mrklixx

I didn't vote in the last election (I know, bad American! shame on me!), basically because of the South Park-esque giant douche/turd sandwich dilemma. But this time around, one set of candidates angers me so much that I am considering voting just to keep them out of office. I know this is not the best policy, but I am willing to give the other candidate(s) the benefit of the doubt, because of how much I despise their opponents.

This was touched on to some extent in the other thread, but this is a bit different. This is not about which side you are voting for (and honestly, I would rather not know). Also, I like the visual representation, and since it is election time, everybody needs a good poll.

So, are you voting "for" or "against"?

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dlish

interesting concept. in australia ive never voted to keep someone out of office really.

is it only the fact that you dislike someone that you are willing to vote for their opponents?

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Jozrael

It's a mixture. I'd be voting just for my ticket, but the fact that I am terrified by the other one is just added incentive.

mrklixx

It's not just a personal dislike, although I'm not going to lie and say that doesn't play at least a small roll. And I know all politicians are fast and loose with facts and the truth. However just about everything I have heard from one set of candidates has made me straight up angry.

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Patient Kain

I honestly don't know much about any of them.

I'd be voting for the party I've known for my whole life, butttt I'm not too sure I agree with what some of them believe, as has been the case recently, in the past. So I think I might be voting for the other major, to keep mine out. Orrrr, once I know more about each, I just might vote for mine, buttt it would likely be to only keep the other party out.

This year candidates are awful.

Charlatan

Now with a poll

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mrklixx

Thanx Charlatan

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Willravel

If McCain ran down there you might consider it.

dlish

maybe..but say for example you had someone from the democrats who made McCain look appealing, would you still be voting for the other guy because you hated McCain? or would you just not cast your ballot?

its all relative really. depends who's running

lets not forget that mrkilxx hasnt said who he's not voting for

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abaya

I am definitely voting FOR Obama... I made that decision several months ago, and have been quite active (as much as I can, from Iceland) in doing what I can to get more votes for him, donating, etc. However, long before the democratic nominee was chosen, I most definitely would NOT have ever voted for the republican nominee... so my first principle was to vote against the repub nominee, but now I am a very positive supporter of the democratic nominee (which I have never been, in the previous 2 elections in which I have voted), so that has become my primary motivation.

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Derwood

voting for Obama, not against McCain

World's King

McCain looking appealing?





He could have a great rack and suck dick like a porn star and he still wouldn't be appealing.

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snowy

Voting FOR Obama.

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SSJTWIZTA

im not voting.

i know i should, im just not going to.

if i were registered i would cast my vote for Obama.

a bit off topic:
earlier today i stumbled across an Obama channel on television. interesting.

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Willravel

That'd have to be a pretty messed up Democrat. If there were a centrist Democrat running that wqas anti-gay rights and anti-middle class, I'd probably end up voting Socialist this time around. I won't vote for McCain, and I won't vote for McKinney, the Green candidate for 2008.
I can't personally imagine not voting. It's not that I think it's horribly wrong or anything, but I always vote because I am egotistical enough to think that my opinion should matter on a national scale. That's democracy, after all.

If McCain were voting against a run of the mill centrist in Australia, you wouldn't vote against McCain?

ratbastid

I'm voting FOR Obama. I'm very excited that NC's electoral votes might go democrat for the first time since Carter.

See, if you weren't in GA, this would be tragic. GA is not in play by even the most blue-optimistic analyst. If you were up here in NC, I'd be driving your ass to the polling place to register you TODAY.

Paq

for the first time in a while, i'm voting FOR someone. I just wish this were 2000 mccain and not 2008 mccain or i would be ok with seeing either candidate winning. New mccain makes me sad.

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SSJTWIZTA

sir, i would have payed you gas money and bought you a 6 pack.

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snowy

I consider it my civic duty to cast my ballot. Even if the Democrat was an overly centrist turd sandwich, I would still vote. I'd likely vote for Nader in that case (yes, Nader).

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Frosstbyte

I'm voting against McCain/Palin. If I could somehow vote against both and have that make an impact, I would. But I can't, so I'll try to keep the sheer terrifying evil of Palin away from the executive branch.

Poppinjay

Obama has a 9 point lead in Virginia, which hasn't voted for a D president since LBJ.

I'm more hopeful NC will put Bev Purdue in charge instead of Pat McCrory. He's nothing, a placeholder taking credit for growth that would have happened with or without him.

Every time I attempt to make myself think a McCain administration wouldn't be so bad, Sarah Palin opens her big, fucking, ignorant you betcha Marge Gunderson mouth. This morning's bite about Obama the Terrorist and the Newwww Yooorrrk Times took the cake.

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Willravel

I happen to want to vote, but people are free not to vote, too. Do you know how happy I'd be if a lot of Republicans stayed home on November 4th? Actually, that gives me an idea. They should have Wrestlemania on November 4th!

Poppinjay

That's funny.

I remember "A Current Affair" deweedlweedlweedlweedlTHWACK episode where they promised shocking, SHOCKING news about the Clinton lead in the polls in 1992.

The news was that they polled their audience and a whopping 92% supported George H.W. Bush. Of course my thought was, "hmmmm, mouth breathers who watch trash TV are overwhelmingly Republican."

George Will must be so proud.

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Tully Mars

I'm voting for Obama. I don't agree with him on every issue. I don't think it's possible to find a politician you agree with 100% of the time. Every day I hear McCain say something that either makes me laugh or cringe. Today he was talking about how Obama doesn't give specific answers, just talks vaguely and gives sound bite answers. Ummm, Mr. McCain have you met your running mate?

