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Old 10-08-2003, 07:28 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Half empty or half full? My answer. :)

Is the glass half-empty or half-full?

I would say it depends on whether the glass is in the process of being emptied or filled.

It's much like being halfway between point A and point B. If you're going from A to B, then you're halfway to point B; if you're going from B to A, then you're halfway to A. If the glass in question is halfway through being filled up, then it's half-full. If it's halfway through being emptied, then it's half-empty.
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Old 10-08-2003, 07:41 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Damn straight...... Im with you.... its all about where you are looking from....
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Old 10-08-2003, 09:08 PM   #3 (permalink)
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I've always liked this view-point:

It doesn't matter if the glass is half empty or half full. Just as long as there is a full bottle nearby.

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Old 10-08-2003, 10:36 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Some people wonder if the glass is half empty or half full. I just wonder who the hell is drinking my beer!?!

I saw that on a T-shirt.

I agree that it all depends on your perspective, which is influenced greatly by the process going on that causes the glass to be half empty or half full.
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Old 10-09-2003, 04:35 AM   #5 (permalink)
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I say the glass is twice as big as it needs to be.
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Old 10-09-2003, 04:38 AM   #6 (permalink)
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I say it should be a paper cup.
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Old 10-09-2003, 06:44 AM   #7 (permalink)
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Does it really matter? It just means its almost time for a refill.
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Old 10-09-2003, 05:27 PM   #8 (permalink)
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who leaves half a glass of water to be pondered? just drink the damn thing!
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Old 10-09-2003, 09:50 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Its kinda funny reading all of these responses and taking them seriously from a philosophical standpoint. Check this out:

Quote:
Originally posted by Kyo
I say the glass is twice as big as it needs to be.
Kyo, you could very well be saying here that our culture has gotten too greedy and that we should simply be satisfied with what we have rather than chase after an inflated dream of everything.

Quote:
Originally posted by mb99usa
Does it really matter? It just means its almost time for a refill.
mb99usa, I'm particularly fond of this response because it obviously indicates that there are times in our lives when we have to get back to our roots and realize once again why we are doing the things we are doing. During this time of personal renewal, our soul is refilled and our purpose once again becomes clear.


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who leaves half a glass of water to be pondered? just drink the damn thing!
krwlz, you sound like the kind of person who likes to live life to the fullest with no holds barred. Why ask questions when you'll discover the answers on your own anyway? That is a bold and admirable way to live.

Man, its amazing what people come up with when they're just talking about water.
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Old 10-09-2003, 09:58 PM   #10 (permalink)
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full clip

half clip

empty clip

not half full or half empty thats self help jargen

just half.
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Old 10-09-2003, 11:05 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Whats wrong with just saying "half a glass"?
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Old 10-09-2003, 11:55 PM   #12 (permalink)
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nice insights kilconey :-D

it depends on the size of the glass. :P

i'd like to think i'm a pessimist trained optimistic. but sometimes my inner pessimism comes out.
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Old 10-10-2003, 01:41 AM   #13 (permalink)
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actually its neither. I mean no one ever fills their glass to the BRIM.. and thus a full glass isn't quite to the very top. So when you fill it to the "half way mark" its not really half way. So in all technicalities, I simply cannot answer this question.

Besides.. when I get a large glass of milk.. I dont judge it by how much is in the glass, but how much just used to be in the jug... as it really drains the gallon
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Old 10-10-2003, 03:20 AM   #14 (permalink)
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A utilitarian perspective:

Saying half full is more useful than saying half empty because then you can then in conversation specify exactly what's in it.

Saying "the glass is half full of orange juice" makes sense.

Saying "the glass is half empty of orange juice" makes less sense.
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Old 10-10-2003, 05:25 AM   #15 (permalink)
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half empty makes no sense for me

i made this thread earlier if anyone wants to checkout some other respones?

http://www.tfproject.org/tfp/showthr...mpty+illogical
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Old 10-10-2003, 06:32 PM   #16 (permalink)
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there is no glass
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Old 10-10-2003, 08:22 PM   #17 (permalink)
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Kyo, you could very well be saying here that our culture has gotten too greedy and that we should simply be satisfied with what we have rather than chase after an inflated dream of everything.
I could very well be saying that, but then I would go into a discussion of why the glass is in its current state of fullness/emptiness and whether we should get a refill or not.

