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Old 06-19-2004, 07:22 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Do you believe?

What paranormal phenomenon do you believe in?

IE: ESP, ghosts, clairvoyance etc.

Do you keep an open mind while also holding onto a healthy dose of skepticism?

Have you ever had a strange experience that changed your mind about something paranormal?
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Old 06-19-2004, 08:29 AM   #2 (permalink)
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I 100% believe in ghosts and UFOs and aliens. I say only those three things because they are the only paranormal things I really know enough about to make an accessment. I have an open mind about everything paranormal though, and if there is any bit of evidence to support it, I'd definitly consider it.

I've seen what i'm 99% sure was a UFO. It looked exactly like what has been reported by other people and confirmed as an "official" UFO. That experience reinforced my view on UFOs and aliens. I believe aliens visit here often, I believe they live nearby, and I believe the government knows much, much more about Aliens than we think.

I also believe there is something more to a lot of "coincidences." For example, it is unbeleivable how many times i'll be typing something and listening to the TV at the same time, and all of a sudden the TV says the same word or phrase that I'm typing. Weird and uncommon words at that. It may not seem like much, but it happens to me extremely often. Lots of other coincidences too. Too many and too strange of circumstances to be purely chance.

I'm also really into the study of dreams. Lucid dreaming especially. Dreams are an amazing thing. It's literally like an entire nother world. I want to learn to explore and master that world.
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Old 06-20-2004, 09:08 AM   #3 (permalink)
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ESP, Ghost, Clairvoyance, etc.

Ghost/Spirits -- Yeah I always see 'em in glances and I can feel'em.
Beyond that I'm quite empathic in terms of spirits. So then
Empathy - One of my abilities.. which falls into
ESP - which then if I follow this then I would also follow
Clairvoyance!

See how it all just links together?

Aliens? In american we consider Mexicans to be aliens (illegal aliens). I know thats not what you meant... we live in a small area and anything that is alive and not from what we call home is an alien. Organisms can live in any environment we have here on earth, from the hottest to the coldest.... I'm sure they exist elsewhere. That alone would be an alien lifefrom... How big they've gotton is undetermined.. but I"m sure they still exist.

UFO's? Well in the sense that we don't know what it is? Yeah.. I could throw a frisbee with neon lights on it and its bound to be a U.F.O. to somebody. But then again thats not what you meant. You mean the urban UFO termonology meaning alien craft. Last year I saw something in the sky that was shrouded by clouds but....
It was a HUGE oval shape, bright Fire Orange, and moving lots faster than I was driving, in the sky and moving horizontal to the ground. Way too large for a ball of lightning, and if it were an astroid in the space and burnt out when it hit the atmosphere. Well it was so huge that I would have heard about a major meteor hit in the paper the next day.. and I did not. I cannot think of any other explanation. I've also seen something VERY mettalic in the sky once when I was drving home from class one day. It wasn't the sun, and it wasn't the moon (they were both out already... it was a summer's evening). It wasn't a blimp or plane as it wasn't really moving. No weather balloons as they don't release them in this area.

Still.. it COULD be a Weather Balloon.. aside from a UFO.. it was a weather balloon, those are the only two explanations I can think of.

Telekinesis isn't really in this category though, as its more X-Meny ... Though I still wish I had it as it'd make work a hell of a lot more easy and fun.
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Old 06-21-2004, 05:15 PM   #4 (permalink)
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I'm a paranormal agnostic. Two things that make me wonder, but i'm not exactly a convert or anything...

- around 1993 I and some friends saw a UFO, in the sense of "unidentified flying object" not in the sense of "flying saucer". Just an absolutely flawless white ring motionless in the sky. could have been a cloud except it was so perfect and I watched it for almost an hour (southern alberta, you can watch stuff in the sky for a loooong time) and it didn't move or change like a cloud would.

- streetlights are always shutting off when I walk under them. this is a phenomenon that a lot of people experience. I suppose there could be some scientific explanation for this, though not a convincing one that I've read to date.
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Old 06-21-2004, 10:35 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Old 06-22-2004, 12:59 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Old 06-22-2004, 08:01 PM   #7 (permalink)
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I haven't experienced anything that would lead me to believe in ghosts or paranormal activity. I do think it's possible that is may be there.... but I'm kind of afraid of the dark like many people.

I figure when I experience something, I'll know it's true.
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Old 06-22-2004, 08:56 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Old 06-23-2004, 10:44 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Old 07-13-2004, 08:28 AM   #10 (permalink)
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I personally believe in aliens, although I have serious doubts as to whether or not they have actually been to earth.

