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Old 06-16-2004, 01:11 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Multiverses

Where do you stand on the theory of multiverses (whenever there is an event, a new universe is made. Since there are infinite events and infinite ways the events can happen, that's a lot of 'verses.)

I feel that this is the most accurate theory that I've heard so far. This came up in the Newgrounds forum where me and a couple of other people are arguing about time travel. Just wanted to see what you guys thought.

By the way, check out the NG thread. You can leave your thoughts about "circular time" there (something I had never heard of before).
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Old 06-16-2004, 10:58 PM   #2 (permalink)
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The concept of a multiverse is an interesting thought and will remain as nothing more than an interesting though until I've been given reason to think otherwise.

I've read a few articles and have seen enough equations for a life time and all I've been left with is a pile of ideas - some facts but mostly ideas.

However, imagine us disturbing the balance of time (that is, if there is a balance) so that things don't run in their normal succesion. Imagine walking into yesterday, or or being stuck in the day you pissed your pants on the way to school, or when you lost your virginity...

It's a great idea but it's human nature to cluster fuck everything in our path and the reprocussions in this matter are endless.
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Old 06-17-2004, 01:32 AM   #3 (permalink)
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ok, first off i'm not saying its real or non real, just think tho how big space is and how big this 'verse is.....

that being said how much room, assumeing that there are infant universes, is taken up by them!

also assumeing that we get a means of teleportation or time travel then would we accuatly end up in our time and space or would we just get into another one... could we go into another one?
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Old 06-19-2004, 06:39 PM   #4 (permalink)
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The biggest problem with a multiverse theory is explaining consciousness, because you can come up with all the equations you want to say when the universe splits, how it splits, and whatever but it comes down to this question: why do we experience _this_ reality. I mean, assuming that splitting is involved, there's an infinite number of ourselves being created every moment, yet our consciousness chooses to follow one path and continuously at that.

In quantum mechanics, this is usually called 'many-minds' or 'many-worlds,' and the theory does very well in empirical predictions but falls into some problems when trying to explain why the splitting happens and how we experience it. If you're talking about time travel, it could be a convenient way to avoid paradoxes of going back in time. I can't say I'm too convinced that we live in a multiverse. It's so hard to have direct evidence of it.
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Old 06-20-2004, 06:18 AM   #5 (permalink)
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The biggest problem with a multiverse theory is explaining consciousness, because you can come up with all the equations you want to say when the universe splits, how it splits, and whatever but it comes down to this question: why do we experience _this_ reality. I mean, assuming that splitting is involved, there's an infinite number of ourselves being created every moment, yet our consciousness chooses to follow one path and continuously at that.
I don't see the problem: from any one world-line's perspective, the universe continues back continuously forever.

Thus, to any consciousness, reality seems on the surface to be a single thread.

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In quantum mechanics, this is usually called 'many-minds' or 'many-worlds,' and the theory does very well in empirical predictions but falls into some problems when trying to explain why the splitting happens and how we experience it.
Under many-universes, the splitting doesn't actually happen. Rather, things "rotate" out of phase with each other to a larger and larger degree. They never completely get out of phase, but they get close enough to completely out of phase that you can no longer detect the "almost right-angle" parts of the multiverse. When it becomes indistinguishable from background QM noise, it is in practice unreachable/uncommunicateable with.

The Wikipedia entry on many-worlds QM interpritation is a good read.

The interesting thing about the MW interpritation is that many of the properties of QM fall out naturally without having to invent axioms. I've seen a paper that seemed to imply you can pull this off without relying on many-worlds, but I didn't read it enough to describe how she pulled it off.
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