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Conclamo Ludus · 10-17-2003, 06:53 AM

I don't think the solution lies in "more" minorities. I think it lies in better portrayals of the ones that are there already. I can't stand how they insert a minority character into a story, and the character just sticks to the stereotypes. I see this especially with gay people in the media. The gay people I know, are quite offended and annoyed at how they are portrayed. They just play out stereotypes. I was surprised when one of my friends came out and he wasn't very good at matching his clothes and keeping his room tidy and didn't sing showtunes, and could give two shits for parades. Okay I wasn't really surprised, but I was surprised to hear him rant every time he watches tv. They portray asians as always being somewhat nerdy, black guys as party animals and sports-freaks, latinos as having a temper, and italians as always being shady. These are okay to see every once and a while, but surely they could mix it up a bit. Maybe I'm wrong but I think there are all shades of personalities within all shades of skin.

Food Eater Lad · 10-17-2003, 10:06 AM

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Originally posted by Jesus Pimp
Eh? I just want to see more variety of people on tv whether it's racial, gender, whatever. It's not about affirmative action or being politically correct. It's ludicrous to say variety isn't marketable because anything can be marketable if done right.

I dont care about variety of people. If all that was on tv was one actor or actress, and that person was talented, I would watch it. Instead of looking for "variety of people" how about you look for quality of show and talent instead?

Jesus Pimp · 10-17-2003, 07:30 PM

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I dont care about variety of people. If all that was on tv was one actor or actress, and that person was talented, I would watch it. Instead of looking for "variety of people" how about you look for quality of show and talent instead?

You must enjoy watching the same boring rehashed programming on tv.

Food Eater Lad · 10-17-2003, 07:55 PM

Actually I dont watch TV, thats what I do when confronted with lack of quality. I dont pretend that more people with different skin tones will turn crap into gold.

Jesus Pimp · 10-18-2003, 04:10 AM

LOL so why did you even post in this thread?

Food Eater Lad · 10-18-2003, 07:19 AM

Cause the idea that tv will be better if a vareity of people are forced on for the only reason to have a vareity of people is naive and unamerican.

Jesus Pimp · 10-18-2003, 08:32 AM

No one is forcing anyone

Now being forced to watch white people on tv all the time is naive and typical american.

Food Eater Lad · 10-18-2003, 08:56 AM

You just said that no one is forcing you to watch, but this thread is about forcing more "variety of people" on tv for no other reason than their race. So people are arguing that people should get hired for work SOLEY based on race. How can anyone argue that this whole thread is nothing but racist? For good reasons or bad, giving people work based on skin tone is racist.

Sledge · 10-18-2003, 10:33 AM

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Originally posted by Food Eater Lad
So people are arguing that people should get hired for work SOLEY based on race.

Not entirely true. No one's going to step onto the street and pick up random minorities who have never acted in their lives. So, no, not SOLEY.

I'd agree with you if I thought that actors WERE chosen solely for their acting talent. But they aren't. Just as blonde models are routinely chosen over brown-haired models because they play to a greater audience, talented minority actors are often seen as unfit for roles in shows and films. They're nonstandard and unusual, and movie studios aren't going to take the risk with multimillion-dollar budgets on the line.

Food Eater Lad · 10-18-2003, 11:15 AM

So you want studios to use actors that will cost them money? Why would they do that?

Sledge · 10-18-2003, 11:18 AM

Quite right.

You had two different points, though, and one of them was that "America will pay to see a talented actor regardless of his or her race," and I think that's bullshit.

What America - what "the majority" wants to see is people like them, typical Americans. And the majority gets what the majority wants, at least in a capitalist economic model. I can't argue with that. I'm just saying it sucks to be in the minority, and it's willful blindness to pretend that it doesn't.

Phaenx · 10-18-2003, 11:22 AM

The only things worth watching on tv nowadays are sports and cartoons. The rest has turned to such crap that it pains me to even think about watching it.

Food Eater Lad · 10-18-2003, 12:21 PM

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Originally posted by Sledge
Quite right.

You had two different points, though, and one of them was that "America will pay to see a talented actor regardless of his or her race," and I think that's bullshit.

What America - what "the majority" wants to see is people like them, typical Americans. And the majority gets what the majority wants, at least in a capitalist economic model. I can't argue with that. I'm just saying it sucks to be in the minority, and it's willful blindness to pretend that it doesn't.