I suppose the only 'paranormal' thing that I believe in is telekinesis. My beliefs are based on This Scientific Study mentioned in the article

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Stanislawa Tomczyk. Born in Poland, Tomczyk came to the attention of investigators when it was reported that startling poltergeist-like activity occurred spontaneously around her. She could control some telekinetic feats, but only under hypnosis. In this hypnotic state, Tomczyk took on a personality that called itself "Little Stasia" who could levitate small objects when Tomczyk placed her hands on either side of them. In the early 1900s, one investigator, Julien Ochorowicz, watched these levitations at very close range and observed something like fine threads emanating from her palms and fingers, although they were examined carefully before the experiment. And it didn't seem to be a trick. "When the medium separates her hands," Ochorowicz observed, "the thread gets thinner and disappears; it gives the same sensation as a spider's web. If it is cut with scissors, its continuity is immediately restored." In 1910, Tomczyk was tested by a group of scientists at the Physical Laboratory in Warsaw where she produced remarkable physical phenomena under strict test conditions.
I saw an old, old video of this and she was moving non-magnetic objects under a clear, presumably non-magnetic barrier. It was done in the strictest of environments, and still continues to amaze me.
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Old 07-13-2004, 10:41 AM   #11 (permalink)
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While I have never experienced some of the things people around here are talking about myself, I am not so close-minded to think that things like these never happen or aren't real.

I think it would be interesting to investigate some of the occurences like wrkime and GakFace have been part of, or hang out with them and see if anything happens.

Out of curiousity, I looked up telekinesis one day and found several sites giving detailed instructions on how to do things like that yourself. I never tried the stuff they say because it looks like it would take a lot of time to condition and work toward being able to do what seems like very little useful stuff.

http://www.crystalinks.com/telekinesis.html

Also, from what I was reading it just felt a lot like dabbling in the tele-anything was very similar to dabbling in the spiritual world, usually on the darker / possibly demonic side of the line. I'm not sure that it sounded like it would be worth it.

I'm not quite ready to sell my soul just to be able to bend a couple spoons, ya know?
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Old 07-13-2004, 10:56 AM   #12 (permalink)
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I generally do not believe in the paranormal, but I've never experienced anything in that realm, either.
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Old 07-16-2004, 12:12 AM   #13 (permalink)
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Old 07-16-2004, 08:04 AM   #14 (permalink)
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I am skeptic myself. I have gone out of the way to find ghosts etc without much luck. During my readings I came on something that could explain this. Others around me had all these experiences till I went to the site and then nothing. Factor in how I don’t dream and actually repressed my wife’s dreams when we sleep in the same bed. When I am out of town she says she dreams normally. The one possible explanation I have found would be if I was a nega psychic. They can actually repress all activity just by being in an area. Something that had its good and bad points when several of my friends had me along ghost hunting.
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Old 07-16-2004, 12:43 PM   #15 (permalink)
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That's pretty interesting- 'nega-psychic'. I'll have to remember that word :-)
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Old 07-16-2004, 01:08 PM   #16 (permalink)
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I don't "believe" in anything.
I don't think "beliefs" are necessary in this world.
I don't understand everything that happens and don't feel a need to. I figure if something happens, it's "natural" and "normal."

I take things as they present themselves.
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Old 07-16-2004, 03:03 PM   #17 (permalink)
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I'll put all those above in a "maybe" box. Until I experience them personally, I'll believe in it, otherwise no, hearsays are dismissed. One thing annoys me though, is how people keep on using hearsays as "backup" for their beliefs in ghost. "My friend told me, some one said...I heard that...etc etc"
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Old 07-18-2004, 08:34 PM   #18 (permalink)
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I think that ghosts are probably out there, but exist in chance changes in weather and slight temperature changes that may cause some floorboard to creak in a footstep manner. So there is a resonable explanation for "ghosts", its just that these explanations aren't proof that ghosts don't exists; rather, I think freak slight changes in air temperature that causes floorboard creaking or things to show up in pictures that aren't supposed to be there (ie lens flare) is how ghosts show themselves in this world.

