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Moskie · 10-09-2003, 11:10 AM

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Black leaders are outraged over a new board game called "Ghettopoly" that has "playas" acting like pimps and game cards reading, "You got yo whole neighborhood addicted to crack. Collect $50."

This game looks pretty damn funny, I'm gonna keep my eyes open for it. But man, people get their panties in a bunch over anything these days. If they don't like it, they shouldn't buy it. And why don't these people protest movies like "Friday" and "Don't Be a Menace...."? The subject matter and humor of those movies are very similar to this board game, but I don't remember people making a stink about them...

Their website lists other games too, including "Redneckpoly".

p.s. was this the right board for this? had trouble deciding between this, entertainment, gaming, or humor...

Phaenx · 10-09-2003, 11:59 AM

Suck it, NAACP!

We brought this up at the last national white people convention every white person on the planet attends, it's all a wide scale conspiracy to keep them from reaching financial freedom.

Darkblack · 10-09-2003, 12:04 PM

Well, I for one didn't think this game was racist until your post Phaenx.

johnnymysto · 10-09-2003, 12:11 PM

Yeah, why don't black leaders protest 50 Cent? He's a thug who got shot, and now he's going to tell all the kiddies how you gotta pack heat if you gonna make it on da street. Why not protest DMX, Ja Rule, MURDER INC., Ludacris, and just about any black comedian on BET? This game is funny, and isn't doing or saying anything that's not said 1000 times every day by a lot of black people.

Moskie · 10-09-2003, 12:12 PM

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I put on my robe and wizard hat.

So I take it that's not a D&D reference then?

The_Dude · 10-09-2003, 02:22 PM

i think that its more funny than racist (if racist at all)

fishin · 10-09-2003, 06:21 PM

This country needs to get a grip on the whole PC thing. It is sickening. It is full of hypocrisy.

maximusveritas · 10-09-2003, 08:18 PM

If your kid was going to be playing this crap, I guarantee you'd be a little concerned. As a board game, its being targeted at kids and sends all the wrong messages.
While it is the same as the message in rap songs, that doesn't make it right. Also, its just not correct to say black leaders haven't protested against violence and hate in rap because they have.
But I guess you guys don't support that either, right? That's just too PC.

Macheath · 10-09-2003, 08:59 PM

Community Chest: CIA floods LA with crack/cocaine to fund South American Contras. Collect $200.

Chance: Nancy Reagan gets serious in war on drugs. Tells kids "Just Say No". Lose $0.00.

Get out of Jail Card: You've just set up a sweet "business relationship" (sniff, sniff) with some yuppies at the Harvard Club. Retain mobile number to get out of jail free.

Killconey · 10-09-2003, 09:10 PM

While I agree with maximus that this isn't quite a game that I'd want my kids to play (if I had kids), this is definitely the kind of game that I would play. So what if it pokes fun at life in the ghetto, I didn't see the Trailerparks of America getting upset over Redneckopoly. Hypersensitity will not defeat racism, but humor just might.

Jdoe · 10-09-2003, 11:00 PM

Just want to be an antagonist for a moment. Where did anything say ANYTHING about race? I see some people jumping to conclusions here.

Jdoe

Post Script: Yes I know what you mean. Yes I know what the game is. Yes I know more than nothing. But there are still some conclusions of race going on.

Sun Tzu · 10-10-2003, 02:54 AM

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Originally posted by Macheath
Community Chest: CIA floods LA with crack/cocaine to fund South American Contras. Collect $200.

Chance: Nancy Reagan gets serious in war on drugs. Tells kids "Just Say No". Lose $0.00.

Get out of Jail Card: You've just set up a sweet "business relationship" (sniff, sniff) with some yuppies at the Harvard Club. Retain mobile number to get out of jail free.

Moskie · 10-10-2003, 03:22 AM

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As a board game, its being targeted at kids and sends all the wrong messages.

This game is a spoof of Monopoly, one of about a billion spoofs on it that I've seen. But they're not all directed at kids. How many kids do you think want the Cincinnati (or whatever) themed Monopoly board? I would guess not very many. And Ghettopoly isn't meant for kids either. I don't think most kids would get all the references anyway (see Macheath's post). So just because it's a board game doesn't mean it's for kids.

