Communists Goals obtained yet? - Tilted Forum Project Discussion Community

mrsandman · 09-10-2003, 02:59 PM

I think they're well on their way, how about you? and...

Why don't they call them "Chinese communists" anymore?
(Pay particular attention to the numbers from 15 on)

http://www.uhuh.com/nwo/communism/co...tm#Documention

2wolves · 09-10-2003, 04:02 PM

For a large number of obvious reasons.

The first of which is that the P.R.C. is slowly but steadily evolving into a proto-capitalist economy. Yes, there is still an unhealthly level of corruption and central government involvment but China is willing to emulate the Nippon model and go for dominance in matters business not invasion.

Hong Kong is being kept as a living laboratory in how the P.R.C. can integrate aggressive business plans with an agrarian nation of over one billion citizens.

For a nation with over four thousand plus years of recorded civilization getting excited about the past sixty years comes off as -ah- petty.

2Wolves

Macheath · 09-10-2003, 05:12 PM

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5. Centralization of credit in the hands of the State, by means of a national bank with state capital and an exclusive monopoly.

We call it the Federal Reserve which is a credit/debt system nationally organized by the Federal Reserve act of 1913. All local banks are members of the Fed system, and are regulated by the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation (FDIC).

If the Fed is communist then just about every country in the world is 'red'.

chavos · 09-10-2003, 07:14 PM

anti-Federal Reserve sentiment is about the oldest fight in american politics. funny to see it's not dead. i wonder if the author took intro econ...even with that back ground they might understand how such systems shorten the response time of the economy to changes to limit the shock. oh well. in alan we trust...

Zeld2.0 · 09-10-2003, 07:49 PM

all i can say is..

the author seems to forget those arguments have been going around years and years and years before communism was even on the mind of marx

oh well i guess he loses!

cynic · 09-11-2003, 11:10 AM

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Originally posted by 2wolves

For a nation with over four thousand plus years of recorded civilization getting excited about the past sixty years comes off as -ah- petty.

2Wolves

Just a comment, but, The last 60 years have contained more social change around the world than any other period in history. For instance there have been more inventions in the last one hundred years than the whole of human history, there have been more inventions in the last 10 years than the previous 90. The availabilty to mass transport, communication, disease, capitalism, and so on has never been the same. 60 years in say the 14th century is not very important but in current social climes, 60 years is an entire structure of development akin, in the case of some countries, of peasent agricultural societies largely bypassing an industrial revolution and going straight to informaitonal society.

60 years is far from petty.

mrsandman · 09-13-2003, 08:24 AM

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Originally posted by Zeld2.0
all i can say is..

the author seems to forget those arguments have been going around years and years and years before communism was even on the mind of marx

oh well i guess he loses!

What's that got to do with the commuinists goals of 1963?

(most of which have already been obtained, while we were
sleeping)

2wolves · 09-14-2003, 12:05 PM

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Originally posted by cynic
Just a comment, but, The last 60 years have contained more social change around the world than any other period in history. For instance there have been more inventions in the last one hundred years than the whole of human history, there have been more inventions in the last 10 years than the previous 90. The availabilty to mass transport, communication, disease, capitalism, and so on has never been the same. 60 years in say the 14th century is not very important but in current social climes, 60 years is an entire structure of development akin, in the case of some countries, of peasent agricultural societies largely bypassing an industrial revolution and going straight to informaitonal society.

60 years is far from petty.

More 'social change?' In the context of the P.R.C. please expand as in my view you still have a population that is largely based on a serf/peon farmer model.

2Wolves

09-10-2003, 02:59 PM	#1 (permalink)
mrsandman Addict Location: 3rd coast area	Communists Goals obtained yet? I think they're well on their way, how about you? and... Why don't they call them "Chinese communists" anymore? (Pay particular attention to the numbers from 15 on) http://www.uhuh.com/nwo/communism/co...tm#Documention __________________ Hail to ALL the troops and shadow warriors. Last edited by mrsandman; 09-10-2003 at 09:31 PM..

09-10-2003, 04:02 PM	#2 (permalink)
2wolves Psycho Location: Just outside the D.C. belt	For a large number of obvious reasons. The first of which is that the P.R.C. is slowly but steadily evolving into a proto-capitalist economy. Yes, there is still an unhealthly level of corruption and central government involvment but China is willing to emulate the Nippon model and go for dominance in matters business not invasion. Hong Kong is being kept as a living laboratory in how the P.R.C. can integrate aggressive business plans with an agrarian nation of over one billion citizens. For a nation with over four thousand plus years of recorded civilization getting excited about the past sixty years comes off as -ah- petty. 2Wolves

09-10-2003, 07:14 PM	#4 (permalink)
chavos Banned Location: St. Paul, MN	anti-Federal Reserve sentiment is about the oldest fight in american politics. funny to see it's not dead. i wonder if the author took intro econ...even with that back ground they might understand how such systems shorten the response time of the economy to changes to limit the shock. oh well. in alan we trust...

09-10-2003, 07:49 PM	#5 (permalink)
Zeld2.0 Cherry-pickin' devil's advocate Location: Los Angeles	all i can say is.. the author seems to forget those arguments have been going around years and years and years before communism was even on the mind of marx oh well i guess he loses!