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John Henry · 10-28-2003, 11:48 AM

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Originally posted by lurkette
I don't know how to do correlational analyses, and I think they are generally suspect anyhow, but here are some simple data about the responses so far:

Mean IQ (taking out anything above 160):
139

Either people are fudging their scores high, or the test is completely invalid, or respondents are self-selecting for high IQs, or we represent a highly skewed sample, or all of the above.

Mean political compass response:
Economic Left/Right: -2.71
Libertarian/Authoritarian: -3.25

And just for shits and giggles, here's a scatter plot of our positions on the political compass:

We are a bunch of dirty commies! (Actually, I object to labeling that side of the axis "communist" - it's a politically loaded term and I'm sure most of us don't align with the actual values of communism per se.)

Anybody with some stats background care to take a stab at some more sophisticated analyses?

Cheers Lurkette, I was just about to make a post saying what a cretin I am as I can't work out how to post the plots I've made of the data. If you could tell me how you did it, I can post my plots of IQ vs each of the other data. It's a bit tricky cos the data are skewed, but there is some kind of trend.

Plazma · 10-29-2003, 04:05 PM

Economic Left/Right: -4.12
Libertarian/Authoritarian: -1.95

IQ: 130

IQ tests seem to only test your book smarts. IQ means little in the real world.

lurkette · 10-30-2003, 09:00 AM

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Originally posted by John Henry
Cheers Lurkette, I was just about to make a post saying what a cretin I am as I can't work out how to post the plots I've made of the data. If you could tell me how you did it, I can post my plots of IQ vs each of the other data. It's a bit tricky cos the data are skewed, but there is some kind of trend.

Hey JH. I just used Excel - selected the data, chose a scatter graph, and gave it min and max values for the X and Y axes. I'm afraid that exhausted my statistical capabilities

Anything you can add will be greatly appreciated.

John Henry · 10-30-2003, 11:09 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by lurkette
Hey JH. I just used Excel - selected the data, chose a scatter graph, and gave it min and max values for the X and Y axes. I'm afraid that exhausted my statistical capabilities Anything you can add will be greatly appreciated.

I didn't do much other than plotting a scatter, but I couldn't work out how to put my graphs into a post, so I was just wondering how you did it.

lurkette · 10-30-2003, 01:23 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by John Henry
I didn't do much other than plotting a scatter, but I couldn't work out how to put my graphs into a post, so I was just wondering how you did it.

I took a screen shot of the graph and pasted it into an image editing program, cropped it and saved it as a jpg.

Ustwo · 10-30-2003, 01:33 PM

I tried to be as wacky liberal/anarchist as I could and got
Your political compass
Economic Left/Right: -10.00
Libertarian/Authoritarian: -8.05

I wonder which ones I didn't get on the libertarian/authortarian side.

eple · 10-30-2003, 02:35 PM

you so crazy Utswo

yankeefatboy · 10-30-2003, 02:41 PM

well here goes; 129-IQ 3.5-l/r 2.8-pol.

Thanks for putting up with my lack of intelligence

bender · 10-30-2003, 03:09 PM

-3.88 and 1.85 just beside Gandhi and what is this IQ that you talk of ??

DesertDave · 10-31-2003, 10:55 AM

Since the Political compass gives historical names as reference points, I have provided a URL where one can match up the IQ scores with famous people:

http://home8.swipnet.se/~w-80790/Index.htm

irateplatypus · 11-09-2003, 01:18 AM

(1.38,-1.18) 144

nirol · 11-09-2003, 01:18 PM

IQ 143
L/R 4.62
Lib/Auth -0.41

I guess I am the right wing nut ball here, sorry to skew the curve, though with all the hi iqs here, I guess I prove the theory.

skippy · 11-09-2003, 08:49 PM

Economic Left/Right: -4.25
Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.90
IQ: 144

f00sion · 11-10-2003, 10:47 AM

(-4.50,-5.54) IQ: 139

dami³ · 11-10-2003, 10:48 PM

IQ: 136
Economic Left/Right: -0.12
Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.69

Btw if people are still interested: I could do a multi-variate regression analysis, check for IQ/compass corelations and see how statistically significant they are with the statistical software package SPSS.

