Pope Prophecy
 

I just read an interesting article from Newsmax that said some bishop named St. Malachy acuretly predicted the all the popes since the 10th century.

Prophecy on Pope Fulfilled by Eclipses?

According to St. Malachy there will only be two more popes. Pretty interesting.

Well after reading that short article, I wanted some more information so I checked wikipedia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malachy
Could the coming pope be Christ? I guess we'll find out in a few weeks!

Just imagine the uproar if that's true and if the next pope ends up being black as well. Might make a lot more sense though.

I was looking at some pages about this the other day. As far as I have seen, Nowhere in the prophesies does it say that it's actually the end of the world, only that it is the end of something. The end of the catholic church maybe? Of course this is assuming that the prophesy is real at all. No matter what happens, somebody will always find a way to assign the words to events, same thing always happens with Nostradamus' cryptic writings.

nah, the article says that there will be 2 more popes after the late john paul II. So if its true, it probably won't happen in our lifetime, that is if the next popes have as long papacy's as john paul II.

I'm pretty sure most popes don't last as long as JPII.

VICARIVS FILII DEI (Latin for: Vicar of the Son of God)

This is what is written on the Pope's gold crown at his public coronation. Change the applicable letters into Roman numerals, add them up, and what number do you get? 666.

Rock and roll!

solar eclipses occur up to 5 times a year. not that special really, especially from that standpoint of someone 1000 years ago. and it takes some handwaving to get from "labor of the sun" to eclipse.

http://www.catholic-pages.com/grabbag/malachy.asp
i know, it really narrows it down. maybe olive on the coat of arms, a country that grows olives, olive colored eyes/complexion, or a preoccupation with peace.

the complete list is at the bottom of the link. seems kind of easy to come up with connections after the fact, but what do i know.

I dont like how everything these day seems to add up to 666...

but the pope thing, i donno, I have an eerie feeling about this..

I read somewhere -- wish I could remember where, so I could provide a link -- that this is now considered to be a hoax/forgery by Jesuit priests in the 1500-1600's.

I can't remember where I heard this but there is a tradition of electing a "lean pope after a fat pope" meaning the next pope will be much older than the last and die much sooner.

Remember JPI? He died after only a month.

::Puts on tin foil hat::

they just elected the new pope today, and well.....he's pretty damn old. 78. he is Benedict XVI. i read that when a pope chooses a name different than the preceeding pope, he intends to take the church in a different direction....so we shall see.

this could be very wrong... but has anyone else heard that Cardinal Ratzinger (pope benedict XVI) used to be a member of a NAZI youth group.....

Has anyone seen the old star wars movies? the original ones, episodes 4, 5, and 6.. well is it just me, or does the new pope kind of remind you of the emperor in the movies... i don't know why but this new pope just gives me a bad feeling...

I heard, that also, from a couple of my friends.. creepy..

Eh, the Nazi Youth programs were required at the time, and he also fought for the Nazis during WWII though he deserted and ended up in a POW camp until the end of the war. He claims he never fired a round, which I suppose I believe him as I doubt many popes nowadays are huge liars...

An article from Reuters for those interested..

Link


I've heard the same thing, but it wasn't related to age at all. Fat Popes are controversial Popes and lean popes are the more conservative.

So, they usually elect a conservative Pope after the reign of a controversial one.

I don't guess it matters because either way I think it's going to be right. Benedict is certainly older than John Paul was and not likely to serve as long. Benedict as I understand it, is very much the conservative whereas John Paul was the more progressive.

I noticed the same thing about the pope/emperor. We need to find pics comparing them haha.

well, since he was from bavaria, it's not too surprising.

anyone figured out the olive connection yet? the obvious choice to fulfill the prophesy was not made.

http://apokalypso.com/MartiniOlive.html (link is pre-decision)

http://www.ciai-s.net/Cardinal-Joseph-Ratzinger.jpg http://mellody.co.za/michaela/palpat.../emperor11.jpg

http://www.rc.net/org/humanfamily/Ratzinger.jpg http://www.eyeonstarwars.com/trilogy...s/emperor2.jpg

imm i dunno... its a bit too close for comfort...

Is that sarcasm? I don't see it at all. Theyre two old guys, what do you expect?

more humor...

http://popepalpatine.ytmnd.com/
http://nazipopelol.ytmnd.com/

but you have to admit... there IS at least a SLIGHT resemblence between the two...

It's the dark sunken eyes, that's what happens to jedi when they turn to the dark side. Their eyes darken and the skin goes pale :lol:

Thats it!!! the eyes and pale skin!! and the white white hair makes his skin look even MORE pale!