Conclamo Ludus · 10-10-2003, 04:46 AM

I hardly think the game is racist. Its not blackopoly. I'm beginning to think the biggest problem with racism is that we can't discuss it at all. People need to lighten up about it to have an open discussion. Racism is fueled by hatred and you can't feed hatred against it, which seems to be the accepted method of attack. Ignorance on the other hand is the silent killer when it comes to racism people mistake this for hate too often. Ignorance can be overcome and I think this gets better with each generation.
People have to stop being terrified of laughter even at the darkest of subjects, sometimes its the best counter to hatred. People need to feel safe having an open dialog about race, especially white people. The biggest mistake they made with Rush was to not let any of the commentators show him how ignorant he was being with his comments. Racism still remains a taboo topic to whites. As long as this keeps happening, ignorance will persist.

mb99usa · 10-10-2003, 07:25 AM

I have a question:

What were the people protesting against this game upset about, the fact that it is a reflection of some people's lives, or that soemone is making money off of it?

Either answer is a joke. Everything we do is based upon our lives, whatever situation we are in. The fact that soemone is making money off it is simply capitalism at work.

For a nation that will plop down on a couch and watch 3 hours of mindless sit-coms a night we have no sense of humor. People look for a hidden agenda in everything someone says or does.

Our nation was founded by a group of rebels. Somewhere over the last several decades we forgot that and have become the Clean America.

Arc101 · 10-10-2003, 08:02 AM

This looks like a really good fun to game to play with your friends and get drunk. I'll have to look out for this.

Astrocloud · 10-10-2003, 08:08 AM

Truth be told -it's very racist in the same vein as the Golliwog

Which are also making a comback:

http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_270310.html?menu=

Sales of Golliwogs are booming again after years of being ostracised from the toy box.

Golliwogs bore the brunt of political correctness in the 1980s and 90s. Toy shops thought it non-PC to even sell one in the 1980s.

But now the toy is making a surprise comeback with a rebranding for the 21st century.

Toy manufacturers are working flat-out to meet demand for the doll as his popularity soars.

He fell foul of the censors in the 1980s for bullying Noddy. He was named and shamed as a "legacy of slavery" and his character dropped by publishers.

The Working Group Against Racism in Children's Resources added: "He embodies the mythical qualities often attributed to black people - superstition, large appetites, primitive simplicity and savagery."

Oliver Holmes, managing director of manufacturer Merry Thought, said: "We make 10,000 gollies a year and are currently working to full capacity. British orders now have to be placed months in advance and gollies are also a tremendous export winner in the States. "

The golliwog first appeared as a soft toy in 1895 and is even older than the teddy bear, which first appeared five years later, reports the Daily Record.

Even the Commission for Racial Equality have stopped short of condemning golly's comeback.

A spokeswoman said: "Books, dolls, games and other toys should be a mirror to the multi-ethnic society we live in. It is the responsibility of teachers and carers to ensure children do not learn to label or stereotype any particular group through play or learning materials."

Kadath · 10-10-2003, 08:53 AM

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Originally posted by moskie
So I take it that's not a D&D reference then?

Oh, snap.

My gf mentioned this to me a few weeks back. I think it's no big deal. The game plays upon stereotypes. No big thing.

Astrocloud · 10-10-2003, 09:12 AM

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Originally posted by Kadath
Oh, snap.

My gf mentioned this to me a few weeks back. I think it's no big deal. The game plays upon stereotypes. No big thing.

So would you let 10 year olds play this game?

Sledge · 10-10-2003, 09:13 AM

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Originally posted by Jdoe
Just want to be an antagonist for a moment. Where did anything say ANYTHING about race? I see some people jumping to conclusions here.

Well, there IS a bemuscled, sneering black thug bursting out of the center with a doobie in one hand and an uzi in the other...

It takes a certain level of willful ignorance to pretend that people don't associate the ghetto with poor blacks.

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Originally posted by Kadath
The game plays upon stereotypes.

That's kind of the point.

Kadath · 10-13-2003, 08:45 PM

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Originally posted by Astrocloud
So would you let 10 year olds play this game?

Sure, just as much as I'd let them watch UPN. This is no less sanitized than network TV.

