weapon26

I have always been a believer in the supernatural, mainly through first had experience. Some of those weirdest experiences involved the ouija board. I was first introduced to the ouija board in high school. We usually played in large groups an someone was always purposely spelling out names and messages, and there was always more laughter than sreams. Three of us decided we'd try it on our own and take a different approach. We would have 2 people ouija with eyes closed and the 3rd person would jot down the messages. This would keep anyone from deliberately cheating and would make it far more difficult to create messages subconsiously. This was the beginning of some serious ouija sessions with amazing results. I'm not going to go into any these particular sessions because the story I do want to tell happens years later in college and is far more frightening. This is where the my first warning comes in...Be careful reading this at night and by yourself, you may lose sleep. But more seriously, we did not realize what we were dealing with and still don't. We no longer ouija and probably will never again. So here is the story....

It started with my girlfriend (now fiance) and I playing ouija in our college apartment. We used the eyes closed method, and only opened when the slider stopped. We engaged in a conversation almost immediatly with some unseen spirit. The spirit answered with basic "yes" and "no" responses to the typical questions, "Are you male, did you live in this area, etc." After about 15 minutes or so of this we asked it if it wanted us do something or help it (maybe he was sticking around because he was restless about something). The spirit then spelled out perfectly....."Find the x" We didn't know what that meant and couldn't get any better an answer. Maybe the "X" was an intersection or a cross and we still don't know the answer today.

A few weeks later, my friends Luke and Marc joined in. We engaged with a spirit very quickly again, and what was weird was that it appeared to be the same person. Our assumption was confirmed when we just finally asked it and the slider pointed to "yes". So now we tried to get more information about the "X". From here on we witnessed some strange slider action. The slider made very quick and sharp moves and created the following patter, "1...X...2...X...3...X...4...X..." We found this a bit alarming and odd and asked it again for an explantion on what the "x" was. The reply was, "A...X...B...X...C...X...D" Throughout the session we got several of these patterns that were broken up by the letter "X" and the letter "C". This session quickly became creepy with these countdown like replies, so we gave up and decided to try another night.

This next attempt at ouija became our last. We decided to change venues this time and brougt the board to Marc's apartment. We were hoping that might get rid of the obnoxious spirit we have been talking too. Luke bowed out of this session leaving myself, Marc and my girlfriend. Within the first minute of the session, we realized that we were not rid of this spirit. After asking, "Is anyone there?" it immediatly started with, "F...X...G...X...H...X..." When Marc would take a turn on the board with one of us, it often spelled out words like "hate" and "die". The most disturbing message appeared when my girlfriend and I were working the slider. We got a large string of letters with the letter "X" and "C" used quite again. Here was the message, "C..1..X..2..X..S..X..U..C..I..C..X..I..D..X..E..K..X..R..X..I..X..S..T..X..I..N..X..J..X..A..K.." My girlfriend immediatly freaked and jumped back when she realized that it spelled out her name, Kristin and then began to spell my name, Jake. We decided that this was getting too personal and too disturbing to continue, and we immediately packed up the board. However, this would prove to be the least disturbing part of the evening. While we were doing the ouija, Marc would take pictures with his digital camera to see if anything weird appeared on camera. When looking at the pictures, small orbs appeared only when my girlfriend and I worked the bored. We decided to take some additional pictures of all of us individually and standing in the same spot to compare. Marc and I had in few in ours, Brian (the skeptic roomate who came home about this time) had one in his. My fiance almost broke down when she saw hers -- there were about 30 to 40! When looking at the pictures, they look just like dust orbs that some flashes pick up, so I'm not say concretely they were supernatural. It was just odd that in the same spot, there were so damn many in her picture (it made sense though, because she always had like a sixth sense thing going on). After discovering what the camera could pick up, we decided to go to the local cemetary to see what we could find (it was about 11:30/midnight).
Shortly after arriving at the cemetary my girlfriend became very wierd. She was acting like she was 5 or 6. She refused to keep her shoes on and was running all over the place. It was almost like she was drunk, but we hadn't been drinking that night. I would have to call her several times to get her to stop running and stay by my side. She would keep having to stop and touch everything just like a curious child. After about 15 minutes of this, Marc and I decided that something was wrong and that we should leave. On the car ride home, she wasn't much better. She started asking all these questions about Marc's girlfriend's sister who was buried there. Questions like, "Did she have some secret she kept from her parents? Was she not from the same father as her sister?" These were not normal questions, and Marc was getting kind of annoyed and upset, but she kept on asking. Finally we got home and slept it off and everything appeared to be normal in the morning.
I left early for class while my girlfriend was still sleeping. I took with me the sheet of paper that we used to keep track of everything the ouija board said to see if I could find some more messages, or find a pattern (we had almost 2 pages of conversation from that last night). I was in the computer lab with my a friend of mine going over the notes. All of a sudden I noticed another word that we had missed the night before. ***Scroll back up to the message that had both our names spelled out*** We were so quick to recognize our own names, we didn't see what was spelled out before that. The word "suicide" appears. I just about freaked out when I noticed that and so did the hairs on the back of my neck. I immediatly went back to our apartment. When I got there, my girlfriend was still there, she had skipped her morning classes and she was noticable upset. I asked her what was the matter, and I was not ready to hear what she said next. She said she woke up after I left and felt almost like she had a hangover. She could hardly remember anything about the cemetary or what happened after. She said she went into the bathroom to shower and when she opened up the medicine cabinet she looked at all the medications and a voice inside her said, "If you ever want to kill yourself there's more than enough pills here." She couldn't believe what she heard, it was so unlike anything about her personality. She said she immediately dropped to the floor and began sobbing for the next 20 minutes. She was terrified by the whole thing. I arrived home shortly after this. So when she told me this I freaked big time when I realized this all happened to her the same time I found that word in the message.