John Henry · 11-11-2003, 01:12 PM

would appreciate it if you could. I was just going to do a coupla sucky scatter graphs, but I couldn't even manage that.

Ustwo · 11-11-2003, 01:33 PM

Its nice to know that the TFP has such a concentration of geniuses and near geniuses.

All brought together, for their love of boobies.

dami³ · 11-12-2003, 12:21 AM

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Originally posted by John Henry
would appreciate it if you could. I was just going to do a coupla sucky scatter graphs, but I couldn't even manage that.

Ok, I'll post the results later this week

SofaKing · 11-13-2003, 03:16 PM

(-3.50, -4.92) & 183 baby yeah.
Edit: High IQ, but I can prove it, I think. Also, IQ doesnt mean much, what about formal education?

dami³ · 11-14-2003, 08:12 PM

Here are the results of the analysis:

-Means

IQ: mean = 140.65, standard deviation = 12.94 (with N = 57)
Economic Left/Right: mean = -2.31, standard deviation = 3.88 (with N = 59)
Libertarian/Authoritarian: mean = -3.15, standard deviation = 3.12 (with N = 59)

-Correlations (2 tailed pearson correlation)

IQ vs. Economic Left/Right = 0.022, statistical significanse: p = 0.873
-> absolutely no correlation, any correlation that exist is purely due to chance
IQ vs Libertarian/Authoritarian = - 0.129, statistical significanse: p = 0.339
-> very small negative correlation, however the correlation that exist is purely due to chance
Economic Left/Right vs Libertarian/Authoritarian = 0.598, statistical significance: p < 0.01
-> strong correlation, fact that this correlation exist is very unlikely to be due to chance

Simply put:

- IQ has nothing whatsoever to do with ones political affiliation (at least not with the people who have participated on this thread).

- There's a strong relationship between ones political views regarding economics and Liberty/Authority - the more to the right one is on economical issues, the more one believes in tight authority structures.

-> oh well whatever, never mind

SirGoreaxe · 11-15-2003, 11:23 PM

Economic Left/Right: -4.25
Libertarian/Authoritarian: -1.69
and my IQ is 124
I stupid and bow down to thoes smater than me

taliendo · 11-16-2003, 09:07 PM

Politcal standing: (-5.38, -3.9)

IQ: 136

dragon2fire · 11-17-2003, 07:12 AM

(-3,-4)

iq 137

powder · 11-17-2003, 04:15 PM

-3.88
-6.67
144

2wolves · 11-18-2003, 12:01 PM

-6.00 x -5.69

Last tested out at 154

2wolves · 11-18-2003, 12:13 PM

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Originally posted by Ustwo
Cool idea, but pointless unless people are honnest. I rather doubt you will see many people putting an IQ of less then 120 reguardless of score.

There are also individuals who are good at taking tests (like myself) but who really did not do well on the day-to-day homework sort of effort.

2Wolves

tritium · 11-18-2003, 12:34 PM

Economic Left/Right: -4.50
Libertarian/Authoritarian: -0.41
IQ: 133

Elegant Holmes · 11-22-2003, 04:08 PM

I'm one of those 6 inch guys when it comes to IQ. My results on the test were:
-1
-1.49
I don't think that many of those questions are the "yes or no" variety. I scratched my head a lot.
I do not agree with my score.

89transam · 11-23-2003, 03:56 PM

Wow you are all uber-smart. Me, I guessed on EVERY question and got a 110.

i did it again and gueesd 'a' on every questoin and got a 82.

EDIT: And btw, who are some of you kidding. Socres approaching 160....please

Sunrise · 11-24-2003, 10:39 PM

Economic Left/Right: -5.62
Libertarian/Authoritarian: -1.03
iq: 127

Sho Nuff · 11-26-2003, 10:52 AM

IQ: 133

Your political compass
Economic Left/Right: -5.25
Libertarian/Authoritarian: -1.79

zfleebin · 11-28-2003, 10:57 PM

(-2.25, -3.38) and an IQ of 105

Ustwo · 11-29-2003, 12:24 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by 89transam
Wow you are all uber-smart. Me, I guessed on EVERY question and got a 110.

i did it again and gueesd 'a' on every questoin and got a 82.

EDIT: And btw, who are some of you kidding. Socres approaching 160....please

I randomly clicked and got.....

