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filtherton · 01-22-2011, 05:25 PM

Motherfuckers are totally anti-semitic against Sarah Palin.

Strange Famous · 01-22-2011, 06:05 PM

My own view - on the original point.

I think that Palin's speech writers new that it would cause, if not real hurt, at least consternation and offence. I think that they see it as playing well to their "core market" to draw criticism from the kind of people that would have been offended.

Even if you like her, it is hard to deny she is a polarising force in politics. I really dont understand personally how she has a following. Bush jr, for all his flaws, had a basic affability about him.

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On the point of "toxic terms" though, surely there are some. The word "nigger" for example... all sorts of questionable and racist views exist on the fringes of the mainstream, but the word itself is utterly toxic.

I think there was another thread when this was being discussed.

Terms like "Paki", "Bengy", "Yid" etc are broadly no different to "nigger" in terms of being derogatory in most senses - but none of them carry the same stigma, either in the UK or US.

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As I believe a commentator brought up recently, all of these people who call Obama "A Kenyan" - it is pretty obvious what they mean. If they called him "nigger" they would be politically finished, if they call him "Kenyan" they are not - but they are saying exactly the same thing when they say it.

matthew330 · 01-22-2011, 08:09 PM

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As far as the topic at hand, I don't think any of you knew what "blood libel" was before this. She was the one defending herself from your ridiculous accusations, it's amazing you have to be reminded of that. This is just a smoke screen. You're not offended, you know what she meant, and you know why she said it. You found two words in her defense of herself, which was well deserved, that you can fit into your political motivations and accuse someone of something their not. She was wronged, not you, not liberals. Get over it.

filtherton · 01-22-2011, 08:12 PM

Yep. Sarah Palin is the real victim in all of this. And her defenders are definitely doing so with a complete lack of political motivation.

matthew330 · 01-22-2011, 08:25 PM

really strange stuff. that you can blame somebody for death of 9 people because they used a crosshair on a map as a political metaphor, which has been done as long as politics has been around and to call that retard accusation out for what it is, I have some political motivation?

I really don't believe you can't see how ridiculous you are. I think you're smarter than that. For the life of me why your sticking by what started this tooth and nail....seriously, don't you feel simple....desperate, like your ideology really has gotten the best of you? You should.

filtherton · 01-22-2011, 08:40 PM

Maybe the reason you're so confused is that you've just assumed that I'm blaming Palin for the shooting in Tucson when I'm not.

matthew330 · 01-22-2011, 08:42 PM

....waiting for you to defend her.....that will help my confusion.

filtherton · 01-22-2011, 08:54 PM

I think that avoiding making lazy assumptions would aid the clearing up of your confusion more than anything I could do.

Strange Famous · 01-23-2011, 01:28 AM

I can assure you that I knew what "Blood libel" meant before Sarah Palin said it, and I would imagine many other people did too.

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As far as the topic at hand, I don't think any of you knew what "blood libel" was before this. She was the one defending herself from your ridiculous accusations, it's amazing you have to be reminded of that. This is just a smoke screen. You're not offended, you know what she meant, and you know why she said it. You found two words in her defense of herself, which was well deserved, that you can fit into your political motivations and accuse someone of something their not. She was wronged, not you, not liberals. Get over it.

Tully Mars · 01-23-2011, 08:21 AM

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01-22-2011, 06:05 PM	#122 (permalink)
Strange Famous follower of the child's crusade?	My own view - on the original point. I think that Palin's speech writers new that it would cause, if not real hurt, at least consternation and offence. I think that they see it as playing well to their "core market" to draw criticism from the kind of people that would have been offended. Even if you like her, it is hard to deny she is a polarising force in politics. I really dont understand personally how she has a following. Bush jr, for all his flaws, had a basic affability about him. _ On the point of "toxic terms" though, surely there are some. The word "nigger" for example... all sorts of questionable and racist views exist on the fringes of the mainstream, but the word itself is utterly toxic. I think there was another thread when this was being discussed. Terms like "Paki", "Bengy", "Yid" etc are broadly no different to "nigger" in terms of being derogatory in most senses - but none of them carry the same stigma, either in the UK or US. _ As I believe a commentator brought up recently, all of these people who call Obama "A Kenyan" - it is pretty obvious what they mean. If they called him "nigger" they would be politically finished, if they call him "Kenyan" they are not - but they are saying exactly the same thing when they say it. __________________ "Do not tell lies, and do not do what you hate, for all things are plain in the sight of Heaven. For nothing hidden will not become manifest, and nothing covered will remain without being uncovered." The Gospel of Thomas

01-22-2011, 05:25 PM	#121 (permalink)
filtherton Junkie Location: In the land of ice and snow.	Motherfuckers are totally anti-semitic against Sarah Palin.

01-22-2011, 08:12 PM	#124 (permalink)
filtherton Junkie Location: In the land of ice and snow.	Yep. Sarah Palin is the real victim in all of this. And her defenders are definitely doing so with a complete lack of political motivation.

01-22-2011, 08:25 PM	#125 (permalink)
matthew330 Banned	really strange stuff. that you can blame somebody for death of 9 people because they used a crosshair on a map as a political metaphor, which has been done as long as politics has been around and to call that retard accusation out for what it is, I have some political motivation? I really don't believe you can't see how ridiculous you are. I think you're smarter than that. For the life of me why your sticking by what started this tooth and nail....seriously, don't you feel simple....desperate, like your ideology really has gotten the best of you? You should.

01-22-2011, 08:40 PM	#126 (permalink)
filtherton Junkie Location: In the land of ice and snow.	Maybe the reason you're so confused is that you've just assumed that I'm blaming Palin for the shooting in Tucson when I'm not.

01-22-2011, 08:42 PM	#127 (permalink)
matthew330 Banned	....waiting for you to defend her.....that will help my confusion.

01-22-2011, 08:54 PM	#128 (permalink)
filtherton Junkie Location: In the land of ice and snow.	I think that avoiding making lazy assumptions would aid the clearing up of your confusion more than anything I could do.