Tilted Forum Project Discussion Community  

Go Back   Tilted Forum Project Discussion Community > The Academy > Tilted Politics


 
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
Old 02-19-2008, 08:21 PM   #1 (permalink)
immoral minority
 
ASU2003's Avatar
 
Location: Back in Ohio
If they are going to do it, we will too.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/7248995.stm

It didn't take me that long to figure out why the US would shoot down a satellite that would be unlikely to cause any damage. We have shot stuff down before, but not in 23 years. However if you remember a year ago, China shot down one of their satellites in a test.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...011801029.html

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/6289519.stm

Last edited by ASU2003; 02-19-2008 at 08:24 PM..
ASU2003 is offline  
Old 02-19-2008, 09:39 PM   #2 (permalink)
Lennonite Priest
 
pan6467's Avatar
 
Location: Mansfield, Ohio USA
Quote:
Originally Posted by ASU2003
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/7248995.stm

It didn't take me that long to figure out why the US would shoot down a satellite that would be unlikely to cause any damage. We have shot stuff down before, but not in 23 years. However if you remember a year ago, China shot down one of their satellites in a test.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...011801029.html

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/6289519.stm
I think it could be both ways.

Let's look at a hypothetical paranoidal situation:

We send up a spysat carrying a massive amount of Hydrazine. Now let's say in the near future we felt threatened by Iran/China etc. We announced a while ago that it was out of control, so if it fell into orbit and "accidentally" fell on the country we were having a problem with and released the gas.... we weren't at fault it was uncontrolled. (Meanwhile, all along "they" (the US intelligence) did have control of it but the country and everyone around the world buys into the accident except the "nutty conspiracy theorists" who no one listens to.

But now, perhaps it truly is uncontrollable and "they" don't want to run the risk of it landing here or in a friendly zone. So why not shoot it dwn and kill 2 birds with one stone.

Or the shoot down could be a ploy and "oops we missed.... sorry Iran/China/etc.).

Is any of it:

Paranoid? Yes.

Probable? Absolutely not.

Possible? Absolutely YES.
__________________
I just love people who use the excuse "I use/do this because I LOVE the feeling/joy/happiness it brings me" and expect you to be ok with that as you watch them destroy their life blindly following. My response is, "I like to put forks in an eletrical socket, just LOVE that feeling, can't ever get enough of it, so will you let me put this copper fork in that electric socket?"
pan6467 is offline  
Old 02-19-2008, 09:52 PM   #3 (permalink)
Psycho
 
sprocket's Avatar
 
Location: In transit
This wired article has some more insight on this who issue:

http://blog.wired.com/defense/2008/0...rationale.html

Quote:
....

My real concern is that this is simply a knee-jerk reaction made by the Administration in response to the purported threat by the Chinese. Since the April 2007 ASAT [anti-satellite] test, there have been rumors and whispers going around that the Administration and like-minded individuals are looking for more sticks (instead of carrots) to use against China. While this "shoot down" is not a direct action against China, it would be a clear signal that the US can possess an active ASAT capability at any time if it so desires. That is a serious development as the previous US ASAT system using F-15s was mothballed in the 1980's.

There are many significant political ramifications that would happen as a result of this. The US has been berating the Chinese on their ASAT test but now demonstrate that it is okay as long as it occurs at a low enough altitude to prevent long-lasting debris and can "save lives". This is close to an implied "ok" for the US and other nations to conduct more ASAT tests, which could open another arms race. I am also certain that Russian and China would also see this as a slap in the face as they are trying to revive the Peaceful Uses of Outer Space treaty discussion and ban on space weapons. It would further negatively affect the relations between them and the US. Which could lead to increased tensions, arms buildup, etc etc etc. Nothing good for anyone outside of arms manufacturers and politicians that need a bogeyman to scare people into voting for them.

...
I honestly dont have expertise to comment either way, but its interesting food for thought.
__________________
Remember, wherever you go... there you are.
sprocket is offline  
Old 02-19-2008, 10:03 PM   #4 (permalink)
Tilted Cat Head
 
Cynthetiq's Avatar
 
Administrator
Location: Manhattan, NY
If this is any discussion thread, and especially a politics thread, you should know better than to just dangle a link and no basis for starting a discussion. Rework the OP and then contact a staff member to reopen the thread.
__________________
I don't care if you are black, white, purple, green, Chinese, Japanese, Korean, hippie, cop, bum, admin, user, English, Irish, French, Catholic, Protestant, Jewish, Buddhist, Muslim, indian, cowboy, tall, short, fat, skinny, emo, punk, mod, rocker, straight, gay, lesbian, jock, nerd, geek, Democrat, Republican, Libertarian, Independent, driver, pedestrian, or bicyclist, either you're an asshole or you're not.
Cynthetiq is offline  
 

Tags
it


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



All times are GMT -8. The time now is 09:04 PM.

Tilted Forum Project

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0 PL2
© 2002-2012 Tilted Forum Project

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70 71 72 73