Quote:

Congratulations, fred!
Your IQ score is 95

This number is the result of a formula based on how many questions you answered correctly on Emode's Ultimate IQ test. Your IQ score is scientifically accurate; to read more about the science behind our IQ test, click here.

During the test, you answered four different types of questions — mathematical, visual-spatial, linguistic and logical. We were able to analyze how you did on of those questions, which reveals the way your brain processes information.

We also compared your answers with others who have taken the test, and according to the sorts of questions you got correct, we can tell your Intellectual Type is an Inventive Inquisitor.

You have the unusual distinction of being equally good at math and verbal skills. This means you are a creative thinker and are uniquely good at teaching others through experiences. You are also a great improviser and very good at handling change.

So I can conclude that average intelligence is just acting randomly. You know there MIGHT be something to that

John Henry · 11-29-2003, 02:35 AM

An Inventive Inquisitor! You must've been the guy who made up all the Spanish Inquisition's torture devices.

Moonduck · 11-30-2003, 08:01 AM

Economic Left/Right: 3.62
Libertarian/Authoritarian: -0.92
IQ: 139

ashap · 12-03-2003, 06:23 AM

Interesting set of questions. Somwhow I ended up in the same quadrant as the Dahli Lama - go figure.

Economic Left/Right: -3.38
Libertarian/Authoritarian: -3.79

IQ 120

iHawk · 12-03-2003, 07:43 AM

Economic Left/Right: -5.75
Libertarian/Authoritarian: -4.41

Graph here

IQ: 129
"iHawk, you are a Visual Mathematician."

Peetster · 12-03-2003, 08:04 AM

3.75, 0.67

The wording of some questions presuppose the outcome and make it impossible for some to answer. For example, on page 6 the question "It's fine for society to be open about sex, but these days it's going too far" can be broken into two statements. If you disagree with the first part, you might answer "strongly disagree". That answer will be interpreted as the exact opposite of what the tester intended, though. There were a number of these type of questions.

DesertDave · 12-10-2003, 03:36 PM

Repost:

Since the Political compass gives historical names as reference points, I have provided a URL where one can match up the IQ scores with famous people:

http://home8.swipnet.se/~w-80790/Index.htm

Locobot · 12-12-2003, 02:05 AM

HOLY SHIT! IQs around here are off the fucking charts!

It just so happens that my IQ is 277. I can tear steel with my thoughtwaves.

Let's start a "How much can you bench press?" thread real soon.

10-30-2003, 01:33 PM	#86 (permalink)
Ustwo Pissing in the cornflakes	I tried to be as wacky liberal/anarchist as I could and got Your political compass Economic Left/Right: -10.00 Libertarian/Authoritarian: -8.05 I wonder which ones I didn't get on the libertarian/authortarian side. __________________ Agents of the enemies who hold office in our own government, who attempt to eliminate our "freedoms" and our "right to know" are posting among us, I fear.....on this very forum. - host Obama - Know a Man by the friends he keeps.

11-09-2003, 01:18 AM	#91 (permalink)
irateplatypus can't help but laugh Location: dar al-harb	(1.38,-1.18) 144 __________________ If you will not fight when your victory will be sure and not too costly, you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance for survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves. ~ Winston Churchill

11-09-2003, 01:18 PM	#92 (permalink)
nirol Crazy Location: South East US	IQ 143 L/R 4.62 Lib/Auth -0.41 I guess I am the right wing nut ball here, sorry to skew the curve, though with all the hi iqs here, I guess I prove the theory. __________________ 'Tis better to remain silent and be thought a fool, than open one's mouth and remove all doubt. Samuel Johnson (1709 - 1784)

11-10-2003, 10:47 AM	#94 (permalink)
f00sion Tilted Location: So. Cali	(-4.50,-5.54) IQ: 139 __________________ Tell me what we’re fighting for— I don’t remember anymore, only temporary reprieve. And the world might cease if we fail to tame the beast; from the faith that you release comes an atheist peace.

11-11-2003, 01:12 PM	#96 (permalink)
John Henry Addict Location: Grey Britain	would appreciate it if you could. I was just going to do a coupla sucky scatter graphs, but I couldn't even manage that. __________________ "No one was behaving from very Buddhist motives. Then, thought Pigsy, he was hardly a Buddha, nor was he a monkey. Presently, he was a pig spirit changed into a little girl pretending to be a little boy to be offered to a water monster. It was all very simple to a pig spirit."

