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The_Dude · 10-07-2003, 07:34 PM

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CNN projects that California voters will remove Gov. Gray Davis from office and elect Arnold Schwarzenegger to replace him, based on statewide exit polls. Those polls show Schwarzenegger winning by a comfortable margin. Schwarzenegger survived a wave of scandal in the campaign's last days. Davis will leave office less than one year into his second term.

god damn Californians!

you will now suffer for the tenure of your governor (or would you choose to replace him?)

sixate · 10-07-2003, 07:42 PM

I love this. I'm gonna laugh myself to sleep and laugh all day at work tomorrow.

Come to think of it I have something else to laugh about:

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Originally posted by Nizzle in this thread
If Arnold is elected, I'm moving to Canada.

Need help packing your bags?

On a serious note. All politicians need to start doing their jobs because people obviously don't trust any of them.

Mojo_PeiPei · 10-07-2003, 07:44 PM

I saw the "honorable" Jesse Jackson on Hannity and Colmes saying that the Dems will likely challenge it in the morning or at the very least file for a recall of their own within the next few months. At any rate what a circus this will become. I think this was a good move, hopefully Arnold will get something done, although I can already see the Dem controlled legislature cock blocking every little thing.

**I just heard that there is already a fund in upwards 3 million dollars to get the NEXT recall moving when politically in their favor.**

The_Dude · 10-07-2003, 07:45 PM

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Originally posted by Mojo_PeiPei
I saw the "honorable" Jesse Jackson on Hannity and Colmes saying that the Dems will likely challenge it in the morning or at the very least file for a recall of their own within the next few months.

yeah. i'm expecting that too.

they gotta make arnold the governor who served the shortest time in office.

sixate · 10-07-2003, 07:46 PM

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Originally posted by Mojo_PeiPei
I saw the "honorable" Jesse Jackson on Hannity and Colmes saying that the Dems will likely challenge it in the morning or at the very least file for a recall of their own within the next few months.

If the dems do that they'll look dumb as hell because they're basically saying that they don't want to give Arnold a chance because they're afraid that he might do good and make all of them look like idiots.

The_Dude · 10-07-2003, 07:50 PM

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Originally posted by sixate
If the dems do that they'll look dumb as hell because they're basically saying that they don't want to give Arnold a chance because they're afraid that he might do good and make all of them look like idiots.

no no, give him a little time to prove himself (which i doubt he'll do).

give him, say 11 months?

Mojo_PeiPei · 10-07-2003, 07:50 PM

I mean seriously, Gray Davis was a joke of a governor he had what like a 26% approval rating??? The economy was dive bombing and extremely un business friendly... what's the worse that could be done in a years time (or do they vote in 2006?) ?

gov135 · 10-07-2003, 07:51 PM

I was so disappointed to see that Californians appear to be overwhelmingly supporting a candidate that has not only not provided a platform but has almost made a joke out of not having one.

Mojo_PeiPei · 10-07-2003, 07:54 PM

I find it refreshing that Arnold didn't have all the answers, hopefully that will leave him open to compromise and getting some shit done.

BTW he most definently had a platform, he was an ultra liberal republican who was anti-gun, pro-choice, and anti-taxes... sounds like a sound platform to me.

Food Eater Lad · 10-07-2003, 07:54 PM

Look who the compitition was, a joke inept governor, and a racist sepratist. Arnold was the ONLY choice. That or Gary Coleman.

sixate · 10-07-2003, 07:56 PM

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Originally posted by gov135
I was so disappointed to see that Californians appear to be overwhelmingly supporting a candidate that has not only not provided a platform but has almost made a joke out of not having one.

But don't you think the real problem is that the citizens of the state have no faith in their politicians?

The_Dude · 10-07-2003, 07:57 PM

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Originally posted by Food Eater Lad
Look who the compitition was, a joke inept governor, and a racist sepratist. Arnold was the ONLY choice. That or Gary Coleman.

Marey Carey.

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I think that governor Arnold is more of an idiot than president gwb.

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I was so disappointed to see that Californians appear to be overwhelmingly supporting a candidate that has not only not provided a platform but has almost made a joke out of not having one.

I dont think Arnold even know what he stood for. The guy was afraid of going to debates where the questions were presented in advance. How can a guy that doesnt know his own platform run a state as large as CA ?

sixate · 10-07-2003, 08:01 PM

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Originally posted by The_Dude
How can a guy that doesnt know his own platform run a state as large as CA ?