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Originally posted by Sledge
That's kind of the point.

Yeah, thanks for ignoring the next sentence, which was actually the point. I was admitting it did play upon stereotypes and then dismissing that as not a huge problem. I guess this is what it is like to be quoted out of context.

Sledge · 10-13-2003, 10:21 PM

My apologies. Let me try this again.

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Originally posted by Kadath
The game plays upon stereotypes. No big thing.

I disagree. The fact that the game plays upon stereotypes is kind of the point. That is why many people find it offensive, and fear that the reiteration of said stereotypes will arm the nation's stupider inhabitance with ignorant and harmful attitudes.

Not everyone is as enlightened and color- and class-blind as you.

ObieX · 10-13-2003, 10:44 PM

LOL this is great. I guess these "black leaders" dont realize they're boosting the sales of this game beyond the developer's wildest expectations. I had no idea this game existed until the complaints started and the news picked it up.

I would play this game and i would let my children play this game if i had them. Why? Becuase i would be damn sure to actually.. you know.. TEACH MY CHILDREN so they UNDERSTAND REALITY.

There will always be stupid people and those that are not "as enlightened". Usually these people learn the error of their ways and change. If they dont change they'll suffer for it. Natural selection will take care of them, I'm not worried.

OFKU0 · 10-14-2003, 06:44 AM

I'd like to see a game like this that pokes fun of every ethnic culture but there are too many crybabies in the world for that to happen.

Killconey · 10-14-2003, 10:36 PM

Ooo! As long as we're on the subject, anyone for a rousing game of Crackeropoly?

Lebell · 10-15-2003, 12:48 AM

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Originally posted by Killconey
Ooo! As long as we're on the subject, anyone for a rousing game of Crackeropoly?

Wouldn't that be the original version?

You know, the rich white capitalist gobbling up all the properties and raising rent on those less fortunate?

Kadath · 10-15-2003, 06:05 AM

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Originally posted by Lebell
Wouldn't that be the original version?

You know, the rich white capitalist gobbling up all the properties and raising rent on those less fortunate?

No, no. Crackers are poor white southern folk, aren't they? So most of the properties would be trailers, and...some other comment about white trash, I guess.

Doos · 10-15-2003, 06:42 AM

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Originally posted by Kadath
No, no. Crackers are poor white southern folk, aren't they? So most of the properties would be trailers, and...some other comment about white trash, I guess.

You have just past begin. Collect $20, your dog and you can screw your cousin.

Jesus Pimp · 10-15-2003, 09:29 AM

If they can exploit stereotypes on tv and movies, why can't they do it with board games? On a side note I think it's great that it was designed by an asian guy from my home state of PA.

zenmaster10665 · 10-16-2003, 02:12 AM

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Suck it, NAACP!

We brought this up at the last national white people convention every white person on the planet attends, it's all a wide scale conspiracy to keep them from reaching financial freedom.

__________________
I put on my robe and wizard hat.

yipes.

Lebell · 10-16-2003, 02:25 AM

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Originally posted by Kadath
No, no. Crackers are poor white southern folk, aren't they? So most of the properties would be trailers, and...some other comment about white trash, I guess.

Hmmm,

I thought that version was "Honkyopoly".

Oh well.

(and no, Crackeropoly wouldn't bother me any more than Ghettopoly does...)

Kadath · 10-16-2003, 04:48 AM

Lebell, you could very well be right. I always thought "honky" was any white person, and "cracker" was ignorant southern white trash.

Lebell · 10-16-2003, 09:57 AM

Well, all I really know is that "honky" comes from when young white guys in the south would cruise and "honk" and hoot at the young black girls.

I kinda thought that was a white trash thing, but I could very well be wrong...

Food Eater Lad · 10-16-2003, 09:58 AM

I think those that complain should not buy the game and instead spend their money on things that do not promote negative black stereotypes, like gangster rap.

Killconey · 10-16-2003, 03:50 PM

Heh, heh, heh. You're a funny guy Food Eater Lad. About the only thing stopping rap from being racist is the fact that its done by black guys.

Lebell · 10-16-2003, 10:41 PM

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Originally posted by Killconey
Heh, heh, heh. You're a funny guy Food Eater Lad. About the only thing stopping rap from being racist is the fact that its done by black guys.

