zenmaster10665

By the same logic of the 757 thread, isn't it also possible that the Russian government staged the seige of the Belsan school and the bombing of two Russian airliners last week?

Think about it:
Russia has always pushed for worldwide acceptance of a hardline stance against Chechnya...taking over a school, killing 400+ men, women and children and then blaming it on "Worldwide Terrorism" is a perfect means to an end, right? Add in a 50% Arab mercenary hostage-taking squad and you have an even wider support base in your anti-terror campaign.

It is obvious what they are up to:
Convince the world that Russia is in a fight for its survival against international terrorists, couple that with a claim that the US has a "double-standard" on terrorism and whatcha got?? You've got a green light to go into Chechnya with guns blazing...something you have never had before.

The "proof":

• The Russian government would not give an accurate figure of the number of people within the school, this was a chance for them to gague public opinon on the strike..too many people = civil unrest, too few people = not enough outrage.
• The initial statement that there was no connection to terroism in the downing of two airlines was a similar tactic.
• The pristine condition of a videotape of the hostage-taking means that it must be fabricated. How would a videotape have withstood the explosions in the school?

So, if the US government is able to set up a catastrophic event in order to wage war on lil' ole' Iraq, why shouldn't Russia be let in on the fun?

Heck, maybe the US government is even working in cohoots with the Russian goverment...like a terror consultant? Russia must have spotted the fact that the US set up the 9-11 attacks and decided that they wanted a piece of the action too...Right? Right?

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aarchaon

How about no? I don't think that the Russian government would care so much about how the rest of the world thinks about the whole Chechnya situation that killing hundreds of children would be justifiable. Putin has always been pretty hard on the Chechnyans; I don’t see why he would suddenly need to galvanize his people against terrorists. Now for your proof:

It would be difficult, if not impossible to figure out how many people are inside the school grounds for a few reasons. 1: The number of parents, grandparent etc on a given day would be variable. 2: The terrorists would have blocked most ways of seeing into the building.

There probably wasn't any connection between the downed planes and terrorism. Maybe the Russian government isn't out to scare their people into submission?

The condition of the footage doesn't mean a great deal. If it was recorded into a digital format then either it will work or it won't. If it was recorded onto tape, then maybe it was just “lucky” (if you can even use that word in this thread) and it wasn’t in harms way when the bombs exploded.

It is hard to fathom what the terrorists were thinking when they decided to blow up a school. Killing children would hardly endear their plight to the Russian people.

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slimpi66y

my buddy Vlad doesn't give a dan about how the world thinks he should ran his country,

and whoever pull the holdup, whatever their cause is, it's pure evil

MSD

The Russian government has never been good about giving out accurte numbers and statistics.

zenmaster10665

More proof.

C'mon, it's obvious, right? Russia is "pulling a states" on this one.

I am really starting to believe maybe the US government was involved in the Chechnya hostage-taking. Heck, maybe the UK too??

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Sargeman

I was thinking about this yesterday and wondered why no oned had thrown that conspiracy theory out there.

Glad you read my mind.

Next thing is France will prohibit Muslim girls from wearing those things covering up their heads and some Muslim extremist will be taking hostages and threatening to kill them unless France does away with that, then the truth will come out about it being the US and its allies......

It all makes sense now.

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asudevil83

NO....as far as i'm concerned this was a true act of terrorism. it was just TOO INHUMANE to be anything else. how could the Russian government permit the torture of children, and leave hundreds of children and parents completely traumatized in the name of convincing a few countries to hate Chechnya.

i would be much more inclined to concider this situation if someone just went ahead and blew up the entire school, or an office complex, leaving no one to survive....without taking hostages. this was just an act of PURE TERRORISM, too horrible to be allowed by any government.

just IMAGINE for a second if some highschool or grade school in the US was "taken over by muslime terrorists", killing half the students, teachers, and faculty. then imagine it being found out that it was all set up by Bush and the US government to further fuel the war on terror. insanity, roits, pure upheaval would insue....nothing that any country would risk having to deal with. the government itself would become the terrorists, and you would see a revolt no doubt. we would never risk the support and sanity from our own 300,000,000+ millions for the support of a few of our allies.

until i see some sort of proof that can be taken as fact and used to raise doubt in my eyes, then i will have to say bullshit on this.

Stare At The Sun

I in short, believe it is very possible. This sort of "worldwide" support for terrorism would benefit the leaders of both countries, and allow them to impose more civil liberty reductions on us.

I think its possible, yes.

Rdr4evr

I think I misunderstood.......you actually think the govt. would not have the heart to kill innocent people? Bush IS responsible for bombing schools and killing children..did you forget the current war in Iraq?


You were being sarcastic, right?

The Phenomenon

I have to agree with you.

Is it what is going on here? I don't know. Is it possible? Hell yes.

68galaxy

You wouldn't believe these conspiracy theories if you understood the nature of radical islam. Just keep on believing that there is a just cause behind it. Russia didn't ask for it, and Putin certainly understands the danger. More power to him, I hope he hunts the radical islamists to the ends of the earth.