How do you know he can't run the state? Some simple facts. Arnold is a winner. He succeeds at everything he does. He will surround himself with people who will help him.

Lastly, IMO, he's in a no win situation and I think most people think the same.

QuasiMojo · 10-07-2003, 08:03 PM

I think it was a smart thing to do...to not debate if he was not ready. dig?

Mojo_PeiPei · 10-07-2003, 08:05 PM

If all else fails he can always travel back in time and terminate problems before they start right?

maximusveritas · 10-07-2003, 08:10 PM

Arnold was elected solely because of his fame and the high anti-Davis turnout. His whole campaign consisted of concealing how ignorant and incompetent he is.
His name got him into the governor's mansion, but it won't run the state of California. He's going to need to do that himself.

the_marq · 10-07-2003, 08:12 PM

...and America has become an international laughing stock.

I can't believe that intelligent people would vote for a man with no experience, no platform and no credibility. Sure, I could see a few college students getting loaded and going to the polls to vote ARNIE!

but man, what a joke

Mojo_PeiPei · 10-07-2003, 08:16 PM

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Originally posted by the_marq
...and America has become an international laughing stock.

I can't believe that intelligent people would vote for a man with no experience, no platform and no credibility. Sure, I could see a few college students getting loaded and going to the polls to vote ARNIE!

but man, what a joke

We are of the belief that any citizen has the right to hold office. He hasn't proven himself to be faulty yet, so don't make such accusations. Besides I think alot of people would rather have someone like Arnold in office rather then a career politician.

HarmlessRabbit · 10-07-2003, 08:18 PM

I voted today. At least I can say in two years that it wasn't my fault.

Ustwo · 10-07-2003, 08:19 PM

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I can't believe that intelligent people would vote for a man with no experience, no platform and no credibility. Sure, I could see a few college students getting loaded and going to the polls to vote ARNIE!

I think it was the men with 'experience' that led to what is basiclly a popular revolt. Arnold didn't just win, he won with what appears to be a MAJORITY vote. He didn't need it, but he got it.

Whats also amusing is that 60+% of California voted for a republican in this election, if that doesn't scare the crap ouf of the Democrat/Socialists nothing will.

Macheath · 10-07-2003, 08:19 PM

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Originally posted by The_Dude
no no, give him a little time to prove himself (which i doubt he'll do).

give him, say 11 months?

He doesn't really need to be in for a great long time anyway. Just enough time to deliver California to Bush in 2004. Then he can do whatever he wants, maybe make a movie or something - leave a trusted and impartial adviser like Pete Wilson to the day to day running of things.

QuasiMojo · 10-07-2003, 08:23 PM

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Originally posted by maximusveritas
Arnold was elected solely because of his fame and the high anti-Davis turnout. His whole campaign consisted of concealing how ignorant and incompetent he is.
His name got him into the governor's mansion, but it won't run the state of California. He's going to need to do that himself.

huzza!

MuadDib · 10-07-2003, 08:30 PM

I hope they do recall him. The use of the recall in this sense is a complete joke and it sickens me.

BTW how can their be such an assured victory when less than 20% of precints have reported and its 55/45?

HarmlessRabbit · 10-07-2003, 08:40 PM

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Originally posted by MuadDib
BTW how can their be such an assured victory when less than 20% of precints have reported and its 55/45?

Statistically, if you have a large enough sample, the sample tends to mirror the overall results. While statisticians get paid a lot of money to correct for this error or that, the basic truth is that if you have a random sample of people to start with you can pretty accurately estimate how the end result is going to turn out. Twenty percent of precincts in CA is a hell of a lot of people.

Of course, that didn't work so well in the 2000 election, but that was a special case.

Zeld2.0 · 10-07-2003, 08:40 PM

who cares its california

actually right now im so fucking glad its ALL OVER becaue christ i was getting hella annoyed with all the recall shit

now i hope its a dead horse and the beating sticks get taken away

JBX · 10-07-2003, 08:44 PM

Good Morning Governor!

Ustwo · 10-07-2003, 08:47 PM

How can you liberals be whining so baddly.

This was almost PURE democracy in action.

The people voted, it was a majority, a HORRIBLE gov was removed.