AH.

So you are saying that whether or not a statement is racist depends on if the speaker is a member of the ethnic group being maligned?

Well then, black people better not make fun of rednecks: that's racist.

Only other white people can make fun of those ignorant back-water jerks

XenuHubbard · 10-17-2003, 03:30 AM

If an artist named Ghostface Killer gets played on MTV, I can't see a problem with this game.

Moskie · 10-17-2003, 07:24 AM

Maybe I'm misinterpreting, but I think some of you might have missed it when I mentioned that the same company is making another game called Redneckopoly. Its listed on their website, http://www.ghettopoly.com/ . So this company isn't after only people in the ghetto or only black people. They spread the love to all stereotypes!

Food Eater Lad · 10-17-2003, 10:03 AM

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Originally posted by Killconey
Heh, heh, heh. You're a funny guy Food Eater Lad. About the only thing stopping rap from being racist is the fact that its done by black guys.

Yes all the record accountants, lawyers, publisists, club owners, who are making tons of money are all black

Bill O'Rights · 10-17-2003, 01:29 PM

Oh for crying out loud! Who cares? It actually looks kinda fun, to me. If it pokes fun at a certain subculture, or racial sterotype, that this same culture goes out of its way to cultivate, then all the better. This is so funny...I need to get me one of those.

10-09-2003, 11:59 AM	#2 (permalink)
Phaenx The Northern Ward Location: Columbus, Ohio	Suck it, NAACP! We brought this up at the last national white people convention every white person on the planet attends, it's all a wide scale conspiracy to keep them from reaching financial freedom. __________________ "I went shopping last night at like 1am. The place was empty and this old woman just making polite conversation said to me, 'where is everyone??' I replied, 'In bed, same place you and I should be!' Took me ten minutes to figure out why she gave me a dirty look." --Some guy

10-09-2003, 12:11 PM	#4 (permalink)
johnnymysto Overreactor Location: South Ca'lina	Yeah, why don't black leaders protest 50 Cent? He's a thug who got shot, and now he's going to tell all the kiddies how you gotta pack heat if you gonna make it on da street. Why not protest DMX, Ja Rule, MURDER INC., Ludacris, and just about any black comedian on BET? This game is funny, and isn't doing or saying anything that's not said 1000 times every day by a lot of black people. __________________ "I'm disinclined to acquiesce to your request." - Capt. Barbossa

10-09-2003, 02:22 PM	#6 (permalink)
The_Dude The GrandDaddy of them all! Location: Austin, TX	i think that its more funny than racist (if racist at all) __________________ "Luck is what happens when preparation meets opportunity." - Darrel K Royal

10-09-2003, 06:21 PM	#7 (permalink)
fishin Crazy	This country needs to get a grip on the whole PC thing. It is sickening. It is full of hypocrisy. __________________ liberals rule. phhtt.

10-09-2003, 09:10 PM	#10 (permalink)
Killconey Crazy Location: Various places in the Midwest, all depending on when I'm posting.	While I agree with maximus that this isn't quite a game that I'd want my kids to play (if I had kids), this is definitely the kind of game that I would play. So what if it pokes fun at life in the ghetto, I didn't see the Trailerparks of America getting upset over Redneckopoly. Hypersensitity will not defeat racism, but humor just might. __________________ Look out for numbers two and up and they'll look out for you.

10-09-2003, 12:04 PM	#3 (permalink)
Darkblack Banned Location: Pennsytuckia	Well, I for one didn't think this game was racist until your post Phaenx.

10-09-2003, 08:18 PM	#8 (permalink)
maximusveritas Winner	If your kid was going to be playing this crap, I guarantee you'd be a little concerned. As a board game, its being targeted at kids and sends all the wrong messages. While it is the same as the message in rap songs, that doesn't make it right. Also, its just not correct to say black leaders haven't protested against violence and hate in rap because they have. But I guess you guys don't support that either, right? That's just too PC.

