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Sparhawk · 06-25-2003, 09:30 AM

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Originally posted by seretogis
Who, for religious or medical reasons, cannot have the man use condoms? A friend of mine is allergic to latex, so their partner has to use lambskin condoms, but they are available and work just as well.

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Yes, there are also people who consider birth control to be sinful -- as well as any sex performed without intent to impregnante.

Hey, you answered your own question!

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Originally posted by seretogis
All you're doing is playing around with words. "Pro-choice" implies that I do not believe in choice, which is incorrect. People should exercise said choice before another life is involved, not make life-threatening choices for a child.

I think the whole women-shouldn't-have-control-over-their-own-bodies thesis of yours pretty much pidgeon-holed you there. Sorry.

samremy · 06-25-2003, 11:25 AM

<div align=justify>After reading through all the posts in this thread, I must say that I'm quite relieved that most of the arguments focus on the legal specifics of the right of an abortion and not at all about reversing the court's decision. Extremists on both sides of the issue, women who abort every-other-month and those who kill doctors and blow-up abortion clinics in the name of god to protect the children disturb me on different levels. If a woman chooses to abort every-other-month as an idiotic form of birth-control and has the procedure done according to the laws of the state in which said procedure is performed, then the only probable harm I see that is done is to her finances, self-respect, her loved ones and really, ultimately herself. Do I think it's right of her? Morally I'd have to say no, but legally, it's her right and if she follows the guidelines of the law then my morality has no jurisdiction or say over that right. Now for the other extreme, murder is wrong. Period. (You don't see militant conservatives blowing up IRS buildings because they don't like what's happening inside, do you?;p ) Rules, regulations and limits are set for all of our cherished rights, so that they aren't abused, but to take a right away just because of a change of heart or justices or morality, I feel, is criminal and should be avoided.</div>

seretogis · 06-25-2003, 01:16 PM

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Originally posted by Sparhawk
Hey, you answered your own question!

I can't think of any religious group who would consider it sinful to use birth control, but then be fine with using abortion as such a method of it. Are you blowing smoke, or is there actually a legitimate claim of correlation?

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Originally posted by Sparhawk
I think the whole women-shouldn't-have-control-over-their-own-bodies thesis of yours pretty much pidgeon-holed you there. Sorry.

06-25-2003, 11:25 AM	#42 (permalink)
samremy ‘Crotch Level’ Intellectual Location: Southwest, USA	<div align=justify>After reading through all the posts in this thread, I must say that I'm quite relieved that most of the arguments focus on the legal specifics of the right of an abortion and not at all about reversing the court's decision. Extremists on both sides of the issue, women who abort every-other-month and those who kill doctors and blow-up abortion clinics in the name of god to protect the children disturb me on different levels. If a woman chooses to abort every-other-month as an idiotic form of birth-control and has the procedure done according to the laws of the state in which said procedure is performed, then the only probable harm I see that is done is to her finances, self-respect, her loved ones and really, ultimately herself. Do I think it's right of her? Morally I'd have to say no, but legally, it's her right and if she follows the guidelines of the law then my morality has no jurisdiction or say over that right. Now for the other extreme, murder is wrong. Period. (You don't see militant conservatives blowing up IRS buildings because they don't like what's happening inside, do you?;p ) Rules, regulations and limits are set for all of our cherished rights, so that they aren't abused, but to take a right away just because of a change of heart or justices or morality, I feel, is criminal and should be avoided.</div> __________________ "...to secure these Rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just Powers from the Consent of the Governed, that whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these Ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government .. " -- The US Declaration of Independence Last edited by samremy; 06-25-2003 at 11:33 AM..