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Rekna

For Obama

ASU2003

I'm going to be voting 'for' one of the 5 or 6 candidates. I'm just not sure which one yet.

The only person I voted 'for' was McCain back in the 2000 Michigan primary against GW. The media/Bush's people/Rush all came out and said that we wanted McCain to win so the Dems could beat him in 2000... I voted against Bush in Nov.

hunnychile

Anyone who votes for Nader is just throwing away their vote IMHO.

It's a waste and sad that folks are so ignorant sometimes, esp. since things MUST change and Soon.

As I've said before, I'm voting for Obama and proud of it.

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Tully Mars

Some people look at McCain and can't find anything to like. That's where I am with him especially after his VP pick. Other's look at Obama and can't find anything to like, not even a little. Personally I find plenty to like about Obama and like you I'm proud to vote for him. But there's some people out there that look at both of these guys and don't see anything they like. If they choose to vote for someone else or not vote at all that's completely their right, IMHO. So I don't see it as being sad or a waste. I see it as people exercising their right to vote for whomever they decide.

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snowy

I definitely wouldn't call my SO ignorant, and he's either voting for Nader or McKinney. He's probably better educated on the issues than the majority of Americans. I don't think he's throwing his vote away; he's using his vote to say something, just like you and I are. Certainly, with the current system, it's hard for independent and third-party candidates to gain traction, but guess what? They're never going to gain any traction if people don't vote for them. He's making a statement about change just as much as you are--albeit in a different way.

Besides, Obama will comfortably carry Oregon, so his vote is well spent on a third-party candidate. And it's his vote to do what he likes with anyway. I vote third-party in some elections, especially local elections. My city councilman is a Pacific Green, and he's running as a Pacific Green for Congress for a seat he has no chance of winning (he's running against the popular incumbent, Rep. Peter DeFazio). I'll be voting for him instead of DeFazio to show some third-party support.

Again, the system will never change if people just keep on voting between the two parties. Some of us have to stick our neck out sometime. For me, this is not that time, but it is for some, and it's better to try and understand that than to call them ignorant or say they're wasting their vote.

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ratbastid

Yeah, in that kind of situation, sure send a message with your vote. Here in North Carolina, LITERALLY a handful of votes might change the outcome for the state, and might contribute to a close outcome overall. I think people around here have to be much more pragmatic with their vote.

The Faba

I'm voting for Bob Barr all the way.

Wooo, Libertarians! Wooo!


... and no, I don't think I'm throwing my vote away. It's a statement of what I beleive in - and who knows, one vote could start an avalanche, causing the dominoes to fall like a house of cards... checkmate!

ottopilot

I'm voting for the "hell in a hand-basket" candidate.

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Derwood

On the one hand, props to everyone for voting for the candidate they support the most.

On the other, your "voice" is falling on the deaf ears of the two party system.

Tully Mars

Yes, but in the two party system nothing will ever change unless people start voting their true feelings. And I think our two party system is causing damage.

That said even if I really didn't care that much for Obama I'd have a hard time not voting for him in a state that I knew was going to be close. McCain and his recent behavior have convinced me he is, by far, the greater of the two evils.

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Derwood

The only way the two party system will be broken is by a massive, grass-roots uprising of the independent parties. You going and voting for Bob Barr or Ralph Nader doesn't amount to squat on a voter-by-voter basis

Deltona Couple

For those of you that know me best, you know that I am a very outspoken (at times crass) Liberal Republican. And after seeing the coverage and watching the candidates intently for months now, I am going to *cough* have to confess that *cough* I am going to vote *cough* against my party for the presidential election*gag**hack*. Not that I am voting against McCain, but that I actually like what Obama has been saying, and the way he has been approaching things. So here it is, mark the date, I am voting *cough hack gag* Democrat President this time.

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Tully Mars

I completely agree with you here.

In this case, personally, I can't cast my ballot for anyone other then Obama. I'm doing that as an expat living in Mexico. But I believe my vote counts in the Oregon tally. I can't see Obama losing Oregon. But that really doesn't matter to me. To me the best choice simply is Obama. No holding my nose, no voting against McCain. Pure and simple... voting for Obama.

I've said it before. I see the US two party political situation like a drug addict or alcoholic. Until the bottom completely falls out it's just more of the same and there won't be any change. Honestly when you look at it we've been at this for a couple hundred years. Maybe it's time to stop thumping our chests and yelling "we're number one, we're number one," take a look around and see if there's anything we could learn from nations that have been doing this for 2, 3 or even 4 times as long.

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smooth

For Obama.

In fact, in the beginning I was actually in the unique position that I wasn't genuinely concerned over US trajectory in the event McCain took office but that's not the case anymore.

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Glory's Sun

heh I'm hoping the same thing.. although Purdue wasn't my first choice in that nomination..McCrory is bad bad news. Huh.. McCain McCrory.. it all makes sense now

I'm voting against McCain/Palin. I know you don't want to know who we're voting for, but I'm an independent so I can't say that I'm going against party lines or any of that crap. I'm just seriously worried on what could happen to this country if the current republican ticket were allowed to win..especially if congress ever goes back to a majority in their favor... [shudder]

Derwood

the scope of the two-party stranglehold goes beyond the presidential race as well. Imagine that somehow (god forbid) Ron Paul was elected president. How many of his initiatives do you think would make it through Congress as endorsed legislation? I'm guessing none. In other words, even if a "fringe" candidate somehow made it to the White House, the checks and balances of a mostly two-party legislature would effectively neuter that President's agenda.