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LordEden 04-28-2010 08:48 AM

I don't understand how people like this don't think they are going to be caught? Just because you don't have a social life doesn't mean the government can't find you.

Personally, I applaud what he did, but doesn't mean I'm going to be throwing cigarettes over the prison wall to help keep his virgin butthole safe.

Tully Mars 04-28-2010 09:23 AM

Personally I don't applaud what he did. I have a serious dislike for Palin and her ilk but the law is the law and breaking it just because she's a douche doesn't make it right.

The_Jazz 04-28-2010 09:34 AM

This is remarkably off-topic, but I kind-of-sort-of agree with you, Tully. I don't like her, but it's against the law. But I have a real problem with this being prosecuted under the Patriot Act. That's bullshit, and it's the misuse of a law designed to stop terrorists, not dumbass /b/tards.

Cimarron29414 04-28-2010 09:51 AM

Yeah, it seems like they moved identity theft under the Patriot Act umbrella, though I don't know why. The best I could speculate is that it's a resource sharing issue? The resources and skills used to track terrorists fall in line with identity theft investigation? Did it mean harsher sentences or does it simply fall under that investigative/legal authority? I know the words "Patriot Act" are generally offensive, but did it really make a difference as to the harshness of the charges on this guy? I don't know.

I'm glad to see a couple of you speak up. I don't know how anyone could applaud this guy or what he did. We are a nation of laws, not men.

kutulu 04-28-2010 10:33 AM

He was wrong and should pay for his crime but significant jail time isn't the answer to this. We have rapists and violent criminals who cause a hell of a low more trouble than this /b/tard did and they get off easy.

Cimarron29414 04-28-2010 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by kutulu (Post 2781894)
He was wrong and should pay for his crime but significant jail time isn't the answer to this. We have rapists and violent criminals who cause a hell of a low more trouble than this /b/tard did and they get off easy.

Truer words have never been spoken. They are going to let a rapist out early so he has a bunk.

LordEden 04-28-2010 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Tully Mars (Post 2781873)
Personally I don't applaud what he did. I have a serious dislike for Palin and her ilk but the law is the law and breaking it just because she's a douche doesn't make it right.

I will say that my applauding this kinda of crime is based on if I like the person or not. I could argue about using a unsecured web based email like Yahoo for a government correspondence, but it really is just a cover; I just don't like Palin.

Was it a crime? Yes. Was it wrong? Yes. Should he go to jail? Yes. Would I be pissed if it happened to me/friend/family/famous media figure I actually give a damn about? Yes.

So yes, I only like that her email got hacked because I don't like her. I don't like that he is being prosecuted under the Patriot Act, because it was a personal account (as not being part of government intraweb/vpn/.gov account), but yeah... broke the law, do not pass go, do not collect $200.

Tully Mars 04-28-2010 12:24 PM

The problem with fucking with people like Governors is you spin the wheel and whatever the US attorney chooses to do in the case is out of your control.

That said- using the patriot act for this is indeed bullshit.

Cimarron29414 04-29-2010 07:46 AM

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Originally Posted by LordEden (Post 2781944)
I will say that my applauding this kinda of crime is based on if I like the person or not. I could argue about using a unsecured web based email like Yahoo for a government correspondence, but it really is just a cover; I just don't like Palin.

Was it a crime? Yes. Was it wrong? Yes. Should he go to jail? Yes. Would I be pissed if it happened to me/friend/family/famous media figure I actually give a damn about? Yes.

So yes, I only like that her email got hacked because I don't like her. I don't like that he is being prosecuted under the Patriot Act, because it was a personal account (as not being part of government intraweb/vpn/.gov account), but yeah... broke the law, do not pass go, do not collect $200.

Sounds like an opportunity for you to grow as a person. I admire you for admitting the core of the matter. I'm sure you know that reveling when bad things happen to people you don't like is not a good character trait. Recognizing a fault in one's personality is the first step towards correcting it. Good luck! :thumbsup:

Cimarron29414 04-30-2010 01:34 PM

Guilty on obstructing an investigation (max 20 years)
Guilty on unauthorized access to a computer (max one year)
Acquitted on wire fraud
Deadlocked on Identity Theft

I would imagine the prosecution will wait for sentencing to determine whether to retry him on the Identity Theft charge. I'll trim my guess and say he gets 6 years.

WinchesterAA 05-01-2010 06:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dc_dux (Post 2526746)

I'm getting more and more of a sense that Palin has no more interest in an open and transparent government than Bush/Cheney,

Lol, really?

Tell me, my friend, what did you expect from girl?


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