Fotzlid

Looks like the Democrats got control in both the House and Senate. That is never a good thing.
Heres to hoping for real political change
*clink*

filtherton

McCain's speech was definitely classy. Too bad his supporters were yelling shit the whole time.

Milnoc

Twistedmosaic, did you draw that? It's hilarious!

The United States has a new president, and the world has a new hope.

mrklixx

Now, if he can just keep it in his pants....

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SSJTWIZTA

as do i.

for once during an election im ecstatic.

the sad thing is, im already hearing people talking about weather he will get shot or not.


fucking georgia.

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Ger.Man

I'm happy Obama won but I didn't like his speech at all.
His use of pathos makes it really hard for me to take him seriously. I don't like it when a politician appeals to people's emotions instead of their logic and I don't think it's a good foundation for a presidency.

Also I believe he's overrated as a speaker as he seems lost without a teleprompter. I wasn't fully convinced of his performances at the debates. If you look at his speech today you can see that his view always moves from one teleprompter to another, he never looks straight forward. I realize that it's not easy to speak freely under such circumstances but McCain did much better in my opinion.

Mojo_PeiPei

Mccains Speech was tight, just wish he would've dropped the Lincoln quote from AMerican History X, thought it would've gelled better than Obama's usage.

Cheers to Obama, didn't vote for him, respect the man, respect the office, interested to see where the next two years will take us. Hoping against hope the Dems don't get 60 in the senate.

Was amazed at how Rove talked on Fox.

Anybody else think Jesse Jackson was trying to garner too much attention with his crocodile tears on the tube???

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Charlatan

Is it just me or does this feel like a populist win? There are celebrations in the streets. There seems to be a lot of ownership in this win.

I don't recall seeing this sort of reaction before (for either Dem or Rep wins).

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Daniel_

But isn't this what they always do?

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boink

this is the first time I felt like I was voting for someone instead of 'lesser of 2 evils' and as a speaker felt like I was listening to an honest, smart adult rather than a sleeze

who knows what'll happen. with the market jump tomorrow ? will banks ease up and lend ?

yep, party in the streets of seattle. never saw that either

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RetroGunslinger

I'm still moving to Canada.

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jewels

I couldn't be happier.

For those who don't get the crocodile tears and the emotion, think back to JFK or ask your parents.

When a majority of Americans and every other country on our globe see a man who can take this country back to a place it hasn't seen in years (a little pride, maybe?) it evokes a lot of emotion.

I'm sure we'll read many articles and view many pieces on this, but Jesse Jackson and millions of others were in tears last night. It's difficult to believe this has really happened and blacks and those who backed him with passion realized the burden that's on his shoulders already.

We should all be crying tears of joy and tears of fear. He's a brave man to tackle such an impossible agenda.

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little_tippler

I believe that given the choices, surprisingly, the better choice was made. So congratulations to Americans for that.

I will reserve my judgment for when Obama actually starts calling the shots and effecting changes. But I think he's alright.

Well done. It is clearly an historic moment for the US, to have its first African-American President. Whether that is or should be relevant or not is another story.

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highthief

No idea about how effective Obama will be, but it's hard not to think he won't be an order of magnitude better than the train wreck that has been the USA for the last 8 years under the worst president you lot ever had.

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ShaniFaye

Im wondering if there is anyone in Scotland that wants to adopt me

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I see the results of this election giving people hope. I sincerely wish that the people will take this hope and turn that inspiration into real action on a community level and not expect this man or the office to provide a solution to the problem we are facing today and in the future.

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Lasereth

It looks like NC is most likely being Demo. All I can say is WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

roachboy

it is the morning after the election.

what seems clear is that the defeat is bigger than the victory.
i watched faux news for a while last night after the results were clear. it was like visting a funeral parlor. they were holding a wake for their business model. this is reason to be cheerful.

i have no problem with folk who are conservative, but i have had a Big problem with the kind of conservatism that was front and center during the last 8 years. that conservatism has encountered its waterloo. and it was entirely of it's own making.
it'll be interesting to watch what happens with the republicans over the next year: they are in a difficult position. i hope they remake themselves, remake their language in particular.