I also believe dreams can predict the future. It's happened to me before, and its freaky!
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Old 07-19-2004, 04:20 AM   #19 (permalink)
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Old 07-23-2004, 09:29 AM   #20 (permalink)
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I believe that all things are possible. Nothing in this world should be ruled out as impossible. When you do that you close your mind to many mysterious things that you could very easily overlooked. Kind of like what Art said. Just because something may be labeled as extraordinary or supernatural does not mean that it is. Perhaps it just is a phenomena that we have not been able to scientifically classify.
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Old 07-23-2004, 08:28 PM   #21 (permalink)
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I don't really believe in any of those things. Especially aliens, as I have a friend who claimed to have had aliens walking in his room 5 times.

Upon further investigation I found that what he described was basically incubus. The aliens were simply the most realistic form of dream. You'll notice that in almost every case of abduction the victim is pinned down and unable to move.

Oh, and in case your wondering, incubus is a state of mind named after the demon that it was blamed on by Christians. Basically you feel that you are trapped in your body. It almost always results in a horrifying episode. My friend described that he was frozen in fear at the sight of the completely dead eyes of the alien. This almost certainly has an underlying meaning, but I'm don't really know enough about the area to say.
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Old 08-08-2004, 01:22 PM   #22 (permalink)
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Old 08-12-2004, 03:09 AM   #23 (permalink)
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I BE LAEVE IN A LOT OF THING'S I CANT REMEMBER IF IT WAS THIS BORED OR THE OLD ONE. BUT I SHARED A LITTLE ABOUT THE HOUSE I GREW UP IN. IT WAS HAUNTED LIKE A MO FO! NUTHIN REALY BAD HAPPIND TO ANY OF US STUF DISAPEARD THE DOUBLE SIDED DEAD BOLT WOOD LOCK YOU OUT THE HOUSE YOU COULD SEE SHADOW'S WALKIN ON THE WALL WHEN NO ONE WAS THER, EVERY NIGHT AT 10:PM THE KITCHIN SILVERWEAR DROOR FLEW OPEN AND CLOSED, YOU COULD HERE PEOPLE TALKIN, AND WALKIN AROUND. I REMEMBER 1 TIME IN HIGH SCHOOL ME AND MY FRIEND WHERE IN MY ROOM IN THE BASEMENT AND WE HERD SOME ONE WALKIN MY HOUS, AND STARTED WALKIN THROUGH IT AND TALKIN. WE WENT UP STAIRS AND NO ONE WAS THERE SO WE WENT BACK DOWN STAIRS FOOT STEP'S AND TALKIN AGAIN!SO THIS TIME WE GRABED B BALL BATS AND WENT THROUGH EVOREY ROOM AND CLOSET IN THE HOUSE NUTHIN. AFTER THAT HE SAY'S "I AM NOT GUNNA CRASH OVER HERE EVER" !BUT THE WIERDIST PART WAS THER WAS A CLOSIT IN MY MOTHERS ROOM THAT ALWAY'S HAD AN ICE COLD BREEZ BLOWIN OUT OF IT. IN THE SUMMER IT COULD B ROASTIN AND YOU COULD OPEN THAT DOOR AND BAM COLD AIR. FINALEY AFTER A WHILE IN THE SUMMER I SAID SCREW IT AND LEFT THE DOOR OPEN SO IT WOULD COOL DOWN THE ROOM BUT AFTER A WHILE IT WOULD CREEP ME OUT SO I WOULD CLOSE IT!

O YAH AND WHEN MY FATHER WAS AKID HIS FRIEND'S FATHER BLEW OF HIS MOTHER'S HEAD WITH A SHOT GUN WHEN SHE WAS WASHING THE DISH'S ONE NIGHT WHEN HE WAS DRUNK I ALWAY'S KINDE OF WONDERD IF THAT WAS Y THW DRAWR ALWAY'S OPEND AT 10:00
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Old 08-12-2004, 04:07 AM   #24 (permalink)
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i feel the presence of spirits alot. i never see them directly face to face but out of the corner of my eye. i see movement. if you live with animals you know they are very receptive to spirits.

when i still lived with my parents every day around 2 p.m. i would get a taste of some food in my mouth and it always ended up being what we were having for dinner.

the women in my family are very pyschic (?). i was in a car accident once. at the time my sister was in south america riding on a bus. at the exact moment she knew it had happened.
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Old 08-13-2004, 12:16 PM   #25 (permalink)
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I believe that the human mind is a powerful thing, and if someone wants to believe something enough, to them, it will happen: ghosts, esp, faith/god, witchcraft, spells, satanism, ouija, etc.. I personally don't believe in any of these things. I don't completely discredit the fact that they MIGHT exist, but they really do seem like trivial figments of the human mind.