I know this sounds out there, but our theory is that she experienced some form of possession while at the cemetary. It would be an explanation for the odd behavior and questions. She feels like when she looked at the medicine cabinet, the person that was in her wanted her to kill herself so that they could be together. Way too odd, disturbing, freaky and real. This is why we don't ouija anymore and why she doesn't go on our "ghost hunting" outings either. Everything seems back to normal now, it's about 2 years since that night and the first time I've told the story to anyone but close friends. I hope you enjoyed the story (sorry for the length) and maybe learned something. But, please be careful because no one knows what they are dealing with, and it can get very scary, very easily.

crewsor

And everytime I tried the board, nothing happened. Go figure. Guess the spirits just don't like me.

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Ouija is one of those things that consistently defies my rational explanations. I think, in fact, that it's the least explainable phenomenon I know of. It's not just hypnotic self-suggestion, group hysteria, or even some super-psychic group mind meld. The strangest paranormal accounts I've ever heard--and I've read many allegedly true stories--involve the board. I've read too many of them with common elements--common unexplainable elements--to toss it off as tall tales, misinterpretation, attention-seeking, or delusion.

What's important to remember, though, is that Ouija is not the ancient ritual that urban legend purports it to be. It only dates back about a hundred years and has no substantial links to any other previous type of game, hobby, or entertainment activity, that I've found. There may be religious rituals with similarities, but I haven't researched there. It wouldn't surprise me, though. How else would a man with an IQ of 91 be in the White House?

weapon26

I completely agree with you Jonny. The Ouija is quite fascinating and bizarre at the same time. I really like when people put "rules" to the Ouija. When we were conversing with whatever, and it was doing the countdown through the numbers, my friend told us to immediately stop because counting down through the numbers or letters is how the "spirit" escapes. I didn't see that in the Milton Bradley rules. I don't know where people come up with rules for such an intangible experience. There are no rules, it's all open to interpretation. It was still definately something that I am not interested in exploring again any time soon. We still have the board, but refuse to use. The idea that one particular spirit is stuck on that board or "channel" when we use it frightens me. Especially, when its character or demenour seemed to get more aggressive and almost evil.

hunnychile

There are no rules when you open yourself to the dark side. Spirit possession is real & it happens all the time (Catholics Do Excorcisms - why??) and quite easily to some people. The Ouija Board is just a Welcome Sign...and if you're open to the paranormal; it will take you on a wild and crazy & sometimes deadly ride. I had a Ouija Board as a teen & the slider would move around on it's own sometimes. As I studied this more in depth when I was older and taking various psychology classes in college... I decided to throw it in the trash and shut that portal. A smart move at the time. I never mess with tarot cards either any more. They, too, can become a strange and scary tool when used by innocents. The strong spirits love young, impressionable naive kids. Especially virgins. You are the lambs they love to mess with and take to the altar. Be careful. Stay in the light.

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Draconis

I like Ouija boards. They make great plates in college because if the cheese ever melts off of the tortilla and onto the mystic board, the spirits keep my melty cheesey goodness from sticking to it. Thank you spirits.

Also big shout out to the angels that live inside of my toaster oven and the half demon in my George Foreman grill.