i feel as if there is reason to think that things may be less barbaric. there is reason to think that the united states will not find itself a banana republic in 2 years. there is reason to think that perhaps a more humane form of capitalism might be created, a more rational global order. there is reason to think that maybe the benefits of these will reach more people, and produce a system that is more just, if only because there will be space in national politics to talk about things like social justice.

i do not think obama is a solution. i just think he is more open, more curious about the world, less ideologically blinkered. in a rapidly changing situation, we do not need another ideologue.

there are a host of problems that he will run straight into. the principal thing that will carry this new administration into these problems will be a kind of bump, a brief grace period in the context of which problems that otherwise would be intractable will hover in the air. i think there will be a period during which much of the world will say "hello. we've been waiting for sanity to come back to the states."

what matters is what happens after that.
but for the moment, i think this was a big big deal, this is a big deal.

i feel like the car i am in, which i am not driving, is backing away from the edge of something Very Bad.
that is my main emotion.
relief for its own sake.
a feeling that, despite everything, we didn't hit the wall.

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Catdaddy33

What a night... I'm glad it's over and glad of the outcome, now I just hope that he can DO what he promised.

I really felt for McCain last night, hell the guy had my vote in 2000 before he got "Rick-Roved" in the primaries. I'm not sure who if anyone is to blame, but the major flaw in the McCain campaign was not letting McCain be McCain. He did set the stage for Palin as the new star of the GOP...should be interesting...

streak_56

I think the whole world breathed a sigh of relief. Obama to me was a clear cut winner, and hopefully, he'll lead the US back to prominence in the world.

connyosis

Awesome. Wife cried a little when Obama won (Oh you Americans and your emotions). Feels like the US has a chance of being respected in the world again. Congrats guys and gals.

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ratbastid

I live on a busy street in a county that went for Obama like 65%. We had people driving down our street all night honking their horns in celebration. It was AWESOME. We all giggled stupidly every time we heard it.

Poppinjay

Mark Warner was the first election called by CBS. Congratulations on your new shade of color, Virginia!

McCain's concession was tremendous. It makes me wonder what would have happened if McCain was allowed to run as McCain. I have a feeling the SNL spot and the speech were moments when he said, "ef you guys, I'm going to say what I want to say." Cal Thomas is chief idiot of America. In a world with Billy Cyrus, that's saying a lot.

The GOP is going to have to get their shit together from here on out. Stop the bowing to the religious right and embrace the crunchy cons.

Popular, but not populist. Maybe populists for blacks. They represented 22% of the vote, while consisting of 12% of the population. Michael Baisden can claim a huge part of this election.

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highthief

I prefer Dick Tuck's concession years ago in California:

"The people have spoken ... the bastards!"

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Paq

yea, we had fireworks here...

and you know, i was really kinda flat about the election till i heard obama speak and saw the different quality...Seriously, i don't know if i have ever been this happy voting....

amazing.

as for the market, they already priced in the obama transition, honestly, and will likely sell off a bit till the end of the year/he takes oath.

the market is funny that way. The dollar, however, jumped when obama was announced (against hte euro)

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PonyPotato

I'm extremely pleased with how the vote went.

I look forward to the next four years.

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Paq

I was amazed by mccain's speech and it really was like looking back at the 2000 mccain, which makes me think his whole campaign was a sham and i'm wondering who really had control there. It was amazing, gracious, and very classy, far above anything this campaign has seen in a long time.

as for the GOP...i think this is great for them. so far, the popular vote is 7 million in favor of obama, that's craziness and the largest % diff since LBJ. The GOP needs to stop wtih the FAR right stuff, the ones palin seems to bring out and focus on the more central ones.

that said, i really hope the dems don't go far left on us.. I think this campaign has pointed out a lot of similarities between how mccain 'really' felt about issues and how obama has voted, so i think he's a good bit less leftist than the right is fearing. He also seems to, at least from the speech, want to unite the country....

and not one mention of "God told me i would win"

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JBX

Congratulations to Obama. I'm not a fan of his policies, but maybe with this election we can finally put to rest affirmative action, race baiting Jessie Jacksons and Al Sharptons. As always, I always wish the President good fortune, because we are all in it together now.