Maybe Arnold will suck, maybe he won't, maybe he will get lucky, but this was the will of the people. Oh wait I remember, liberals only care about the will of the people if its for the RIGHT(left) people.

MuadDib · 10-07-2003, 08:48 PM

We can "whine" because the recall was not meant to be used in this manner and it sets a horrible precident.

Ustwo · 10-07-2003, 08:54 PM

What manner was it ment to be used?

This wasn't even CLOSE. Davis was reviled. I think we need more of this in government. If this were a republican you would be dancing in the streets.

Food Eater Lad · 10-07-2003, 08:59 PM

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Originally posted by MuadDib
We can "whine" because the recall was not meant to be used in this manner and it sets a horrible precident.

What he means is that if Bustamante won, it would have been done correctly.

MuadDib · 10-07-2003, 09:00 PM

The recall wasn't meant to be used in order to end a term midway just because support is lost no matter how grossly. The intended use is for it to be exercised only in times of extreme corruption or misconduct. While most democrats won't even tell you that Davis was a great politician, most will tell you that the economy out there was not his fault and that his administration was free of corruption.

Shagg · 10-07-2003, 09:04 PM

"Free of corruption" uh huh. Ya know I got this bridge...

MuadDib · 10-07-2003, 09:06 PM

Okay, by comparative standards

Ustwo · 10-07-2003, 09:07 PM

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Originally posted by MuadDib
most will tell you that the economy out there was not his fault and that his administration was free of corruption.

And this belief my friend, is why they lost.

Kadath · 10-07-2003, 09:15 PM

I'm disheartened by the idea that the governor will be nothing more than a figurehead, a way the party got into office. He's got no political experience, and he wouldn't have been elected in a real election. But hey, whatever. Watch the country go to hell in a handbasket. I like my mayor, Rendell. He's a solid guy, and you know what else? He can run for president! Sorry, Arnold. Demolition Man notwithstanding, this is as far as you go. GOD WILLING.

MuadDib · 10-07-2003, 09:16 PM

Can you honestly tell me that you think there was something he (or for that matter any single governor) could do when a nation wide economy hits and your state suffers? I mean, my state has had to cut way back on its spending to offset the impacts of the war we waged in Iraq. Hell, my university had to cut a flaming crap ton of its programs, but we aren't foolish enough to believe that it is our governors fault or that he really could have done anything about it.

Mojo_PeiPei · 10-07-2003, 09:24 PM

Maybe if you didn't give benefits to people who weren't from this country... or grant 30,000 sex changes to state workers with tax payer money???

MuadDib · 10-07-2003, 09:25 PM

Those are legislative decisions though, not gubernatorial ones.

Gertie · 10-07-2003, 09:25 PM

Yep, it's the will of the people all right. Unfuckingbelievable. Davis was ten months into his second term. What did everyone know now that they didn't know when they reelected him? I don't defend Davis but I don't revile him either. All states are facing critical financial problems. This was a political event generated largely by one man with the money to make it happen. Once again the herd just followed. And now they have voted in Arnold. Jesus, even Jesse Ventura had been a mayor first. Spare me the righteous and highfallootin' diatribe about citizen government and the American Dream. California is bigger than most countries. What a bunch of media mesmerized sheep. Life is stranger than fiction. Well California, enjoy your adulation. You've got a big strong daddy to take care of you now. Everyone can go back to sleep.

Phaenx · 10-07-2003, 09:29 PM

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Originally posted by sixate
I love this. I'm gonna laugh myself to sleep and laugh all day at work tomorrow.

Come to think of it I have something else to laugh about:

Need help packing your bags?

On a serious note. All politicians need to start doing their jobs because people obviously don't trust any of them.

Did you see those guys who parked a U-Haul truck outside the Governers mansion (or where-ever) there?

That's comedy. Mean to be sure, but hey, we get shit from everyone but Leno =).

10-07-2003, 07:44 PM	#3 (permalink)
Mojo_PeiPei Kiss of Death Location: Perpetual wind and sorrow	I saw the "honorable" Jesse Jackson on Hannity and Colmes saying that the Dems will likely challenge it in the morning or at the very least file for a recall of their own within the next few months. At any rate what a circus this will become. I think this was a good move, hopefully Arnold will get something done, although I can already see the Dem controlled legislature cock blocking every little thing. I just heard that there is already a fund in upwards 3 million dollars to get the NEXT recall moving when politically in their favor. __________________ To win a war you must serve no master but your ambition. Last edited by Mojo_PeiPei; 10-07-2003 at 07:48 PM..