I'm not Catholic and the guy spooks me out. Not anything in particular, nothing in his past that I have heard, just something...

On the last 2 popes thing, has anyone heard of the Mayan calender also ending in 2012? Maybe this thread is going to the paranoia threads!!

Yeah you guys are right, the eyes..

i enjoy this photo: (can't link it, sorry, if someone else can find a way, plese do so, it is just not working for me)
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp.../jj10704211814

Jinkies! I remember when I was about 10, JPI died and JPII became pope...there was a lot of talk then about the next pope after him being the last pope and then there'd be world peace (does anyone else recall it this way?). It's funny that now the buzz is about the end of the world...well, the end of humankind sure would bring about peace.

In the first link, (pre-decision) NewsMax mentioned the St. Benedict's claim that this pope would be of his ranks...interesting...the order of the olive.

I'm getting paraniod...the new pope does resemble the emperor...funny links!

http://img254.echo.cx/img254/4697/ca...icanpopejj.jpg

1 + 2) is it just me or do these look like horns..

3.) That smirk doesnt seem right...

4.) that ring seems to be swelling his fiinger... hmm suspicious

5.) Whats he looking at?

6.) AHH!! ITS ALIVE!!!

7.) DERRRRFFF

ehh sorry i got silly after the first 3...

haha, for some reason # 7 cracked me up.

BTW;
The Pope's title is not "Vicarius Fili Dei," which translates as "Vicar of the Son of God" but rather "Vicarius Christi," or "Vicar of Christ." The "Vicarius Fili Dei" thing is a clever scam by a number of professional Catholic-haters ( most notably Jack Chick and his ilk ) to play with Numerology and "prove" that the Pope is The Beast.

I love Chick tracts.

http://www.chick.com/tractimages38185/0001/0001_06.gif

It appears the conspiracists have made the "olive" connection between Benedict and Saint Malachy

Link a dinka doo

I don't really have an opinon on this other than to say I guess it's possible to make just about any connection if you look long and hard enough. I mean, look at the writings of Nostradamus. People have managed to read all sorts of far fetched stuff about the future in his writings.

If you want to look at prophecy, especially when it comes to religion, I'd probably look to Revelations as opposed to this Malachay. Unless I recall incorrectly, during or preceeding end times, is there not supposed to be peace amongst religions and nations? The day I read about peace in between mid east countries, north Korea no longer being a threat, muslims embracing christians, christians embracing jews, jews embracing budists.....Then I'll start to worry about end times. I doubt I'll see any of the afore mentioned in my lifetime.

Sounds like a lot of ST. Malarky....

uh actually the 666 thing is in revelations where you add up the numbers of the pope's title, so that would be its origin, not an application.

Well, it's 616 anyway, not 666. Theologists have been debating over this for some time, and I believe some scripture surfaced recently (very, very old scripture) that gives 616 as the mark of the beast.

While I am not religious, I do find the prophecies (especially St. Malachy's) to be pretty interesting. Supposedly after this pope (Ratzinger), a "black" (not referring to his skin color) pope will be elect. This pope will be a servant of the anti-christ.

Whether or not this is all a bunch of bullshit is anyone's guess. I suppose we'll find out eventually though, since popes tend not to last for too long (I believe the average time a pope serves is around 5 years).

First, back in the time of Revelations, the term "pope" was not even used. In Eastern Churches the term is used to designate priests. In the West, it was initially restricted to bishops but around the fourth century became a distinctive title of the Bishop of Rome, i.e., what we know as the pope.

Second, the although many candidates for the name which counts to 666 (given assigning certain numerical values to Hebrew or Greek letters), the most convincing one is actually for Emperor Caesar Nero. Moreover, given (i) that Revelation was authored during the Christian persecutions by the Roman government and (ii) the other images surrounding in the same chapter, it is likely that the 'Second Beast' is the Emperor.

Of course, individuals are free to give this historical evidence whatever weight they want in their own analyses.

Plus, previous posters were correct in identifying this whole thing as Jesuit trickery.

And the Dan Browns of the world identify Opus Dei as the problem. Ha! He's wrong: It's the Jesuits.

I read the entire "Left Behind" series of books, and I'm seeing some startling similiarities between the books and real life. There's supposed to be 7 years of tribulation once the Anti-Christ comes to power, then Jesus returns to kick ass. If it's true that the Mayan calendar ends in 2012...

2012-2005= 7 years. :hmm: