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KnifeMissile · 02-15-2004, 07:33 PM

Why is this thread so hard for people to understand? I think the point is obvious.

The same incredulity you feel for believing that rsl12 is God is exactly the same incredulity that athiests feel for the Christian God (and others, I'm sure), for both are equally provable. That is to say, neither of these assertions can be proven, at all. At the same time, neither of these things can be disproven. In fact, these assertions have so little bearing on reality that there existence cannot even be debated rationally.

Let me say it in plain words. Any rebuttal to refutations that there is a God can be used to rebut refutations that rsl12 is God.
Sorry, in retrospect, those words weren't so plain. I know people have trouble with double negatives and esoteric word tenses, so I'll really try it say it even more plainly. All arguments used to defend the existence of God can be used to defend that rsl12 is God. Therefore, believing in God is about as useful as believing that rsl12 is God...

rsl12 · 02-16-2004, 06:15 PM

thanks knifemissile

another disciple of my religion...

btw, i'm not athiest. i'm god, so i believe in myself, i should think.

gorilla · 02-20-2004, 09:34 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Ogre840
Nothing to see here move on.

There is no god, religion is a tool to control the masses.

Also god is just an idea to help you deal with death. When your dead, your perspective on 'life' is over.

Go out, live YOUR life and be happy, cause once its over, its over.

I agree... get off you're computer and go outside, I know Im going to

RenaissanceII · 02-21-2004, 08:44 AM

My view on Religion vs. spirituality

Religion is the BUSINESS of god

Sprituality is conversating and listening to/with god

Take what you need and leave the rest

DownwardSpiral · 02-26-2004, 08:26 PM

Pointless to argue with one's delusions. I.E. You thinking you're God. You can call yourself God all you want, dosen't change the fact that it's a false statement.

Mantus · 02-26-2004, 09:01 PM

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Originally posted by DownwardSpiral
Pointless to argue with one's delusions. I.E. You thinking you're God. You can call yourself God all you want, dosen't change the fact that it's a false statement.

But you cant prove that.

All bow before rsl12! *grovels on his knees*.

Shpoop · 02-27-2004, 01:39 PM

what the hell are you people talking about? cant disprove that my ass...you say you are omniscient, knowing everything, so tell me all about myself...

im anticipating an "i'm subtle and will conceal my knowledge" response, :-b

Mantus · 02-27-2004, 04:38 PM

You must have faith Shpoop. Its all part of God's plan and who are we to question his devine motives.

tecoyah · 02-27-2004, 05:58 PM

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Originally posted by Shpoop
what the hell are you people talking about? cant disprove that my ass...you say you are omniscient, knowing everything, so tell me all about myself...

im anticipating an "i'm subtle and will conceal my knowledge" response, :-b

I just asked that other "god" to tell me all about myself...no reply.
Wait, maybe it is just subtle, and.........

rsl12 · 02-28-2004, 07:39 AM

people are getting the point. i'm so glad. my work here is done.

filtherton · 02-28-2004, 08:09 AM

Congratulations are in order!!! rsl has proven beyond a reasonable doubt that all faith is mistaken.
wait... no he hasn't.

Wait, well, what's the point?
I don't know.
Is it that faith is by definition akin to a blind leap?
Maybe?

Having faith in god can be compared to having faith that the sun is going to come up tomorrow. Neither are verifiable by any current scientific means(unless you can travel through time, and even then you could never actually get to tomorrow).
Any argument that could be used to challenge the existence of god, or rsl's status as god, could be modified to challenge the notion that the sun will indeed rise tomorrow. And yet we all still make plans as if the world will still exist in 24 hours.

All you've succeeded in doing is pointing out the fact that all of existence is faith based.

Mantus · 02-28-2004, 10:28 AM

I don’t believe this thread tries to prove that faith is mistaken. It shows that our faith in certain things cannot be justified. Though the fact that Rsl12 is God is justified because I can feel the truth behind the statement.

rsl12 · 03-01-2004, 07:24 AM

Thanks mantus for your faith. it will be rewarded.

Mantus does have it right--my main point is that the currently accepted notions of god make it impossible to argue in any fashion for or against his existence. Cynics may question why this is the case, since the definition of the christian god has changed in the last few centuries, but that's a question I leave for another thread.

