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Old 10-15-2008, 12:51 PM   #41 (permalink)
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This is great. You're such a maverick, with the being critical of Obama and all. Really, you're such a visionary, and if only all the Obama supporters could see that the man isn't jesus. It must be difficult, having such valid, cogent, and hard-hitting criticisms fall on hopelessly partisan ears.
I am not a maverick, and at one point I was uncertain about Obama. During the past 6 months I have probed, asked questions, presented information and found that the pattern in the responses were clear. Anything that appeared to be an attack against Obama was summarily dismissed and often followed with an ad hominem argument or the old standby of the Republicans did it too. Now I often apologize up front, give warnings and try to save people the effort of repeating what I have heard before.

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The flip side of your dramatics is that you seem completely incapable of any sort of objectivity when it comes to talking about Obama.
I have stated what I don't like about his policy, his character, and leadership style. I have also given my reasons. I am sure he is a nice guy and I would not mind taking him on one-on-one on the basketball court. Over the past few months my view of him evolved into what it is today. Also, understand that I don't like McCain either. Until Palin I was inclined to vote for Bob Barr.


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Anything that could possibly be viewed as a blemish on Obama's record is, and anyone who fails to completely acknowledge the validity of said blemish is just hopelessly caught up in the cult of Obama.
I was rejecting that premise for a long time. However, I do feel some think that and I am surprise when I find Obama supporters who don't. Recently I have not read any thing from an Obama supporter that questions anything about him.

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Interestingly enough, everything that is wrong with Obama is right about Palin.
No. There is one big difference and I have stated it several times. Obama, based on what I know, has never taken an un-populist stand on any issue, has not stood up to his party on any issue and in my view has not lead on any issue. Like her or not, Palin has. Even on the trooper-gate issue - to me Palin shows she is human, she shows she has "balls". Obama "runs" from his pastor, he "runs" from his church, he "runs" from Ayers, he "runs" from ACORN, he "runs" from anything that may be controversial, when picking a VP, he picks an insider who said Obama was not qualified to pacify whatever group he was pacifying with the Biden pick.
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ACORN has not committed any voter registration fraud.
Again, I ask for a reality check given your knowledge and experience. Again, organizations don't break laws, people do. Generally, ACORN people are honest and are doing what they can within the law. However, the problem people have with ACORN and organizations like it, is not that they violate the law but that they tap dance around the margins of doing what is right. Some of their methods make people feel uncomfortable, and I think you know it. Obama needs to keep swing voters feeling comfortable, McCain wants the opposite. Do you really think this is about legal or illegal activity?
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Old 10-15-2008, 01:18 PM   #42 (permalink)
 
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well gee, ace, if the republicans were to be honest, then why wouldn't they just say "WE WANT YOU TO BE AFRAID OF OBAMA" rather than concealing that behind fake accusations about groups like acorn?

o wait--i know--anything goes when it comes from the right side, yes?
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Old 10-15-2008, 01:20 PM   #43 (permalink)
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George Bush. He ran on an agenda to cut taxes and to be aggressive on national defense, he ran for re-election on "staying the course" in Iraq.
You must be joking. Or maybe you have a short memory. Or maybe you just haven't been paying attention.

The Broken Promises of George W. Bush
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Old 10-15-2008, 01:24 PM   #44 (permalink)
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well gee, ace, if the republicans were to be honest, then why wouldn't they just say "WE WANT YOU TO BE AFRAID OF OBAMA" rather than concealing that behind fake accusations about groups like acorn?

o wait--i know--anything goes when it comes from the right side, yes?
I am afraid of Obama.
I am afraid of Pelosi.
I am afraid of Democrats having total control of Congress.
I am afraid of socialist agendas.
And, I don't like some of the techniques used by groups like ACORN.

Is this news to you?
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Old 10-15-2008, 01:29 PM   #45 (permalink)
 
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well, ace, here's a little pop treat for you.
old and obscure.

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Old 10-15-2008, 01:32 PM   #46 (permalink)
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You must be joking. Or maybe you have a short memory. Or maybe you just haven't been paying attention.

The Broken Promises of George W. Bush
After the tax cuts and defense promises, I stopped listening. It would be like if Halle Barry walked into my private room...after saying "hello" and "Ace"...no more words need be said, because I am not going to hear them.
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Old 10-15-2008, 01:59 PM   #47 (permalink)
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The biggest promise bush broke was that he would be a uniter not a divider.
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Old 10-15-2008, 03:15 PM   #48 (permalink)
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After the tax cuts and defense promises, I stopped listening. It would be like if Halle Barry walked into my private room...after saying "hello" and "Ace"...no more words need be said, because I am not going to hear them.
Spoken like a true McCain Flack. Bravo. If you don't like information, just ignore it! It's certainly worked for the past 8 years. We'll call it: the deregulation of the truth.
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