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Old 09-11-2003, 01:57 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Bush Resignation Hailed by World Leaders

I'm genuinely surprised that nobody caught this yet.

By Greg Palast: Bush Resignation Hailed by World Leaders

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The surprise resignation of the forty-third President of the United States, George W. Bush, on the second anniversary of the terrorist attack on America, was hailed by chiefs of state throughout the world. Mr. Bush announced that after, "two years of bloodshed, economic devastation, and spreading fear in America and abroad," he saw no choice but to accept that, "I have held a title which I did not win, and for which I have proven unqualified."
Oh, if only. For the record: Greg Palast is a stupendous badass.
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Old 09-11-2003, 02:04 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Wow, that's the biggest heap of rubbish I've ever read.
Can I have the two minutes of my life back I spent reading it?
Pleeeease?
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Old 09-11-2003, 02:35 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Wow, that's the biggest heap of rubbish I've ever read.
Interesting. I found it to be a brilliant bit of satire.
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Can I have the two minutes of my life back I spent reading it?
Pleeeease?
Sure. Soon as you give me back the ~3 years of my life since Florida2K.
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Old 09-11-2003, 02:45 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Old 09-11-2003, 02:48 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Wow, that's the biggest heap of rubbish I've ever read.
Can I have the two minutes of my life back I spent reading it?
Pleeeease?
You make me sad.

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Old 09-11-2003, 02:49 PM   #6 (permalink)
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You guys never play nice, do you?

Well, I don't know if we'd be better off if he resigned. I think it would be best to pass the torch the traditional way instead of just borrow from the same exec structure we've been using for the past few years.
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Old 09-11-2003, 03:02 PM   #7 (permalink)
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You guys never play nice, do you?
Nope, It's difficult for ***both*** sides to understand how the opposite viewpoint can be so far off the mark.
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Old 09-11-2003, 03:38 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Even if he did resign, isn't cheney in charge anyway?
The puppetmaster throws the puppet aside and steps into full view?
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Old 09-11-2003, 03:51 PM   #9 (permalink)
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How about vote for what you agree with. Excuse my french, but fuck anyone who votes party. You are what makes American elections absolutely, stupendously idiotic.
Vote for the best candidate you can find.
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Old 09-11-2003, 04:09 PM   #10 (permalink)
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I thought it was the electoral college that made elections idiodic?
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Old 09-11-2003, 05:49 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Even if he did resign, isn't cheney in charge anyway?
The puppetmaster throws the puppet aside and steps into full view?
So true and the scarriest thing I could ever imagine! I got to meet Greg Palast last Saturday! His book "the Best Democracy Money Can Buy" has pissed me off like no other (except Hightower's who I also met). I think my grandkids history books will be written from Greg's research.....
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Old 09-11-2003, 06:07 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Even if he did resign, isn't cheney in charge anyway?
The puppetmaster throws the puppet aside and steps into full view?
I'm rather suprised Air Force 1 hasnt seen an "accident" or "terrorist strike" yet to be honest lol. Gotta find a country to blame it on though... there's always Yasser Arafat.

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How about vote for what you agree with. Excuse my french, but fuck anyone who votes party. You are what makes American elections absolutely, stupendously idiotic.
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I thought it was the electoral college that made elections idiodic?
...a little from column A, a little from column B.
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Old 09-11-2003, 07:15 PM   #13 (permalink)
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I HATE YOU!!! My heart has never jumped so much in my life! I mean, though from the start I was thinking that this was pure rubbish the little hope there was started to creak in and then I was devistated when the inevitable came true and he was still here.
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Old 09-12-2003, 06:29 AM   #14 (permalink)
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I HATE YOU!!! My heart has never jumped so much in my life! I mean, though from the start I was thinking that this was pure rubbish the little hope there was started to creak in and then I was devistated when the inevitable came true and he was still here.
... Sorry, dude. If it helps, that's how I felt this morning when I first found the piece. It wasn't until I got a few grafs in that I realized that Palast was being disgustingly clever. It's funny as hell all the same, though.
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Old 09-12-2003, 06:37 AM   #15 (permalink)
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First Cheney should resign, then Bush could nominate a way lefty.

Then he resigns, and then we could get moonchild and flower sue to lead us in a huge national sing along of peace and love songs.
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Old 09-12-2003, 12:39 PM   #16 (permalink)
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I can't believe people are still whimpering about Florida.
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Old 09-12-2003, 05:34 PM   #17 (permalink)
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Yeah, we should just forget about how our president was chosen for us by money and closed-door politics rather than through an majority votes or even the electoral college procedures. I mean, what does it matter if the very foundation of our democracy is shown to be a fraud and that gets us appointed leaders? People in the minority communities in particular shouldn't be upset because even though their votes in particular were tossed aside in Florida (particularly Palm Beach county) they should all know that the Florida courts know better than they do rather the their boss's, the governor's, brother was duly elected or not. Forget the implications for democracy, our way of life, civil liberties, the constitution, and higer values like justice. It's all in the past...

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Old 09-12-2003, 07:36 PM   #18 (permalink)
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Yeah, we should just forget about how our president was chosen for us by money and closed-door politics rather than through an majority votes or even the electoral college procedures. I mean, what does it matter if the very foundation of our democracy is shown to be a fraud and that gets us appointed leaders? People in the minority communities in particular shouldn't be upset because even though their votes in particular were tossed aside in Florida (particularly Palm Beach county) they should all know that the Florida courts know better than they do rather the their boss's, the governor's, brother was duly elected or not. Forget the implications for democracy, our way of life, civil liberties, the constitution, and higer values like justice. It's all in the past...
..but instead of demonstrate your disgust for the manipulation of our electoral and legal systems by rallying for change, you're going to just turn over and vote for another corrupt career-politician and pretend that they are different than the ones you rail against. There were dirty political maneuvers going on by both sides -- to pretend that either Gore or Bush were trying to do anything but get elected for their own means is naive. Republicans and Democrats have only one interest in mind -- staying in office. Until you realize that and want to see real change of our political/legal/electoral system, spare me the whimpering he-did-she-did nonsense.
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Old 09-12-2003, 07:52 PM   #19 (permalink)
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The lesser of two evils, maybe? I wonder what the world would be like right now if gore were in office? Maybe better, maybe worse, depending on your alignment. I think we can all agree that if gore were in charge, we wouldn't have a fascist in charge of the attorney general's office. We probably wouldn't be forced to ride along on the neocon expressway to world domination either.
Gore might've actually done something effective about the economy, oooh if only i could slide like jerry o'connel into that dimension.
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Old 09-13-2003, 12:34 PM   #20 (permalink)
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Seretogis, the hypocracy here is bordering on insane. You critique me for complaining about Bush while supporting "corrupt career-politicians" but all you do is complain about the complaints made by others. First of all, why do you assume I voted for Gore or that I am an active supporter of the democrats standard issue politicians? I feel very secure in complaining more about the republicans as currently they are the ones that actively endangering many of America's rights and liberties as well as many American lives for causes I do not feel justify such a risk. That isn't to say its an issue of republican vs democrat, perhaps its an issue of who current has power vs who currently doesn't. All I do know is that I do actively support politicians and candidates that offer alternatives to the current woes created by the current adminstration and I'll tell you that most of the solutions are not coming from republicans at this time because they are to afraid to go toe to tow against G W.
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Old 09-13-2003, 01:52 PM   #21 (permalink)
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think we can all agree that if gore were in charge, we wouldn't have a fascist in charge of the attorney general's office.
You mean like Janet "bring-in-the-bulldozers" Reno?

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Originally posted by MuadDibSeretogis, the hypocracy here is bordering on insane. You critique me for complaining about Bush while supporting "corrupt career-politicians" but all you do is complain about the complaints made by others. First of all, why do you assume I voted for Gore or that I am an active supporter of the democrats standard issue politicians? I feel very secure in complaining more about the republicans as currently they are the ones that actively endangering many of America's rights and liberties as well as many American lives for causes I do not feel justify such a risk. That isn't to say its an issue of republican vs democrat, perhaps its an issue of who current has power vs who currently doesn't. All I do know is that I do actively support politicians and candidates that offer alternatives to the current woes created by the current adminstration and I'll tell you that most of the solutions are not coming from republicans at this time because they are to afraid to go toe to tow against G W.
If you read any of my other posts, you'll see that I endorse the Libertarian Party and Libertarian-minded groups. The only way to get power-hungry career politicians out of office is to vote them out -- and that will not happen when the majority of people on this board just bicker about "opposing" politicians doing the same thing that "their" politicians do. Republicans and Democrats both have the goal of simply staying elected. What real changes have either party made in the last 20 years to improve our lives? All that I've seen is regulation to strip Americans of their rights and put more money in their own pockets.

I didn't make a blind assumption of your political stance, I've read many of your posts, and I think that this line from you pretty much gives me the fuel that I needed for my initial post:

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Voting third parties isn't throwing away your vote, but it is going to hurt efforts to get Bush out of office.
Getting Bush out of office and replacing him with a near-clone from another nearly-identical political party shouldn't be a goal of anyone that's interested in cleaning up our political system.
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Old 09-13-2003, 02:36 PM   #22 (permalink)
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Thats merely a statement of fact not an endorsement of certain types of behavior. While I do think that any one of the democratic candidates would do better than Bush that doesn't mean I vote for standard issue politicians. I voted Nader in 2000 and I plan on voting Kucinich in the primaries. We'll have to see how the general election pans out, but I would consider voting for Dean but I don't know who the Greens will run (if anyone) or any independents. I won't likely vote Libertarian because I don't share their values on many issues. Theoretically, I am more of a European style Social Democrat, but for practical purpose in American politics I fall somewhere between the greens and the liberal democrats.

Heh, sorry for the tangent but thanks for asking ;-)
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