbacks do well.


Here are a couple more stories that those attacking Rush would like you not to know about the role of racial politics and double standards in professional sports.


*Kordell Stewart is a Black quarterback formerly with the Pittsburgh Steelers, and now with the Chicago Bears. After a few sub-par seasons the Steelers suggested that Stewart switch to either running back or wide receiver. Mr. Stewart refused. Fearing the team would be perceived as racist, the Steelers said nothing and did nothing.

Stewart was eventually beaten out for the job by a White quarterback.


*Yet, Eric Crouch, a white quarterback from the University of Nebraska and a Heisman Trophy winner, was drafted into the NFL. His team asked him to be a wide receiver or defensive back. He said, "No" — and never played in the NFL, "opting" instead to retire at twenty-two.

Like the odor of a dead skunk, Affirmative Action has floated its way into the NFL. The Left has a double standard. When someone on the Left says something about race, they're standing up for "the people."


But if someone on the Right dares to opine about race, he's a racist.


Of course Rush's comments had nothing to do with race and everything to do with the NFL's obscene policy. And what happened to the Right of Free Speech? Rush isn't entitled to it? But of course, the libs are. They've called Rush everything from a racist, an idiot, an imbecile, and vile. And don't forget the book titled, "Rush Limbaugh is a Big Fat Idiot." Imagine if someone wrote a book titled, "Al Roker is a Big Fat Idiot."


Rush Limbaugh surprised his radio audience on Friday by announcing he was checking himself into a drug rehab facility. Rush has to be taken to task for a certain amount of hypocrisy because if he were Howard Stern or Al Franken, he would've been all over them. That, however, is but a single demerit in an otherwise stellar career.


I've got one thing to say: Long Live El Rush-Bo!

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Old 10-16-2003, 07:48 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Re: Jimmy Walker thinks Limbaugh is DYN-O-MITE!

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Who knew he was a writer?!
Yeah, he had a radio talk show here in Omaha, that was actually kinda good. Beleive it, or not, Jimmy actually has an intelligent head on his shoulders. He never seemed to me to sway to far to the right, or to the left...just sorta called 'em as he saw 'em. I don't think that ultra-conservative Omaha was ready for him though. Here, it's either the "right" way...or the highway. Jimmy lasted almost 8 months.
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Old 10-16-2003, 08:00 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Jimmy Walker is a ditto head?! (No one but a ditto-head would call Rush 'El Rush-bo')

Its a damn good thing the Cubs lost or I'd be certain the end was nigh.
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Old 10-17-2003, 12:47 AM   #4 (permalink)
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I thought rush said that it was the media, not the nfl giving mcnabb more credit than he was due. What does the media have to do with affirmative action for coaching candidates?
Jimmy doesn't even have the story right.

I'd like to know where he got his kordell stewart story. Apparently the chicago bears decided that they had to acquire stewart just to keep from being seen as racist too.
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Of course Rush's comments had nothing to do with race and everything to do with the NFL's obscene policy.
Rush's contreversial comments referred only to the media.

This guy should just stick to yelling DYN-O-MITE! at parties.
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Old 10-17-2003, 04:53 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Rush said he hopes black quarterbacks do well? Well, what about Steve McNair, Michael Vick and Quincy Carter. I thought they were black.

Rush is a big, fat idiot. Maybe when he clears his mind of all the drugs it will start working properly. But I'm not going to hold my breath.

I didn't know that Jimmy Walker was a Clarence Thomas.
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Old 10-17-2003, 07:45 AM   #6 (permalink)
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Rush said he hopes black quarterbacks do well? Well, what about Steve McNair, Michael Vick and Quincy Carter. I thought they were black.
You have no idea what you are talking about do you. You should be slow on calling people idiots lest it reflect upon yourself.
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Old 10-17-2003, 08:50 AM   #7 (permalink)
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Personally I'd like to see Rush Limbaugh try out for the Philidelphia Eagles. By the end of the day he'd really need prescription pain medicine instead of just taking it to inspire his bigotted propaganda.
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Old 10-17-2003, 09:07 AM   #8 (permalink)
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Personally I'd like to see Rush Limbaugh try out for the Philidelphia Eagles. By the end of the day he'd really need prescription pain medicine instead of just taking it to inspire his bigotted propaganda.
Liberals are filled with so much hate these days. I find them quite cute as long as they are out of power.
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Old 10-17-2003, 09:42 AM   #9 (permalink)
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Liberals are filled with so much hate these days. I find them quite cute as long as they are out of power.
Are you calling me a liberal? No, I'm not a liberal but pushed to that side because the right wing is filled with name calling drug addicts like Rush Limbaugh.

But no, my liberal friends assure me that I'm quite conservative, thankyou.
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Old 10-17-2003, 03:08 PM   #10 (permalink)
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No, I'm not a liberal but pushed to that side because the right wing is filled with name calling drug addicts like Rush Limbaugh.
You are saying you are pushed to be a liberal because of Rush Limbaugh? You become liberal to somehow spite him?
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Old 10-17-2003, 03:34 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Liberals are filled with so much hate these days. I find them quite cute as long as they are out of power.
What does "liberal" have to do with any of this? I know many conservatives who think rush is a jackass for his comments. Furthermore, jimmy walker does'nt even have the facts straight. Am i a liberal just for pointing that out?

As far as i'm concerned, the first person to bust out either "liberal" or "conservative" as an implied insult has lost all credibility and should stick to complaining about those damn "liberals/conservatives" next to the water cooler with the rest of their ilk and stop pretending like they actually have anything to contribute beyond name calling.
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Old 10-17-2003, 04:01 PM   #12 (permalink)
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As far as I’m concerned, the first person to bust out either "liberal" or "conservative" as an implied insult has lost all credibility and should stick to complaining about those damn "liberals/conservatives" next to the water cooler with the rest of their ilk and stop pretending like they actually have anything to contribute beyond name calling.
I'm a conservative. I don't view it as a bad thing. Does this mean I hold all the views that 'conservatives' do? No, since I am also an atheist. I don't feel bad if you call me one though.

People on the left I call liberals. For some reason people don’t' LIKE being called liberals these days, and something like only 11% of the population (I forget exactly) would identify themselves as a liberal.

Now perhaps I could say at the water cooler (though my place has a very nice refrigerator with a water/ice dispenser) 'that damn filtherton' but they wouldn't know what I was talking about, now would they.

On the other hand I could say 'The senate still won't get rid of the marriage penalty tax, we need to get rid of those damn liberals' and they would know exactly what and who I was talking about.

And while I'm at it, I wasn't calling you a liberal there fitherton, maybe you are, but that’s not the issue. There ARE liberals out there, and they ARE very mean spirited lately and they ARE funny when they are out of power, because they say the most outrageous and crazy things.
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Old 10-17-2003, 07:32 PM   #13 (permalink)
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And while I'm at it, I wasn't calling you a liberal there fitherton, maybe you are, but that’s not the issue. There ARE liberals out there, and they ARE very mean spirited lately and they ARE funny when they are out of power, because they say the most outrageous and crazy things.
I know you wren't calling me a liberal. As far as out of power liberals being mean spirited, conservatives are the same way when they are out of power. Neither gets anything acomplished by being snippy. Oversimplifiying everything in terms of liberal v. conservative, which i i am doing in this paragraph, accomplishes nothing.

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People on the left I call liberals. For some reason people don’t' LIKE being called liberals these days, and something like only 11% of the population (I forget exactly) would identify themselves as a liberal.
People don't like to be called liberal because it has become a loaded word, used for derision by those who think of themselves to be conservative.

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Liberals are filled with so much hate these days. I find them quite cute as long as they are out of power.
What is the point of that statement? A snide comment with no other purpose than poking fun at liberals when you really have no credible reason to think that anyone who posted even IS liberal, or making a statement on behalf of their "liberalness".

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You are saying you are pushed to be a liberal because of Rush Limbaugh? You become liberal to somehow spite him?
There you go again. Regardless of what anyone is actually trying to say with their comments you can't resist trying to turn this thread into some sort of "liberal v. conservative" argument instead of taking people's comments at face value.

Liberal is a very broad word by nature since apparently the liberal label can apply to anyone who is to the left of you, from a moderate republican to an anarchist. As such, it is generally meaningless when actually describing a real person. Arnold schwarzenegger has what some would consider liberal views on abortion rights, is he one of those damn liberals? Orrin hatch supports stem cell research, is he one of those damn liberals? Calling either of these people liberals is clearly innaccurate. What if arnold or orrin, all other things being equal, also supported the marriage penalty tax? You'd lump them in with those damn liberals. And you'd be wrong.

Anyone who defines every choice discussion or action in terms of the conflict between liberal and conservative really needs to get some sort of perspective. That kind of black and white thinking is part of why politics in america is more posture than substance.
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Old 10-17-2003, 08:03 PM   #14 (permalink)
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There you go again. Regardless of what anyone is actually trying to say with their comments you can't resist trying to turn this thread into some sort of "liberal v. conservative" argument instead of taking people's comments at face value.