10-07-2003, 07:50 PM	#7 (permalink)
Mojo_PeiPei Kiss of Death Location: Perpetual wind and sorrow	I mean seriously, Gray Davis was a joke of a governor he had what like a 26% approval rating??? The economy was dive bombing and extremely un business friendly... what's the worse that could be done in a years time (or do they vote in 2006?) ? __________________ To win a war you must serve no master but your ambition.

10-07-2003, 07:54 PM	#9 (permalink)
Mojo_PeiPei Kiss of Death Location: Perpetual wind and sorrow	I find it refreshing that Arnold didn't have all the answers, hopefully that will leave him open to compromise and getting some shit done. BTW he most definently had a platform, he was an ultra liberal republican who was anti-gun, pro-choice, and anti-taxes... sounds like a sound platform to me. __________________ To win a war you must serve no master but your ambition.

10-07-2003, 08:03 PM	#14 (permalink)
QuasiMojo King Knave Location: Lancaster	I think it was a smart thing to do...to not debate if he was not ready. dig? __________________ AzAbOv ZoBeLoE

10-07-2003, 08:05 PM	#15 (permalink)
Mojo_PeiPei Kiss of Death Location: Perpetual wind and sorrow	If all else fails he can always travel back in time and terminate problems before they start right? __________________ To win a war you must serve no master but your ambition.

10-07-2003, 07:51 PM	#8 (permalink)
gov135 Junkie Location: Midwest	I was so disappointed to see that Californians appear to be overwhelmingly supporting a candidate that has not only not provided a platform but has almost made a joke out of not having one.

10-07-2003, 07:54 PM	#10 (permalink)
Food Eater Lad Banned	Look who the compitition was, a joke inept governor, and a racist sepratist. Arnold was the ONLY choice. That or Gary Coleman.

10-07-2003, 08:10 PM	#16 (permalink)
maximusveritas Winner	Arnold was elected solely because of his fame and the high anti-Davis turnout. His whole campaign consisted of concealing how ignorant and incompetent he is. His name got him into the governor's mansion, but it won't run the state of California. He's going to need to do that himself.

10-07-2003, 08:12 PM	#17 (permalink)
the_marq All hail the Mountain King Location: Black Mesa	...and America has become an international laughing stock. I can't believe that intelligent people would vote for a man with no experience, no platform and no credibility. Sure, I could see a few college students getting loaded and going to the polls to vote ARNIE! but man, what a joke __________________ The Truth: Johnny Cash could have kicked Bruce Lee's ass if he wanted to. #3 in a series

10-07-2003, 08:18 PM	#19 (permalink)
HarmlessRabbit Junkie Location: San Jose, CA	I voted today. At least I can say in two years that it wasn't my fault.

10-07-2003, 08:30 PM	#23 (permalink)
MuadDib Psycho	I hope they do recall him. The use of the recall in this sense is a complete joke and it sickens me. BTW how can their be such an assured victory when less than 20% of precints have reported and its 55/45? __________________ "The courts that first rode the warhorse of virtual representation into battle on the res judicata front invested their steed with near-magical properties." ~27 F.3d 751

10-07-2003, 08:40 PM	#25 (permalink)
Zeld2.0 Cherry-pickin' devil's advocate Location: Los Angeles	who cares its california actually right now im so fucking glad its ALL OVER becaue christ i was getting hella annoyed with all the recall shit now i hope its a dead horse and the beating sticks get taken away

10-07-2003, 08:44 PM	#26 (permalink)
JBX Unfair and Imbalanced Location: Upstate, NY	Good Morning Governor! __________________ "Youth and Strength is no match for Age and Treachery"

10-07-2003, 08:47 PM	#27 (permalink)
Ustwo Pissing in the cornflakes	How can you liberals be whining so baddly. This was almost PURE democracy in action. The people voted, it was a majority, a HORRIBLE gov was removed. Maybe Arnold will suck, maybe he won't, maybe he will get lucky, but this was the will of the people. Oh wait I remember, liberals only care about the will of the people if its for the RIGHT(left) people. __________________ Agents of the enemies who hold office in our own government, who attempt to eliminate our "freedoms" and our "right to know" are posting among us, I fear.....on this very forum. - host Obama - Know a Man by the friends he keeps.

