freedomdowntime

I never understood the viewpoint of someone who thinks that we should bring back animals that man caused to go extinct. The viewpoint seems to me to completely remove humans from the animal kingdom. I haven’t seen anyone say that we should bring back animals that died off before humans.

Dragonlich

I'd say that in nature, extinction of one species is brought about by a more succesful species taking over food supplies and certain living areas.

How is this different from man-made-extinction?

also-chaffed

to shay or however it is spelled. why is a man made damn destructive while a beaver made damn natural?

Yet man and other species have been known to dig themselves into a hole which collapses on them thus killing them.
Brave or stupid. Either way we've come a long way.

So fuck you Merlin.

Oh I'm sorry I was thinking of something else

No bother, I'll just create my own idealogy and make everything seem different. Ah yes.

Doh. Shoot me now.

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madsenj37

Man is apart of nature. As long as man perishes nature wins.

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jester

Don't be silly. Man is part of nature. There's nothing in this universe that isn't, and that includes your styrofoam cups and nuclear waste.

At the rate mankind is exterminating species today, in just a few generations we will have equaled to total number of species lost in the entire Pre-Cambrian extinction (the largest in the history of this planet). I don't see this as a problem. Extinction is a natural and inevitable part of our world and will continue to be so. The cause is irrelevant.

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Macheath

The only difference is that we have self-awareness.

We have immense power to change the enivornment and with that power comes the analytical ability to decide if the things we're doing are a good idea and THINK about the consequences of our actions.

The universe may be cold and indifferent (especially in regard to whether the human race exists or not) but that's no reason for us to CHOOSE to be indifferent. To calmly view extinction as natural and inevitable would also be to calmly view our OWN extinction as natural and inevitable. If somebody were trying to kill you, would you fight them off - Why? If someone was being raped in the street, would you call the police - Why?

So why CHOOSE to preserve other species besides our own? Well, in general, biological diversity is a pretty damn good thing - without diversity within our own species, the genome would collapse in a mess of mistakes. Without OTHER species, namely the bacteria in our stomachs, we could not live. Exploiting and nurturing the genetic diversity in nature opens up the possibility of finding new answers to scientific problems - directly beneficial to our own species, to which we are not indifferent.

I do agree though that any attempts to recreate communities of already extinct species would be folly; especially with our current lack of knowledge.

BBtB

Who is preposing to bring back extinct animals anyway? Beyond that who is specfically making the distinction that we should bring back man caused extinct animals? Second off I don't think we should do either. I DO think we should try to keep other animals from going extinct but we should also accept the fact that we can't save them all. There are ALOT of animals on this earth. Humans and others alike. As long as we keep going like we have been (forward but cautiously) ... atleast in the last few years. We should be fine for a good long time. We need to spend more time and money on space travel. Because really, if the aliens come and see us coddling a bunch of bald eagles and manatees. They are just going to kick our ass.

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freedomdowntime

I seem to remember some talk about bringing back the wooly mammoth (for captivity only) not to long ago. I don’t argue against preserving animals.
I totally agree that space exploration is beyond a requirement and something that needs to be worked on better then we are currently doing. I hate that when a space shuttle mission results in failure the discussion immediately turns to “maybe we should have unmanned missions.” Taking humans out of the space equation is missing what eventually has to be the goal of any space program, to aid in the human evacuation of Earth.

rogue49

yep, we all need the do-do bird back.
this is just an extreme example of our messing with nature,
to reverse the past.

We just have to remember that all our actions have consequences.
These might have negative effects, including to ourselves.
Nature outlasted the Dinosaurs, and it will outlast us.

But let's see if we can keep the peace as much as possible,
some forethought would be prudent.

MacGnG

Humans are the only organism to directly cause the exctinction of another organism. thats all thre is to it

Conclamo Ludus

Different species do it to eachother all the time as part of Natural Selection. Just not at the rate that humans do.

for more on natural selection:

Extinction through Natural Selection

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Sour84

you know how people always say Human being is human being and animal is animal. but what makes us and other species different? what makes us so special?

we are not higher than any other form of life! we are part of the nature and we are "animal"

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coulrophobia

I can't wait until apes rule the earth.