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Amarth

*Must keep eyes open. Stay away from the door. Stay awake. Stay away from the shadow. Must keep eyes open.*

Dang, that's one scary story. I've had some gross ouija experiences from people vividly describing their rotting to death during a leprosy epidemic to telling us about innocent people they killed. But, I have never had someone address me personally or try to mess with my head. *shudder* Good luck man, and keep a cross with you or something please.

weapon26

We may have been young, perhaps even a bit impressionable. But hardly virgins


It's interesting you brought up tarot cards, my girlfriend had a deck around that time, but no longer uses it after the incident. I have my own deck too, and only use it occasionaly.

JustDisGuy

The spirit world is real, though not necessarily does it conform to popular belief. I believe that if you are going to open yourself up to the spirit world, you need to understand clearly what you are doing, and take appropriate steps to protect yourself from negative influences.

I can't tell you what the most appropriate steps are, not least because they may not be the same for you as they are for me. More significantly, I stopped 'hanging out the welcome sign' quite a long time ago and now experience (or at least am aware of) almost no supernatural activity in my life.

While I am a technically minded person, I believe that the mysteries of the universe are simply far too complex and coordinated to have happened by accident. There is a 'higher power', and there are forces at work in our lives that we do not comprehend.

Best not to play with fire.

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WarriorBuddha

Some friends and I used a ouija board in high school every once in a while. I must say we had some pretty interesting experiences. Never as interesting as yours, but interesting nonetheless. I agree with the majority here saying it's not something to be taken lightly. I'm even more open minded to the spirit world now than I was as a teenager. I would be interested to see what my friends here and I could do with one now.

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MikeyChalupa

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tooth

I have no personal experience with Ouija. But I have a rather creepy story that dates back to high school. Some girls in my class had used a Ouija borad over the weekend, just having some fun. None of them were really believers of anything like that. Just screwing around. Well one of the girls asked who would be the first person in our class to die. It made the initials S.D. The girls freaked out, as that was the initials of one of them. Of course, it was easy enough to explain that someone had forced it, or subliminal movements, whatever.

Well a few years after graduation, we lost the first member of our class. Only it was a boy, who happened to have the initials S.D.

bonehed1

[QUOTE=Draconis]I like Ouija boards. They make great plates in college because if the cheese ever melts off of the tortilla and onto the mystic board, the spirits keep my melty cheesey goodness from sticking to it. Thank you spirits.QUOTE]

Hell yeah, now that is what I am talking about...I used the board once in awhile and it just never seemed to work. There would be 4 of us and nothing so I got all pissed off and couldn't get the POS to light on fire so I just used it as a plate myself.

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Dane Bramage

Freaky story... gave me shivers. I can feel that something really did happen to you that night. That was a very powerful experience you had. Yes the spirit world is real, and yes, a lot of them are not very nice. Demons, devils, ghosts, whatever, they can and will affect those that mess in their realms without proper defenses. Don't meddle in things you don't understand.

I sincerely hope that you and your g/f are alright, and that this melevolant spirit has ceased harrassing you. I would get rid of the board at the very least. and cleanse the house with a good smudging. There are things you can do, but they tend to only attract more attention. The best defense, of course, is to not practice.

Good luck to you.

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zen_tom

I used to believe in all this stuff years ago, but it *is* nonsense.

I remember we once contacted the spirit of Popeye the Sailor Man, when we asked him for a message, he said 'Ug Ug Ugsck' We talked to a lot of people that night, including God, Jesus and Satan, oh, and David Ike (who isn't dead yet)

It's only dangerous if you believe in it, which is a shame because people only engage in it if they have some form of belief.

hunnychile

Reply to zen_tom,
So one might surmise that you do not believe that 'evil' exists in this world, esp. if you don't believe in evil. If only that were so....

Not believing doesn't always protect one from evil and that which can cause harm, pain and or death of body, hope, mind, soul or even Ug ug Ugsck, Popeye.

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appleseed

Yikes! If Popeye ever talked to me through a Ouija I would be freaked! He is a malevolent spirit!

Seriously though, a friend and I used to use a Ouiija board when we were about 10 and I moved the pointer thing wherever I wanted to and freaked my friend out. He never noticed it was me moving it and he still talks about how weird it was. I had him believing there were about 6 different ghosts in his house.

weapon26

Actually it came from Kmart of all places. If Ouija Board = Evil and Kmart = Evil and Martha Stewart = Kmart then Evil = Martha Stewart? Coincedence? I think not.
I am amazed by all the complete disbelievers in real life. There is just too much stuff going on that cannot be explained rationally. Personally, I think believing makes for a much more fulfilling and interesting life.

MikeyChalupa

Just because it can't be explained rationally YET doesn't necessarily mean there's anything supernatural going on. If you showed electric lights or an automobile to people in the middle ages, they'd have a hard time explaining them rationally. Yet they're common, everyday things that are well understood by us today. Perhaps in the future, we will understand why Ouija boards seems to send us messages. Perhaps there is some kind of supernatural phenomena causing what you observed. Most likely not. But like belief in God, I'll reserve judgment for now. In other words, I'll concentrate on what to ME is "real life."

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MSD

"she always had like a sixth sense thing going on"

Anything that wants to get at someone will always go for the one most receptive to it. Lucky for her, it didn't stick around and become a full-blown possesion. Ouija boards are one thing I don't fuck around with. Meditating in a cemetary while ghost hunting is enough for me.

Munku

If Ouija boards really did work, then the little cursor thing would move WITHOUT being touched. Why 2 people have to control it is beyond me. Subconsciously you're spelling stuff out, that you don't realize. That way when you do spell it out, you think some crazy thing is happening. And of course you never hear any good stories about these things mainly because folks go into it thinking of evil.

weapon26

I think the reason why people are necessary is because the spirits need a medium to go through. Obviously this is speculation because this is not science, but that makes sense though. It's a lot harder to subconsciously spell out words when your not looking at the board as well. The reason why you never hear good stories is that there not as fun to tell. I've definately had more good experiences with the ouija than bad, it's just that when they're bad - <i>they were frightnening</i>.

zen_tom

You know what, your first statement is not far from the truth. Evil comes in many forms, but spiritual or psychological evil (the occult) only effect those who invest belief. In fact, I'd argue that it's the *belief* itself that is evil - and anyone who perpetuates those beliefs is party to that evil.

Orodinn

This thread rocks. Amazing story. Your story was freakier than most horror films I've seen in a long time...maybe cause I know its based on a true story... Not sure if Im a believer, but its kinda fun to believe spirit do exists. Im a pussy so Ill never try anything like that. Just making sure nothing happens to me.

Phant84

about 2 months ago, my wife and i got a wild hair up our butts and decided to make our own (kmart was closed). not sure if it was going to work or not, we tried it out and have spoke with a couple of different spirits here at the house. the one that we speak with the most (and i shit you not about this, it has come up with other people using the board besides us that had no idea that he, the spirit, was that way.) is a big freakin horn ball. he is always trying to get girls to show skin in exchange for answers, trying to get my wife and i to do kinky things in bed, trying to start threesomes and what not.

it is be far the wierdest spirit i have ever spoken to.

scoobe

I had a very strange experience a very long time ago when at school.
A group of us decided we would have a séance, not with an Ouija board but with a glass and lettered cards.
All was going well, we were asking questions and getting some answers. Each one of us accusing the others of pushing the glass and everyone fervently denying it.
Some bright spark then decided to ask the “spirit” if he was in heaven or in hell. The glass went crazy, moving around the table in circles, gradually getting faster and faster until it actually leapt up off the table. Not across the table and off but actually UP about two inches.
It would be great to know if anyone else has had a similar experience since, too this day I can’t explain how this might have happened.

Baldrick

I'm sorry, I have to side with the skeptics when it comes to Ouija Boards. I am a VERY big believer in the supernatural, but I find it hard to believe that Milton Bradley or Parker Brothers or whomever were able to find and mass market a tool that allows us to talk to the spirits. I do find it great however, that something like a Ouija Board can force us to use our minds in unique and exciting ways!

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bonehed1

I agree with your statement that you find it hard that "THEY" were able to "FIND" a tool to talk to spirits but alot of things made can be used. You can find a stupid doll and dress it up like your friend and practice magic or become a witch doctor and do things to your friend through a doll....I have heard many of these stories from friends who have seen it happen on trips. You would be amazed by what people use. Its like saying a spoon is used for just cereal and nothing else. A spoon can be used for alot more then just cereal if you know what I mean.

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Orodinn

The board is only the medium. It doesnt matter what it is or who made it.

yankeehater

I'd heard that almost never-fail, when you ask a board where it gets it's power, it will say Satan. Has anyone tried that? I've never done it myself, so I'm just going on what other people have told me that have used it.

kurtisj

that is weird, ive never sat down and tried it but my sister and friends have.