Actually, I had a more practical meaning - efficiency. if you are only going to use half the cup, why not save yourself the effort (and the washing) and just get a smaller one. Ultimate efficiency means always using exactly what you need - no more, no less. Why design a boat that can carry 40 people if it will never carry more than 10? It's the principle that all engineers are always striving for.
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Old 10-10-2003, 08:26 PM   #18 (permalink)
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Quote:
Originally posted by Killconey
krwlz, you sound like the kind of person who likes to live life to the fullest with no holds barred. Why ask questions when you'll discover the answers on your own anyway? That is a bold and admirable way to live.

Man, its amazing what people come up with when they're just talking about water.
I know that I wasnt aware I said all that... Very insightful though, you pretty much hit the nail on the head.
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Old 10-11-2003, 01:43 AM   #19 (permalink)
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The philosophy of living like there is no tomorrow would dictate that it is halfway to another glass, which I've always liked.
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Old 10-11-2003, 05:07 AM   #20 (permalink)
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You fool! It is at 53%! Bah!
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Old 10-11-2003, 11:22 AM   #21 (permalink)
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the only answer i can come up with that applies to all scenarios is this: It depends on whether or not we want to drink the water
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Old 10-17-2003, 11:43 AM   #22 (permalink)
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perhaps the glass skews the actual amount that is in there. depends on the angel you look at really.

and cant we appreciate what is there? the glass has somethign in it. woo, there ya go.
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Old 10-25-2003, 11:07 AM   #23 (permalink)
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I think it depends on the day. Today its half full
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Old 10-25-2003, 12:27 PM   #24 (permalink)
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If your friends are any kind of friends, the glass will be full when you next go to have a drink. But i do like your philosphy as to whether it's being emptied or filled, isgood!
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Old 10-27-2003, 12:28 AM   #25 (permalink)
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i think you people are over literalising this metaphor :P
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Old 10-28-2003, 05:56 PM   #26 (permalink)
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what if it is just in a state of being, if their has been no change to the fullness or emtyness of the glass, ever. Then their isn't a favoured direction, and then it is. In that sence, you must look at it as a way your mind works. If you do it without preping yourself, and see what you say.
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Old 10-30-2003, 12:21 AM   #27 (permalink)
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Wow, very good point.

Brilliance.
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Old 10-30-2003, 09:45 AM   #28 (permalink)
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Profound philosophical insights? Maybe it depends on if you need the toilet or not. I'm an optimist, but sometimes the best that can happen is still evidently undesirable. What if you're a nihilist, and you believe that there is no point to there being a glass in the first place, since you can drink from the tap? Anyone believe there is no purpose?
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Old 10-30-2003, 12:47 PM   #29 (permalink)
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Half-empty.
Cracked.
Dirty.
Full of germs.
What's the use?
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Old 10-30-2003, 01:10 PM   #30 (permalink)
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Hmm...sounds like someone found a cup from Mc. Donalds.....
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Old 11-08-2003, 07:08 AM   #31 (permalink)
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it is full: Half of water, half of air.
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Old 11-12-2003, 06:45 PM   #32 (permalink)
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That's what I said too!
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Old 11-13-2003, 01:45 AM   #33 (permalink)
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Something I was told seemed to answer this for me. I believe this idea, like all great ideas originally came from Bill Cosby The question isn't half full or half empty, but rather, are you the drinker or the pourer? Its a matter of perspective. If you are the pourer half is more than the drinker deserves. If you are the drinker, you would say half isn't enough. So which one are you in the situation, drinker or pourer?
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Old 11-13-2003, 03:28 AM   #34 (permalink)
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half a glass is better then none

what a min that loaf

o well i try
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Old 11-13-2003, 12:36 PM   #35 (permalink)
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isn't it obviously both?
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