10-07-2003, 08:48 PM	#28 (permalink)
MuadDib Psycho	We can "whine" because the recall was not meant to be used in this manner and it sets a horrible precident. __________________ "The courts that first rode the warhorse of virtual representation into battle on the res judicata front invested their steed with near-magical properties." ~27 F.3d 751

10-07-2003, 08:54 PM	#29 (permalink)
Ustwo Pissing in the cornflakes	What manner was it ment to be used? This wasn't even CLOSE. Davis was reviled. I think we need more of this in government. If this were a republican you would be dancing in the streets. __________________ Agents of the enemies who hold office in our own government, who attempt to eliminate our "freedoms" and our "right to know" are posting among us, I fear.....on this very forum. - host Obama - Know a Man by the friends he keeps.

10-07-2003, 09:00 PM	#31 (permalink)
MuadDib Psycho	The recall wasn't meant to be used in order to end a term midway just because support is lost no matter how grossly. The intended use is for it to be exercised only in times of extreme corruption or misconduct. While most democrats won't even tell you that Davis was a great politician, most will tell you that the economy out there was not his fault and that his administration was free of corruption. __________________ "The courts that first rode the warhorse of virtual representation into battle on the res judicata front invested their steed with near-magical properties." ~27 F.3d 751

10-07-2003, 09:04 PM	#32 (permalink)
Shagg What day is it? Location: Downey, CA	"Free of corruption" uh huh. Ya know I got this bridge...

10-07-2003, 09:06 PM	#33 (permalink)
MuadDib Psycho	Okay, by comparative standards __________________ "The courts that first rode the warhorse of virtual representation into battle on the res judicata front invested their steed with near-magical properties." ~27 F.3d 751

10-07-2003, 09:15 PM	#35 (permalink)
Kadath Muffled Location: Camazotz	I'm disheartened by the idea that the governor will be nothing more than a figurehead, a way the party got into office. He's got no political experience, and he wouldn't have been elected in a real election. But hey, whatever. Watch the country go to hell in a handbasket. I like my mayor, Rendell. He's a solid guy, and you know what else? He can run for president! Sorry, Arnold. Demolition Man notwithstanding, this is as far as you go. GOD WILLING. __________________ it's quiet in here

10-07-2003, 09:16 PM	#36 (permalink)
MuadDib Psycho	Can you honestly tell me that you think there was something he (or for that matter any single governor) could do when a nation wide economy hits and your state suffers? I mean, my state has had to cut way back on its spending to offset the impacts of the war we waged in Iraq. Hell, my university had to cut a flaming crap ton of its programs, but we aren't foolish enough to believe that it is our governors fault or that he really could have done anything about it. __________________ "The courts that first rode the warhorse of virtual representation into battle on the res judicata front invested their steed with near-magical properties." ~27 F.3d 751

10-07-2003, 09:24 PM	#37 (permalink)
Mojo_PeiPei Kiss of Death Location: Perpetual wind and sorrow	Maybe if you didn't give benefits to people who weren't from this country... or grant 30,000 sex changes to state workers with tax payer money??? __________________ To win a war you must serve no master but your ambition.

10-07-2003, 09:25 PM	#38 (permalink)
MuadDib Psycho	Those are legislative decisions though, not gubernatorial ones. __________________ "The courts that first rode the warhorse of virtual representation into battle on the res judicata front invested their steed with near-magical properties." ~27 F.3d 751

10-07-2003, 09:25 PM	#39 (permalink)
Gertie Psycho	Yep, it's the will of the people all right. Unfuckingbelievable. Davis was ten months into his second term. What did everyone know now that they didn't know when they reelected him? I don't defend Davis but I don't revile him either. All states are facing critical financial problems. This was a political event generated largely by one man with the money to make it happen. Once again the herd just followed. And now they have voted in Arnold. Jesus, even Jesse Ventura had been a mayor first. Spare me the righteous and highfallootin' diatribe about citizen government and the American Dream. California is bigger than most countries. What a bunch of media mesmerized sheep. Life is stranger than fiction. Well California, enjoy your adulation. You've got a big strong daddy to take care of you now. Everyone can go back to sleep.