02-16-2004, 06:15 PM	#42 (permalink)
rsl12 On the lam Location: northern va	thanks knifemissile another disciple of my religion... btw, i'm not athiest. i'm god, so i believe in myself, i should think. __________________ oh baby oh baby, i like gravy.

02-21-2004, 08:44 AM	#44 (permalink)
RenaissanceII Psycho Location: Grand Rapids	My view on Religion vs. spirituality Religion is the BUSINESS of god Sprituality is conversating and listening to/with god Take what you need and leave the rest __________________ *And the day came when the risk to remain tight in a bud was more painful than the risk it took to blossom.* Anais Nin I Wish *You* Well.

02-26-2004, 08:26 PM	#45 (permalink)
DownwardSpiral The Funeral of Hearts Location: Trapped inside my mind. . .	Pointless to argue with one's delusions. I.E. You thinking you're God. You can call yourself God all you want, dosen't change the fact that it's a false statement. __________________ "So Keep on Pretending. Our Heavens Worth the Waiting. Keep on Pretending. It's Alright." -- H.I.M., "Pretending"

02-28-2004, 07:39 AM	#50 (permalink)
rsl12 On the lam Location: northern va	people are getting the point. i'm so glad. my work here is done. __________________ oh baby oh baby, i like gravy.

02-28-2004, 10:28 AM	#52 (permalink)
Mantus lascivious	I don’t believe this thread tries to prove that faith is mistaken. It shows that our faith in certain things cannot be justified. Though the fact that Rsl12 is God is justified because I can feel the truth behind the statement. Last edited by Mantus; 02-28-2004 at 02:43 PM..

02-15-2004, 07:33 PM	#41 (permalink)
KnifeMissile Location: Waterloo, Ontario	Why is this thread so hard for people to understand? I think the point is obvious. The same incredulity you feel for believing that rsl12 is God is exactly the same incredulity that athiests feel for the Christian God (and others, I'm sure), for both are equally provable. That is to say, neither of these assertions can be proven, at all. At the same time, neither of these things can be disproven. In fact, these assertions have so little bearing on reality that there existence cannot even be debated rationally. Let me say it in plain words. Any rebuttal to refutations that there is a God can be used to rebut refutations that rsl12 is God. Sorry, in retrospect, those words weren't so plain. I know people have trouble with double negatives and esoteric word tenses, so I'll really try it say it even more plainly. All arguments used to defend the existence of God can be used to defend that rsl12 is God. Therefore, believing in God is about as useful as believing that rsl12 is God...

02-27-2004, 01:39 PM	#47 (permalink)
Shpoop Curious Location: NJ (but just for college)	what the hell are you people talking about? cant disprove that my ass...you say you are omniscient, knowing everything, so tell me all about myself... im anticipating an "i'm subtle and will conceal my knowledge" response, :-b

02-27-2004, 04:38 PM	#48 (permalink)
Mantus lascivious	You must have faith Shpoop. Its all part of God's plan and who are we to question his devine motives.

02-28-2004, 08:09 AM	#51 (permalink)
filtherton Junkie Location: In the land of ice and snow.	Congratulations are in order!!! rsl has proven beyond a reasonable doubt that all faith is mistaken. wait... no he hasn't. Wait, well, what's the point? I don't know. Is it that faith is by definition akin to a blind leap? Maybe? Having faith in god can be compared to having faith that the sun is going to come up tomorrow. Neither are verifiable by any current scientific means(unless you can travel through time, and even then you could never actually get to tomorrow). Any argument that could be used to challenge the existence of god, or rsl's status as god, could be modified to challenge the notion that the sun will indeed rise tomorrow. And yet we all still make plans as if the world will still exist in 24 hours. All you've succeeded in doing is pointing out the fact that all of existence is faith based.

03-01-2004, 07:24 AM	#53 (permalink)
rsl12 On the lam Location: northern va	Thanks mantus for your faith. it will be rewarded. Mantus does have it right--my main point is that the currently accepted notions of god make it impossible to argue in any fashion for or against his existence. Cynics may question why this is the case, since the definition of the christian god has changed in the last few centuries, but that's a question I leave for another thread. __________________ oh baby oh baby, i like gravy.