10-09-2003, 08:59 PM	#9 (permalink)
Macheath Junkie Location: Sydney, Australia	Community Chest: CIA floods LA with crack/cocaine to fund South American Contras. Collect $200. Chance: Nancy Reagan gets serious in war on drugs. Tells kids "Just Say No". Lose $0.00. Get out of Jail Card: You've just set up a sweet "business relationship" (sniff, sniff) with some yuppies at the Harvard Club. Retain mobile number to get out of jail free.

10-09-2003, 11:00 PM	#11 (permalink)
Jdoe Crazy	Just want to be an antagonist for a moment. Where did anything say ANYTHING about race? I see some people jumping to conclusions here. Jdoe Post Script: Yes I know what you mean. Yes I know what the game is. Yes I know more than nothing. But there are still some conclusions of race going on.

10-10-2003, 04:46 AM	#14 (permalink)
Conclamo Ludus Modern Man Location: West Michigan	I hardly think the game is racist. Its not blackopoly. I'm beginning to think the biggest problem with racism is that we can't discuss it at all. People need to lighten up about it to have an open discussion. Racism is fueled by hatred and you can't feed hatred against it, which seems to be the accepted method of attack. Ignorance on the other hand is the silent killer when it comes to racism people mistake this for hate too often. Ignorance can be overcome and I think this gets better with each generation. People have to stop being terrified of laughter even at the darkest of subjects, sometimes its the best counter to hatred. People need to feel safe having an open dialog about race, especially white people. The biggest mistake they made with Rush was to not let any of the commentators show him how ignorant he was being with his comments. Racism still remains a taboo topic to whites. As long as this keeps happening, ignorance will persist. __________________ Lord, have mercy on my wicked soul I wouldn't mistreat you baby, for my weight in gold. -Son House, Death Letter Blues

10-10-2003, 07:25 AM	#15 (permalink)
mb99usa Keep on rolling. It only hurts for a little while. Location: wherever I am	I have a question: What were the people protesting against this game upset about, the fact that it is a reflection of some people's lives, or that soemone is making money off of it? Either answer is a joke. Everything we do is based upon our lives, whatever situation we are in. The fact that soemone is making money off it is simply capitalism at work. For a nation that will plop down on a couch and watch 3 hours of mindless sit-coms a night we have no sense of humor. People look for a hidden agenda in everything someone says or does. Our nation was founded by a group of rebels. Somewhere over the last several decades we forgot that and have become the Clean America. __________________ So, what's your point? It's not an attitude, it's a way of life.

10-10-2003, 08:02 AM	#16 (permalink)
Arc101 Addict Location: Nottingham, England	This looks like a really good fun to game to play with your friends and get drunk. I'll have to look out for this.

10-10-2003, 08:08 AM	#17 (permalink)
Astrocloud Apocalypse Nerd	Truth be told -it's very racist in the same vein as the Golliwog Which are also making a comback: http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_270310.html?menu= Sales of Golliwogs are booming again after years of being ostracised from the toy box. Golliwogs bore the brunt of political correctness in the 1980s and 90s. Toy shops thought it non-PC to even sell one in the 1980s. But now the toy is making a surprise comeback with a rebranding for the 21st century. Toy manufacturers are working flat-out to meet demand for the doll as his popularity soars. He fell foul of the censors in the 1980s for bullying Noddy. He was named and shamed as a "legacy of slavery" and his character dropped by publishers. The Working Group Against Racism in Children's Resources added: "He embodies the mythical qualities often attributed to black people - superstition, large appetites, primitive simplicity and savagery." Oliver Holmes, managing director of manufacturer Merry Thought, said: "We make 10,000 gollies a year and are currently working to full capacity. British orders now have to be placed months in advance and gollies are also a tremendous export winner in the States. " The golliwog first appeared as a soft toy in 1895 and is even older than the teddy bear, which first appeared five years later, reports the Daily Record. Even the Commission for Racial Equality have stopped short of condemning golly's comeback. A spokeswoman said: "Books, dolls, games and other toys should be a mirror to the multi-ethnic society we live in. It is the responsibility of teachers and carers to ensure children do not learn to label or stereotype any particular group through play or learning materials." Last edited by Astrocloud; 10-10-2003 at 08:12 AM..

