US Rep. Giffords (D-AZ) shot at public event - Page 8 - Tilted Forum Project Discussion Community

pan6467 · 01-15-2011, 02:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Tully Mars

Wait, then how can Obama be a Commie Fascists? There's something wrong with your image.

you can go so far right>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that in the end you are left and vicey versy.

In other words it may not always be a straight line but circular to where on some levels you are far left and some you are far right. That was something we learned in 10th grade World History. Hitler and Stalin were not that much politically different but the line would say they were polar opposites, which is not accurate either.

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Originally Posted by Tully Mars

Well I'll be honest with you I had no idea that's what the term meant. I'm guessing Palin had (probably does now, likely getting calls by now) no idea either. I usually assume Palin has no idea what she's talking about when she's speaking. I mean have you ever heard her speak about foreign policy?

She and her mouth are the reason the GOP will not win in 2012 and she will with Beck destroy any chances the Tea Party may have to become legitimate (I know some here believe it will never be, but IMHO Beck and Palin seem to be working hard to make sure it isn't taken seriously and truly doesn't do anything, except appear as some ridiculous parody of what it is truly about

Tully Mars · 01-15-2011, 05:54 AM

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Originally Posted by pan6467

She and her mouth are the reason the GOP will not win in 2012 and she will with Beck destroy any chances the Tea Party may have to become legitimate (I know some here believe it will never be, but IMHO Beck and Palin seem to be working hard to make sure it isn't taken seriously and truly doesn't do anything, except appear as some ridiculous parody of what it is truly about

I'm not sure. I see a chance for a Romney, Huckabee or a Pawlenty to step out and tell the nation "these folks are nuts, vote for me." Honestly I'm not sure who I'll vote for yet and I'd bet most voters are not either.

As for the Tea Party it may have started out as a "grass roots" movement but even if it did it's not that now, it's been hijacked by big money and influence.

TheCrimsonGhost · 01-15-2011, 06:25 AM

This turned into a political discussion? I think it would be appropriate to keep the topic on the folks that were hurt and murdered by this man in Tuscon, not who is going to capitalize on it politically.

roachboy · 01-15-2011, 07:34 AM

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Arizona Shooting Victim Criticizes Palin, Beck and Fox News

January 14, 2011 5:47 pm ET by Joe Strupp

One of the victims of the Arizona shooting today criticized the violent rhetoric employed by Sarah Palin, Glenn Beck, and Fox News.

Eric Fuller, a 63-year-old Navy veteran who was shot in the knee and received fragments in the back last Saturday, said the rhetoric of Sarah Palin and others can impact "demented" people like suspect Jared Loughner.

Fuller, who said he has been interviewed by several national news outlets, added he would not appear on Fox News if they sought him, predicting it "might develop into a screaming session." He added: "I don't like what they're selling."

In a phone interview from his Tucson home Friday, Fuller spoke about the shooting, saying he had appeared at the event as a supporter of Giffords and had worked for her campaign last year.

Fuller went on to harshly criticize Palin:

"Sarah Palin doesn't bother to learn the spelling of repudiate and tosses out 'blood libel' like it was a jar of peanut butter, but does she know anything? Probably about as much as (former Giffords opponent) Jesse Kelly."

Asked if he thought Palin or other media commentators had an impact on the shooting, he said:

"Definitely. Let's say through some fluke Jared Loughner never ever heard of Sarah Palin or [Glenn] Beck or Rush Limbaugh or Sean Hannity and the rest of the crime syndicate, and dreamed it all up on his own, that he'd go over there and wack her.

"There are still plenty of demented people that are in need of a good spanking who are out there and plenty of access with the gun shops to assault weapons thanks to the son of privilege letting that expire. There is the matter of the media attention to it. It is going to make this even more desirable yet.

"If you are going to scream hatred and preach hatred, you're going to sow it after a while if you've got a soap box like they've got. We've got a surplus of demented dingbats, wackos."

Fuller went on to criticize national media outlets that allow violent rhetoric on the air: "I would put Sarah Palin in first place there. I think, really, she should be incarcerated for treason for advocating assassinating public officials. That map I saw that she published on the Internet had crosshairs on it and one of them was meant for Gabrielle Giffords.

"This woman is a spotless, purest, sweetest lamb in the world, gunned down ... The only word I could think of is outraged."

Fuller, who said he suffers from post-traumatic stress disorder, is a disabled U.S. Navy veteran.

He said he drove himself to the hospital after the shooting and has been visited by numerous reporters and news outlets at his home:

"I've gone through at least a dozen video sessions. I've got ABC, CBS and NBC and The New York Times and the New York Post." He also spoke with Democracy Now.

Asked if he had been approached by Fox News, he said, "No, I haven't, come to think of it."

Fuller said he would likely decline to appear on Fox:

"I am afraid that might develop into a screaming session because I think they promote the war, I think I ought to pass on that, talking to Fox, I don't like what they're selling.

"I would stand up and just scream 'whores' at them, with my leg bleeding, and shock and with the congress lady laying on the pavement after having a slug pass through her head.

"I know they're just going to attack, they would probably attack me. They'll distort. Particularly Miss Blood Libel herself. The spoiled princess party. I am willing to take them on. I want to call them out and see if they have a peep to say."

Arizona Shooting Victim Criticizes Palin, Beck and Fox News | Media Matters for America

The_Jazz · 01-15-2011, 07:39 AM

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Originally Posted by TheCrimsonGhost

This turned into a political discussion? I think it would be appropriate to keep the topic on the folks that were hurt and murdered by this man in Tuscon, not who is going to capitalize on it politically.

This is in Tilted Politics. The discussion is entirely is entirely appropriate here, and that's what this part of TFP is set up to do. If you want to discuss the people that were hurt, then take it to General Discussion.

Speaking of appropriate, you need to read and respond to your private messages since you still clearly don't understand the rules of TFP. Last chance.

pan6467 · 01-20-2011, 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Tully Mars

I'm not sure. I see a chance for a Romney, Huckabee or a Pawlenty to step out and tell the nation "these folks are nuts, vote for me." Honestly I'm not sure who I'll vote for yet and I'd bet most voters are not either.

I hope so, Beck and Palin scare me...lol then again I scare easily.

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As for the Tea Party it may have started out as a "grass roots" movement but even if it did it's not that now, it's been hijacked by big money and influence.

This I agree with, Levin, Beck, Palin, Fox News, etc. all seemed to see money could be made off the fringe tea partiers, who joined because they just wanted to be heard. The ironic thing is that, by their own guulibility they have been easily led by the aforementioned, and have had their views twisted.

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TheCrimsonGhost Upright Location: Los Angeles, CA	This turned into a political discussion? I think it would be appropriate to keep the topic on the folks that were hurt and murdered by this man in Tuscon, not who is going to capitalize on it politically.