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This morning on Fox news (I was listening to it in the car on the way to work) they were talking about how Palin had so much support in the crowd during his speech and would be a rallying point of the party.

During McCains speech when he discussed Palin I thought I heard a bunch of boo's in the audience - am I wrong?

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telekinetic

I didn't notice any. Just boo's every time Obama was brought up.

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Poppinjay

Sharpton is fun for the right wing to bring up, but any thinking American knows he's a sideshow.

As far as Jesse Jackson goes, let's have us all stand next to our best friend and mentor as he's shot dead because of the color of his skin. Then we can all get together and discuss diversity. The fact that Jackson is not a bitter old man shows a strength of character.

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Amaras

Try Montreal. If you go to Toronto, it will feel just like home (U.S.) only
cleaner and with (slightly) less guns.



You took the words right outta my.... post from last night. What, all Canadians
use the same words to describe Bush for the past 8 years......


As usual, I really, really agree.

Needless to say, he was never heard from again. That is the price of honesty.

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shakran

Correct. I've said many times, here and elsewhere, that it's a shame that the republican party was hijacked by the neoconservatives. If you look pre-Reagan/Nixon, the republicans weren't like that. It'd be nice to see them go back to what they used to be instead of being led by greedy moneygrubbing warmongering bastards. Conservatism isn't bad, but sham conservatism is. They fooled people into thinking they were conservatives by spending like crazy, but lowering taxes so people didn't feel the pinch. That era of sham-conservatism is, hopefully, over.

The one thing that worries me is that we are going to have to pay for the 2 decades of crap, and I think the president who starts those payments is going to be rather unpopular. I also think Obama is going to start those payments because he's gonna be responsible about it.


Agreed. I think if McCain had conducted his campaign in the spirit of that speech, he'd have won. Food for thought.

kramus

I saw a different speach. Two different speaches, really - McCain fumbled and stumbled a bit, which was a tired man at the end of a long run speaking with elegance - but having a bit of trouble because he was reading from his notes.
Obama also carried notes to his podium. He did not seem to need them. The scanning of the crowd was not a man looking at a teleprompter but a master orator speaking to a great crowd of people. His not looking rigidly forward was because he was communicating an amazing thing to everyone in a beautiful manner - not being a talking head looking at the camera with the red light shining above it. He spoke in a way that gave me true hope for you Yanks, and ever since W and his brother stole the show in Florida in 2000 I have not had that feeling.
Congratulations on pulling away from the brink, America. Now help that man do what needs to be done.

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I give Obama the credit he is due. I think similar to when Reagan was elected there will be a positive change in the way we view our country and that is needed in these difficult times. There is no doubt that more people got involved in our democracy as a result of Obama than ever before, I think all Americans will believe our nation is for all of us in spite of our differences.

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Glory's Sun

Granted, I'm going to reserve some praise for the man until I see what exactly goes down in office, but today.. I feel different. I feel less embarrassed to be an American. I feel like a corner has been passed. I feel like for once in this country we can honestly say that we are equal. Policies aside, this has been an amazing race on both ends of the spectrum. I feel like Obama could honestly be a catalyst for change.. not the solution, but the catalyst. I feel like America finally did something right.. they finally pulled their heads out of their asses and had a say in what they wanted. I feel like the world was watching and in some areas a sigh of relief was heard, while in other areas, a sense of fear was struck. Struck not because of the man who was elected, but because Americans looked and acted like they were one country. The world knows that when our people are united, we are unstoppable.

I feel as though a weight has been lifted off the shoulders of people who have passed and those who will come into the world. I feel like anything is again possible. I feel.. proud.

ShaniFaye

I know this is a mute point, but out of curiosity I'd like to see how the Libertarian candidate did... I cant find those stats, can someone point me in the right direction?

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Full Election Results - Election Center 2008 - Elections & Politics from CNN.com

484,000 votes for Barr nationally

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Shani,


2008 General Election Results for Bob Barr & Wayne Allen Root | Libertarian Party


not too hot.

ShaniFaye

thanks, I was afraid that was the page, for some reason all I get is a crappy text only page when I go there and it doesnt show what I was looking for...I appreciate the information

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