Ummm filtherton you might want to read a bit more. Astro was saying he is not a liberal but pushed that way because of people like Rush, hense my reply. He said because Rush is such an evil evil man, he is pushed to liberalism. I took him EXACTLY at face value
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Old 10-17-2003, 08:53 PM   #15 (permalink)
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Ummm filtherton you might want to read a bit more. Astro was saying he is not a liberal but pushed that way because of people like Rush, hense my reply. He said because Rush is such an evil evil man, he is pushed to liberalism. I took him EXACTLY at face value
Actually, I'm with filtherton, you're probably the biggest current troll on Politics. By "troll", I mean someone who is here just to push their views on others and not have a meaningful discussion.

Just my .02.
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Old 10-17-2003, 10:16 PM   #16 (permalink)
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You are saying you are pushed to be a liberal because of Rush Limbaugh? You become liberal to somehow spite him?
No, Rush Limbaugh has redefined the Right wing so that anyone with have a brain will find that style of BullShit completely unpalatable. If you bothered to read what I wrote I didn't become a liberal... I am not a liberal.

My conservative beliefs are held for completely different reasons than the reasons that the gaggle of Rush Limbaugh "followers" (worshipers is more like it) have. Rush Limbaugh, Ann Coultier and the like are idiots who give honest conservative values a bad name. They have dumb arguments against all sorts of crap and they consistantly lie to their worshipers to back themselves up. Anyone with a brain who listens to Rush for more than 20 minutes should be able to pick up that he sidesteps arguments and twists facts. Anyone who's taken a few courses of logic should be able to pick out the constant stream of fallacies that flow from his mouth like bitter vomit.

What's more disgusting is the fact that his followers are so keen on soaking this up. Anyone who disagrees with Rush is instantly branded a "Liberal" -it's so fucking retarded. His followers on boards are quick to levy ridiculous flame wars based on assumptions about their allegedly "liberal" opponents.

Now you've gone so far as to mention me personally in a thread twice now. You've told me without embarassment that you were "superior" to me and that I was a liberal etc. etc. I hate to be reduced to this level of answering you back in a personal manner but let's get serious.

I don't believe that you are an adult. I'm serious. I think that you are a teenage boy and I think that you need to grow up. First of all if you were an adult and have a Master's Degree as you claim -then you should pony up and become a donor. I think that I'd be more apt to take you seriously if you simply used some of that Master's Degree "cabbage" and gave it to the forum. It would, in the least, prove that you had a credit card
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Old 10-17-2003, 10:18 PM   #17 (permalink)
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Thanks Rabbit.

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Ummm filtherton you might want to read a bit more. Astro was saying he is not a liberal but pushed that way because of people like Rush, hense my reply. He said because Rush is such an evil evil man, he is pushed to liberalism. I took him EXACTLY at face value
If you think that i misread that line, just remove my last quote from the offending post and reread it. Than try and address what i said on something more than a technicality.

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That is the first time liberal appears. You brought it up. This thread had nothing to do with anyone being liberal or conservative, besides maybe jimmy walker. You come in here and add nothing relevant to the subject of the thread, only snide comments. Why?
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Old 10-18-2003, 07:50 AM   #18 (permalink)
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Am i the only one who thinks that Jimmy doesn't really believe or care about what he said.

Probably just taking a lesson from Rush and pandering for ratings.
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Old 10-18-2003, 08:03 AM   #19 (permalink)
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My question is this: Why is everyone allowing Ustwo to lead discussion away from the topic, which is Jimmy's yearning to fellate Rush Limbaugh while balancing a bucket of Oxy-Contin on his head?

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Old 10-18-2003, 08:24 AM   #20 (permalink)
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Old 10-18-2003, 10:29 AM   #21 (permalink)
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franken has cold, backed-up facts behind his comments on the fat one.
If Al Franken wrote it, it must be true.
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Old 10-18-2003, 11:00 AM   #22 (permalink)
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pay no attention any post more than four post above this one.
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Old 10-18-2003, 11:35 AM   #23 (permalink)
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If Al Franken wrote it, it must be true.
Nice troll. Thanks for addiing to the intelligent discourse.
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Old 10-18-2003, 11:43 AM   #24 (permalink)
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Nice troll. Thanks for addiing to the intelligent discourse.
I am agreeing and I've seen enough in this thread.

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