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Phant84

they are not the ones that "found" it. they are just the mass marketers that jumped on it and tried making money. oujia boards have been around for a long time, way before parker brothers. it doesnt have to come from parker brothers to work. i sure as hell know my works.
all in all, like people have said, its just the medium. its not going to work if you dont think its going to work. i

zen_tom

Just a point of fact: Ouija boards have NOT been around for a long time - they did come into fashion during the middle of the now widely debunked spiritualist movement (the one where many of the initial players later confessed to trickery and fraud) which began between 200 and 150 years ago.

cocounselor23

Ok guys and gals---my 2 cents. I consdier myself pretty rational and possibly even a skeptic. The way I operate is that there always has to be an explanation for everything. Well...guess what...the Ouija Board (in my opinion) cannot be explained. Here is my experience. I was about 16 years old and I came home one night and my mom was still awake. My parents liked to party when they were younger and I had seen them use this Ouija board with their friends, but I had no idea what it involved, so I started to ask my mom questions about it. Finally, I convinced her to use it with me. Neither of us was touching the pointer when we started asking questions and I could not believe it was actually moving my itself...but it was. I was a pretyy tough young kid and not much frightened me, but this did. We asked it a series of questions and some answeres made sense and some did not. My mom asked the name of the person I was going to marry and it spelled out Penelope...well I am married to Michele...but whatever. We also asked where it came from and the pointer would just go in circles....finally, my mom asked it the following question: "Who does David (that's me) love? and it immediately spelled out SATAN... That was it for me...tears came to my eyes and I was so freaked! I know for a fact that my mom was not touching the pointer and neither was I...that alone was enough to freak me out. The Satan thing was just the clincher. I obviously have no explanation for it. I do believe there are spirits but I do not believe they can possess you just by the use of the Ouija board...but who knows. I have been tempted to use it again, but never have.

hunnychile

If you were an evil spirit from the Other Side, wouldn't you just love scaring the crap out of dumb unsuspecting teenagers? Thought so...

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ShaniFaye

hunnychile I like the way your mind works....I like to think I'd be that kind of spirit

seriously...I've always believed in the "paranormal"...my mother had an experience with a board when she was a teenager that she, to this day, will not talk about...we were never allowed to be anywhere near a board...after I was grown and moved out I came across one at a friends but even at the age of 25 I could hear my mother's voice telling me she'd disown me if she ever found out I'd touched one...so now at 36 I still havent.

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afterhours2k4

I lived in an apartment in Clearwater, Florida with my then girlfriend in 1995. She was by far the sweetest most proper girl that I have ever dated. What happened to her during ouija board sessions made me a believer.

I purchased a board to have in the apartment as a novelty or for entertainment purposes. One night my girlfriend suggested that we give it a try. We had not participated in "contacting the spirit world" before and thought that it would be fun.

Sitting in the middle of my family room floor, I had a smile on my face as the pointer began to swirl around the board. I glanced up at my girlfriend to look her in the eye because I was sure that she was moving the pointer. This spirit that we contacted said his name was "Jay." I found this interesting because I was under the impression that she was creating a story.

To my utter shock, this "spirit" began using very foul language, threatened my well being, and described his sexual wishes in great detail as they related to my girlfriend. The shocking part for me was not thinking that an actual spirit was contacting me via a store bought ouija board, but that my well mannered girlfriend (whom I never even heard say as much as the word damn, hell, ass, etc) could jump out of her shell through this board! I was convinced that she did this as a way of expressing herself and played along.

This happened over the next few nights. The language, threats, and vulgar sex talk was getting increasingly disturbing. I finally asked her to relax a bit when she swore on her life that she wasn't doing anything. She asked me if I could feel the cool spot directly over the board. I reluctantly reached out and to my surprise could feel a temperature drop. That was the last time I used the board.

Unfortunately, it didn't end for her then. I would come home from work to find her sitting in the middle of the floor or on the bed having long conversations with "Jay." It was freaking me out. I could look through the window of my apartment and just see her talking to the board and watching the pointer whip around the board. I thought one of us was going crazy.

I decided to tell her that I had to get rid of the board because I had a problem with her addiction to her new found friend. She reluctantly agreed and I hid the board in a closet.

Now nothing CRAZY SUPERNATURAL happened as far as lights going out, or people getting killed or anything, but that is some of the most freaky stuff that I have ever been a part of. Since then we have been broken up (not because of the board) and she always swore that her contacts were real. I have to say that I do believe her.

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plandogs

Explanation: You guys were so freaked out and absorbed by the fact that a spirit was moving a glass around on ur table that you failed to notice the guy under the table shaking it...untill finally he kicked it hard and the glass jumped up.

Spotila

_Just_ as I read this, the simpsons episode where otto and 'becky' are suppose to get married and they mention martha stewart being evil was on. I think THAT is freaky D:

hunnychile

Hey SPOT,
My Ouji Board came from Kmart and sometimes this big - real BIG- yellow smiley face appears over the board and starts slashing everything in the room!

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