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What should Rep. Weiner have done?
Besides not sending pictures using Twitter? And I don't really get what was bad about those pictures or the photos Rep. Lee sent on Craigslist, unless they were actively trying to hit on girls... Now, I do think it was bad that it appears that he lied about the 'hackers', but what should he have done?
Were they trying to find girls to sleep with? Were they having some 'fun'? Is it because we think Congressmen should be prudish monogamous people? Is it because America equates any nudity or underwear pictures with sex, and that is a sin? (Go to a European beach, magazines, or look through the Sunday Ads and you will find similar pictures) 1. So, should he have said that "this is a private matter"? 2. Should he have said "Yeah, I sent them, so what"? 3. It's the Internet, who hasn't sent those types of photos to someone? Get with the times people. 4. No comment 5. Maybe the Clinton defense, "What am I supposed to say, Yes, and my wife leaves me, No, and I get convicted for perjury/impeached"? 6. Play out the hacker 'lie'. 7. Say it is a right-wing conspiracy to discredit him. 8. That there are powerful people who are blackmailing him to vote in a certain way, and when he didn't, they sent the photos. And unless he says that he sent them, they will do some other bad stuff to his family. It is another distraction story, I know, but it seems like it was handled so poorly. |
He should have come up with something along these lines:
"Yeah, I sent them, so what? It's the Internet, who hasn't sent those types of photos to someone? Get with the times people." |
Is this anything more than the media needing their monthly political sacrifice?
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I think this is a reflection on politicians in general. These people are pathological liars and only admit the truths when they are caught red handed, and even then it's only part of the truth.
Schwarzenegger, Wiener, Edwards, Clinton the list goes around the block. These people run our country and are expert liars. Why would they not lie about the policies the set? They treat the the people closest to them horribly, and we wonder why our country is going down the tubes? I would want him to step down if he was my rep. He's totally untrustworthy. I also like how he tried to blame Breitbart. Weiner is a real piece of shit to be honest. |
Ideally, admitted the truth, asked for forgiveness, and moved on. Realistically, come up with less absurd lies on the difficult path toward publicly admitting the truth.
This op-ed pretty much summarizes exactly how I feel (and why I feel this whole story is no big deal). Hendrik Hertzberg: Anthony Weiner Comes Clean : The New Yorker Quote:
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i agree with charlatan and smeth.
what bothers me in this is the role of that sleazebag breitbart. i would love to see him get hoisted by his own petard. |
At least they aren't going to sew a scarlet letter A to his lapel.
Are they? |
Just an "Oops, sorry about that." would have been sufficient.
Really not worth lying about something that lame and only drawing attention to it. Either that or change your name to something else from Weiner before you enter politics. |
"Yes, it was me. It's between my wife and I. It has no impact on my dedication to my constituency. Any other fuckin' questions?"
I learned at age 12 (looking up "Vagina" in Encarta 95 and then lying about it) that the only worthwhile path is complete acknowledgement of what you did and then accepting the consequences. Lying just wastes time.. it'll come out eventually. Also, I learned in that lesson about the value of "History" functions in browsers and software, and watch it carefully. :) |
The attempted coverup was worse than what started it. He should have known that the truth would come out and been honest from the start. At least he didn't break any laws.
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I wish I could slap him. He is a hero of mine... That said I'm tired of private lives coming out in the open if it isn't something that goes against his ideology.
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He should buy a t-shirt that reads "My name is not David Vitter."
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"I did nothing illegal."
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It all depends on if the photos were pushed on the women or if the women beforehand asked for them. One is mutual consent, the other any man here or elsewhere would be busted for sexual harassment.
Plus, did this man use tax funded congressional computers and phone lines for this? If so, especially in these uncertain times financially for the government where every dollar should be accounted for, then I believe he committed crimes against the state and should be held accountable with at the very least stripped of all Congressional perks, while paying the taxpayers back out of his own pocket. Hell, Massillon Ohio lost cops over something similar when the chief and a female officer went to Cincy to extradite a criminal and in front of the car cam and the criminal, while driving made out. http://youtu.be/4PJhulgVbhc A friend of mine always says his father and grandfather always said,"We don't care what you do, just don't get caught." His grandfather was of Italian/Sicilian descent and very well known in the country, esp. NYC. Truer words and advice never have been spoken. ---------- Post added at 04:16 PM ---------- Previous post was at 04:05 PM ---------- This is just the weekly "let's get something to lead the people away from focussing on the war and deficit/budget" BS. There was Trump, then the whole Isreal/Obama "debate"....... Libya, Egypt, and so on. If it's not obvious the government and press are trying like Hell to throw in diversions from what truly matters... Then we deserve who we get in office and what happens in the war. The poor men and women over there don't deserve the BS. But if 'Nam taught our government anything, it was to not bring the war into the living rooms on a nightly basis. |
In a couple of months no one but political junkies will even remember this. I bet most of his constituents didn't even know his name before this story broke.
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I read today one girl might be underage, if that turns out to be true... completely different game in my book. |
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He should come out and say "I'll resign when Vitter resigns"
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At least the girl was learning about government... :paranoid: |
First of all, I have to say I'm glad he resigned. The left may have lost our strongest orator and most outspoken mouthpiece for progressive causes, but I no longer have to maintain the cognitive dissonance between Weiner's admirable work to advance progressive causes in legislature and his unforgivable unconditional support of the Israeli apartheid state and the war crimes perpetrated by its leaders.
He should have asked people who understand how the Internet works to explain it to him in a way that his feeble, over-30 brain can understand. He should have said "that's none of your business" and left it at that when attacked. When asked directly he should have said the same. He did nothing worse, and in fact something far less severe, than what half of all married adults do. It was a personal matter and the only person he owes an apology to is his wife, and I hope he has been nothing less than honest with her. Everyone else, the pundits, the journalists, etc. are irrelevant and Senator Weiner had every right to lie to them because is was none of their goddamn business and they had no right to be asking the questions they asked. Quote:
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Most men are sexually attracted to women. We want to look at them. We want to smell them. We want to be close to them. We want to touch them. We want to them to want us. We want to have sex with them. And some even want to be spanked by them. So what! Weiner did nothing illegal, his problem is that he lied. Real men are not ashamed of their sexual desires for women. And real men are honest about it with their partners. If you can't be honest with your partner, you have the wrong partner. |
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