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Old 06-25-2009, 09:38 AM   #41 (permalink)
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I also am relieved. Teens should have a reasonable expectation of privacy, especially in regards to their person. I hope this ruling keeps other adolescent and teen girls from going through what Savana Redding went through.
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Old 06-25-2009, 10:14 AM   #42 (permalink)
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Oh clarence, clarence, clarence....
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Old 06-25-2009, 11:19 AM   #43 (permalink)
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Am I the only one who thought about Long Dong Silver for the first time in years after reading about this? And wondering what Anita Hill thinks about it?
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Old 06-25-2009, 11:31 AM   #44 (permalink)
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Man, Clarence Thomas must be one of the worst SCJ ever.
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Old 06-25-2009, 11:46 AM   #45 (permalink)
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Thomas has been the lone, or one of few dissenters in cases where I actually agreed with him too. Dunno what's going on here.
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Old 06-25-2009, 01:46 PM   #46 (permalink)
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well the decision not what I thought it would be. I didn't think it would be 8-1, but more dissenters than just Clarence Thomas. Does this mean that any child could stick the contraband within their undergarments and thus end the search until the police arrive?
Why is that a bad thing? We don't need to give that kind of authority to hacks that couldn't make it in the real world.
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Old 06-25-2009, 01:52 PM   #47 (permalink)
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Why is that a bad thing? We don't need to give that kind of authority to hacks that couldn't make it in the real world.
Never said it was a bad thing, many schools in the US have police officers just off campus not too far away. I'm trying to understand Justice Thomas' position because he felt that that was a sanctuary being made known to everyone.
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Old 06-25-2009, 01:52 PM   #48 (permalink)
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Does this mean that any child could stick the contraband within their undergarments and thus end the search until the police arrive?
I hope so.
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Old 06-25-2009, 02:14 PM   #49 (permalink)
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First I've read of this, but I'm glad it came to the conclusion that it did. Yes, now kids will all hide the contraband in their underwear. And yes, that means police will be called more often. I think these are both wise choices. Perhaps up the penalty on the kids placing the contraband in such a place as to require the police to come?
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Old 06-25-2009, 02:28 PM   #50 (permalink)
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Never said it was a bad thing, many schools in the US have police officers just off campus not too far away. I'm trying to understand Justice Thomas' position because he felt that that was a sanctuary being made known to everyone.
Thomas was just using a canned wharrgarbl argument.
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Old 06-25-2009, 09:22 PM   #51 (permalink)
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The court also ruled the officials cannot be held liable in a lawsuit for the search.
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This is cause for concern. What's to stop this happening again if there are no penalties to those who would conduct such a search?
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Old 06-26-2009, 06:02 AM   #52 (permalink)
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This is cause for concern. What's to stop this happening again if there are no penalties to those who would conduct such a search?
I took it to mean that the girl in this case could not seek damages from the school officials in civil court. Going forward this would seem to be a criminal offense now that the SC has ruled against it happening which would mean that administrators could be brought up on criminal charges. Assuming I have that right, that is.
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Old 06-26-2009, 07:26 AM   #53 (permalink)
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Also if news comes out that an administrator did this you can pretty much guarantee they will lose their job and not be able to find another in that city.
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Old 06-26-2009, 08:14 AM   #54 (permalink)
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I took it to mean that the girl in this case could not seek damages from the school officials in civil court. Going forward this would seem to be a criminal offense now that the SC has ruled against it happening which would mean that administrators could be brought up on criminal charges. Assuming I have that right, that is.
The court also did not exempt the school district itself from civil liability. Only the individual employees, so the girl's family can still sue the district. IMO that doesn't go far enough. Anyone ordering or performing the stripping and ogling of a young girl over a freaking OTC pill should be liable for damages resulting from criminal and sexual misconduct. In no case should a school district be conducting strip searches. If you feel it absolutely necessary, call the cops.

as an aside, I find it not terribly surprising that Clarence "Coke Can" Thomas is totally fine with making little girls strip for grownups.
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