So then what is the point of this thread? To make studios make unprofitable movies?

Sledge · 10-18-2003, 01:24 PM

To point out the underrepresentation of Asians in popular media. Please refer to opening post.

Jesus Pimp · 10-18-2003, 01:26 PM

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Originally posted by Food Eater Lad
So then what is the point of this thread? To make studios make unprofitable movies?

How are you so sure they'll be unprofitable just because they have a variety of characters of different backgrounds etc..?

Food Eater Lad · 10-18-2003, 03:01 PM

Re read sledge's post.

10-17-2003, 06:53 AM	#41 (permalink)
Conclamo Ludus Modern Man Location: West Michigan	I don't think the solution lies in "more" minorities. I think it lies in better portrayals of the ones that are there already. I can't stand how they insert a minority character into a story, and the character just sticks to the stereotypes. I see this especially with gay people in the media. The gay people I know, are quite offended and annoyed at how they are portrayed. They just play out stereotypes. I was surprised when one of my friends came out and he wasn't very good at matching his clothes and keeping his room tidy and didn't sing showtunes, and could give two shits for parades. Okay I wasn't really surprised, but I was surprised to hear him rant every time he watches tv. They portray asians as always being somewhat nerdy, black guys as party animals and sports-freaks, latinos as having a temper, and italians as always being shady. These are okay to see every once and a while, but surely they could mix it up a bit. Maybe I'm wrong but I think there are all shades of personalities within all shades of skin. __________________ Lord, have mercy on my wicked soul I wouldn't mistreat you baby, for my weight in gold. -Son House, Death Letter Blues

10-18-2003, 04:10 AM	#45 (permalink)
Jesus Pimp The Original JizzSmacka	LOL so why did you even post in this thread? __________________ Never date anyone who doesn't make your dick hard.

10-18-2003, 08:32 AM	#47 (permalink)
Jesus Pimp The Original JizzSmacka	No one is forcing anyone Now being forced to watch white people on tv all the time is naive and typical american. __________________ Never date anyone who doesn't make your dick hard.

10-18-2003, 11:22 AM	#52 (permalink)
Phaenx The Northern Ward Location: Columbus, Ohio	The only things worth watching on tv nowadays are sports and cartoons. The rest has turned to such crap that it pains me to even think about watching it. __________________ "I went shopping last night at like 1am. The place was empty and this old woman just making polite conversation said to me, 'where is everyone??' I replied, 'In bed, same place you and I should be!' Took me ten minutes to figure out why she gave me a dirty look." --Some guy

10-17-2003, 07:55 PM	#44 (permalink)
Food Eater Lad Banned	Actually I dont watch TV, thats what I do when confronted with lack of quality. I dont pretend that more people with different skin tones will turn crap into gold.

10-18-2003, 07:19 AM	#46 (permalink)
Food Eater Lad Banned	Cause the idea that tv will be better if a vareity of people are forced on for the only reason to have a vareity of people is naive and unamerican.

10-18-2003, 08:56 AM	#48 (permalink)
Food Eater Lad Banned	You just said that no one is forcing you to watch, but this thread is about forcing more "variety of people" on tv for no other reason than their race. So people are arguing that people should get hired for work SOLEY based on race. How can anyone argue that this whole thread is nothing but racist? For good reasons or bad, giving people work based on skin tone is racist.

10-18-2003, 11:15 AM	#50 (permalink)
Food Eater Lad Banned	So you want studios to use actors that will cost them money? Why would they do that?

10-18-2003, 11:18 AM	#51 (permalink)
Sledge Pasture Bedtime	Quite right. You had two different points, though, and one of them was that "America will pay to see a talented actor regardless of his or her race," and I think that's bullshit. What America - what "the majority" wants to see is people like them, typical Americans. And the majority gets what the majority wants, at least in a capitalist economic model. I can't argue with that. I'm just saying it sucks to be in the minority, and it's willful blindness to pretend that it doesn't.

10-18-2003, 01:24 PM	#54 (permalink)
Sledge Pasture Bedtime	To point out the underrepresentation of Asians in popular media. Please refer to opening post.

10-18-2003, 03:01 PM	#56 (permalink)
Food Eater Lad Banned	Re read sledge's post.