10-13-2003, 10:44 PM	#23 (permalink)
ObieX Pickles Location: Shirt and Pants (NJ)	LOL this is great. I guess these "black leaders" dont realize they're boosting the sales of this game beyond the developer's wildest expectations. I had no idea this game existed until the complaints started and the news picked it up. I would play this game and i would let my children play this game if i had them. Why? Becuase i would be damn sure to actually.. you know.. TEACH MY CHILDREN so they UNDERSTAND REALITY. There will always be stupid people and those that are not "as enlightened". Usually these people learn the error of their ways and change. If they dont change they'll suffer for it. Natural selection will take care of them, I'm not worried. __________________ We Must Dissent.

10-14-2003, 06:44 AM	#24 (permalink)
OFKU0 Junk	I'd like to see a game like this that pokes fun of every ethnic culture but there are too many crybabies in the world for that to happen. __________________ " In Canada, you can tell the most blatant lie in a calm voice, and people will believe you over someone who's a little passionate about the truth." David Warren, Western Standard.

10-14-2003, 10:36 PM	#25 (permalink)
Killconey Crazy Location: Various places in the Midwest, all depending on when I'm posting.	Ooo! As long as we're on the subject, anyone for a rousing game of Crackeropoly? __________________ Look out for numbers two and up and they'll look out for you.

10-15-2003, 09:29 AM	#29 (permalink)
Jesus Pimp The Original JizzSmacka	If they can exploit stereotypes on tv and movies, why can't they do it with board games? On a side note I think it's great that it was designed by an asian guy from my home state of PA. __________________ Never date anyone who doesn't make your dick hard.

10-16-2003, 04:48 AM	#32 (permalink)
Kadath Muffled Location: Camazotz	Lebell, you could very well be right. I always thought "honky" was any white person, and "cracker" was ignorant southern white trash. __________________ it's quiet in here

10-16-2003, 09:57 AM	#33 (permalink)
Lebell Cracking the Whip Location: Sexymama's arms...	Well, all I really know is that "honky" comes from when young white guys in the south would cruise and "honk" and hoot at the young black girls. I kinda thought that was a white trash thing, but I could very well be wrong... __________________ "Of all tyrannies, a tyranny exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It may be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end, for they do so with the approval of their own conscience." – C. S. Lewis The ONLY sponsors we have are YOU! Please Donate!

10-16-2003, 09:58 AM	#34 (permalink)
Food Eater Lad Banned	I think those that complain should not buy the game and instead spend their money on things that do not promote negative black stereotypes, like gangster rap. Last edited by Food Eater Lad; 10-16-2003 at 02:32 PM..

10-16-2003, 03:50 PM	#35 (permalink)
Killconey Crazy Location: Various places in the Midwest, all depending on when I'm posting.	Heh, heh, heh. You're a funny guy Food Eater Lad. About the only thing stopping rap from being racist is the fact that its done by black guys. __________________ Look out for numbers two and up and they'll look out for you.

10-17-2003, 03:30 AM	#37 (permalink)
XenuHubbard Cute and Cuddly Location: Teegeeack.	If an artist named Ghostface Killer gets played on MTV, I can't see a problem with this game. __________________ The above was written by a true prophet. Trust me. "What doesn't kill you, makes you bitter and paranoid". - SB2000

10-17-2003, 07:24 AM	#38 (permalink)
Moskie Pure Chewing Satisfaction Location: can i use bbcode [i]here[/i]?	Maybe I'm misinterpreting, but I think some of you might have missed it when I mentioned that the same company is making another game called Redneckopoly. Its listed on their website, http://www.ghettopoly.com/ . So this company isn't after only people in the ghetto or only black people. They spread the love to all stereotypes! __________________ Greetings and salutations.

10-17-2003, 01:29 PM	#40 (permalink)
Bill O'Rights will always be an Alyson Hanniganite Location: In the dust of the archives	Oh for crying out loud! Who cares? It actually looks kinda fun, to me. If it pokes fun at a certain subculture, or racial sterotype, that this same culture goes out of its way to cultivate, then all the better. This is so funny...I need to get me one of those. __________________ "I distrust those people who know so well what God wants them to do because I notice it always coincides with their own desires." - Susan B. Anthony "Hedonism with rules isn't hedonism at all, it's the Republican party." - JumpinJesus It is indisputable that true beauty lies within...but a nice rack sure doesn't hurt.