10-29-2003, 04:05 PM	#82 (permalink)
Plazma Upright	Economic Left/Right: -4.12 Libertarian/Authoritarian: -1.95 IQ: 130 IQ tests seem to only test your book smarts. IQ means little in the real world.

10-30-2003, 02:35 PM	#87 (permalink)
eple Banned Location: norway	you so crazy Utswo

10-30-2003, 02:41 PM	#88 (permalink)
yankeefatboy Addict Location: northern california	well here goes; 129-IQ 3.5-l/r 2.8-pol. Thanks for putting up with my lack of intelligence

10-30-2003, 03:09 PM	#89 (permalink)
bender Addict Location: around the corner	-3.88 and 1.85 just beside Gandhi and what is this IQ that you talk of ??

10-31-2003, 10:55 AM	#90 (permalink)
DesertDave Insane Location: Sonorahara	Since the Political compass gives historical names as reference points, I have provided a URL where one can match up the IQ scores with famous people: http://home8.swipnet.se/~w-80790/Index.htm

11-09-2003, 08:49 PM	#93 (permalink)
skippy Banned	Economic Left/Right: -4.25 Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.90 IQ: 144

11-10-2003, 10:48 PM	#95 (permalink)
dami³ Tilted Location: EU	IQ: 136 Economic Left/Right: -0.12 Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.69 Btw if people are still interested: I could do a multi-variate regression analysis, check for IQ/compass corelations and see how statistically significant they are with the statistical software package SPSS.

11-11-2003, 01:33 PM	#97 (permalink)
Ustwo Pissing in the cornflakes	Its nice to know that the TFP has such a concentration of geniuses and near geniuses. All brought together, for their love of boobies. __________________ Agents of the enemies who hold office in our own government, who attempt to eliminate our "freedoms" and our "right to know" are posting among us, I fear.....on this very forum. - host Obama - Know a Man by the friends he keeps.

11-13-2003, 03:16 PM	#99 (permalink)
SofaKing Tilted	(-3.50, -4.92) & 183 baby yeah. Edit: High IQ, but I can prove it, I think. Also, IQ doesnt mean much, what about formal education?

11-14-2003, 08:12 PM	#100 (permalink)
dami³ Tilted Location: EU	Here are the results of the analysis: -Means IQ: mean = 140.65, standard deviation = 12.94 (with N = 57) Economic Left/Right: mean = -2.31, standard deviation = 3.88 (with N = 59) Libertarian/Authoritarian: mean = -3.15, standard deviation = 3.12 (with N = 59) -Correlations (2 tailed pearson correlation) IQ vs. Economic Left/Right = 0.022, statistical significanse: p = 0.873 -> absolutely no correlation, any correlation that exist is purely due to chance IQ vs Libertarian/Authoritarian = - 0.129, statistical significanse: p = 0.339 -> very small negative correlation, however the correlation that exist is purely due to chance Economic Left/Right vs Libertarian/Authoritarian = 0.598, statistical significance: p < 0.01 -> strong correlation, fact that this correlation exist is very unlikely to be due to chance Simply put: - IQ has nothing whatsoever to do with ones political affiliation (at least not with the people who have participated on this thread). - There's a strong relationship between ones political views regarding economics and Liberty/Authority - the more to the right one is on economical issues, the more one believes in tight authority structures. -> oh well whatever, never mind

11-17-2003, 07:12 AM	#103 (permalink)
dragon2fire Junkie	(-3,-4) iq 137

11-17-2003, 04:15 PM	#104 (permalink)
powder Loser Location: ski town	-3.88 -6.67 144

11-18-2003, 12:01 PM	#105 (permalink)
2wolves Psycho Location: Just outside the D.C. belt	-6.00 x -5.69 Last tested out at 154

11-15-2003, 11:23 PM	#101 (permalink)
SirGoreaxe Tilted Location: Bremerton, WA	Economic Left/Right: -4.25 Libertarian/Authoritarian: -1.69 and my IQ is 124 I stupid and bow down to thoes smater than me __________________ (;þ "You can't change what has happened, but you can make the best of it, and make better decisions from the past." (Unless there is a quick edit button.)

11-16-2003, 09:07 PM	#102 (permalink)
taliendo Insane Location: an indelible crawl through the gutters	Politcal standing: (-5.38, -3.9) IQ: 136 __________________ -LIFE IS ABSURD-

11-18-2003, 12:34 PM	#107 (permalink)
tritium Professor of Drinkology	Economic Left/Right: -4.50 Libertarian/Authoritarian: -0.41 IQ: 133 __________________ Blah.

11-22-2003, 04:08 PM	#108 (permalink)
Elegant Holmes Crazy Location: "TX"	I'm one of those 6 inch guys when it comes to IQ. My results on the test were: -1 -1.49 I don't think that many of those questions are the "yes or no" variety. I scratched my head a lot. I do not agree with my score.

11-23-2003, 03:56 PM	#109 (permalink)
89transam Psycho Location: Central California	Wow you are all uber-smart. Me, I guessed on EVERY question and got a 110. i did it again and gueesd 'a' on every questoin and got a 82. EDIT: And btw, who are some of you kidding. Socres approaching 160....please __________________ I'd rather be rich than stupid.

11-24-2003, 10:39 PM	#110 (permalink)
Sunrise Crazy Location: Melbourne, Australia	Economic Left/Right: -5.62 Libertarian/Authoritarian: -1.03 iq: 127

11-26-2003, 10:52 AM	#111 (permalink)
Sho Nuff Addict Location: Harlem	IQ: 133 Your political compass Economic Left/Right: -5.25 Libertarian/Authoritarian: -1.79 __________________ I know Nietzsche doesnt rhyme with peachy, but you sound like a pretentious prick when you correct me.

11-28-2003, 10:57 PM	#112 (permalink)
zfleebin Addict	(-2.25, -3.38) and an IQ of 105

11-29-2003, 02:35 AM	#114 (permalink)
John Henry Addict Location: Grey Britain	An Inventive Inquisitor! You must've been the guy who made up all the Spanish Inquisition's torture devices. __________________ "No one was behaving from very Buddhist motives. Then, thought Pigsy, he was hardly a Buddha, nor was he a monkey. Presently, he was a pig spirit changed into a little girl pretending to be a little boy to be offered to a water monster. It was all very simple to a pig spirit."

11-30-2003, 08:01 AM	#115 (permalink)
Moonduck Junkie Location: SE USA	Economic Left/Right: 3.62 Libertarian/Authoritarian: -0.92 IQ: 139

12-03-2003, 06:23 AM	#116 (permalink)
ashap Crazy Location: Great white north	Interesting set of questions. Somwhow I ended up in the same quadrant as the Dahli Lama - go figure. Economic Left/Right: -3.38 Libertarian/Authoritarian: -3.79 IQ 120

12-03-2003, 07:43 AM	#117 (permalink)
iHawk Upright Location: good ol' germany	Economic Left/Right: -5.75 Libertarian/Authoritarian: -4.41 Graph here IQ: 129 "iHawk, you are a Visual Mathematician." __________________ Die Welt ist dumm und ich erst recht

12-03-2003, 08:04 AM	#118 (permalink)
Peetster Right Now Location: Home	3.75, 0.67 The wording of some questions presuppose the outcome and make it impossible for some to answer. For example, on page 6 the question "It's fine for society to be open about sex, but these days it's going too far" can be broken into two statements. If you disagree with the first part, you might answer "strongly disagree". That answer will be interpreted as the exact opposite of what the tester intended, though. There were a number of these type of questions.

12-10-2003, 03:36 PM	#119 (permalink)
DesertDave Insane Location: Sonorahara	Repost: Since the Political compass gives historical names as reference points, I have provided a URL where one can match up the IQ scores with famous people: http://home8.swipnet.se/~w-80790/Index.htm

12-12-2003, 02:05 AM	#120 (permalink)
Locobot is awesome!	HOLY SHIT! IQs around here are off the fucking charts! It just so happens that my IQ is 277. I can tear steel with my thoughtwaves. Let's start a "How much can you bench press?" thread real soon. Last edited by Locobot; 12-12-2003 at 02:07 AM..