However, one night I was staring out of the door leading out to my deck around 1 or 2 AM and noticed a faint glowing object hovering in the sky. As I squinted my eyes to try and see what it was, I noticed the light getting stronger.. then dimmer.. then stronger. I thought to myself, "Holy SHIT, what is that?!?" 20 minutes later, I went back, same glow, everything.

...until I realized I left my laptop open and unplugged on the floor, and the glass of my dining room table was reflecting the light at such an angle onto the glass of the sliding door leading out to my deck that it appeared to be some kind of object in the sky. The entire time I was gawking at a f'n laptop LED. That's my only encounter with UFOs or anything paranormal.
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Old 08-17-2004, 04:19 AM   #26 (permalink)
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I saw something once when I was younger, call it a UFO, cuz I sure don't know what the hell it was!! Flashing lites, hovering and then gone in a flash.

I also beleive there are creatures that have not been scientifically identified yet, such as Bigfoot type things
 
Old 08-18-2004, 06:18 PM   #27 (permalink)
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My personal "religious" beliefs would first require me to state:

Supernatural and paranormal are both rather odd concepts. Anything that is organic must inherently be natural. Therefore aliens, sasquatch and sea creatures would be natural, no more no less (if they exist). Ghosts, which can, supposedly, have a plasmic presence in our reality, would also consitute an inherent organic nature, and would therefore also be natural. Psychic powers, be it telekenesis, pyrokenesis, clairvoyance or any other is generated from the human essence, be it spiritual, physical or other, and therefore is also strictly natural.

Aside from my little soapbox about that, I'd have to say that I have an 80/20 mindset. I'm about 80% believeing in nearly all "unusual" phenomenon. I reserve about a 20% disbelief factor simply because I hate being 100% wrong.
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Old 08-19-2004, 01:52 PM   #28 (permalink)
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Being a newcomer to this forum, I found this thread quite interesting. Each of you has his or her own beliefs, and that is what made me decide to make this post my first.


I was pregnant with my second child in the summer of 1985. My daughter had just turned 3. One day, I was standing at the sink washing up the lunch dishes, when I heard my daughter giggling in her room. I just listened and grinned at the sound of a child's laughter. This went on for about 15 minutes. I called to her, and asked her what she was doing. She didn't answer me. Once again I called out to her, and I heard her say, "Bye, come see me again", and I heard her smack her lips as if she were giving a kiss.
When she came into the kitchen, I asked her who she had been talking to. She looked at me and said, "I was talking to MawMaw, her gave me a kiss because her had to go back to heaven". There was a faint pink glow of lipstick on my daughter's right cheek. I was floored. My mother had passed away in 1980 from cancer. My daughter had no idea who "MawMaw" was at that point in her life. As I continued to question my daughter, she described to me the dress that my mother had been buried in, and then took me to her room and said, "Smell that? That's MawMaw's perfume." Sure enough, there was the odor of the Shalimar that my mother always wore. I didn't have any in the house, but that familiar odor was there.

Scared?? A little at first, but then I realized that my mother was still around; she was able to see the grandchildren that she had never gotten to see, and to me that was a very comforting and warm feeling.

My mother has visited my niece on several occasions too, and as always, that familiar scent of Shalimar lingers even when we don't know she's there.
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Old 08-19-2004, 02:03 PM   #29 (permalink)
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Old 08-20-2004, 02:57 PM   #30 (permalink)
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Being a newcomer to this forum, I found this thread quite interesting. Each of you has his or her own beliefs, and that is what made me decide to make this post my first.


I was pregnant with my second child in the summer of 1985. My daughter had just turned 3. One day, I was standing at the sink washing up the lunch dishes, when I heard my daughter giggling in her room. I just listened and grinned at the sound of a child's laughter. This went on for about 15 minutes. I called to her, and asked her what she was doing. She didn't answer me. Once again I called out to her, and I heard her say, "Bye, come see me again", and I heard her smack her lips as if she were giving a kiss.
When she came into the kitchen, I asked her who she had been talking to. She looked at me and said, "I was talking to MawMaw, her gave me a kiss because her had to go back to heaven". There was a faint pink glow of lipstick on my daughter's right cheek. I was floored. My mother had passed away in 1980 from cancer. My daughter had no idea who "MawMaw" was at that point in her life. As I continued to question my daughter, she described to me the dress that my mother had been buried in, and then took me to her room and said, "Smell that? That's MawMaw's perfume." Sure enough, there was the odor of the Shalimar that my mother always wore. I didn't have any in the house, but that familiar odor was there.

Scared?? A little at first, but then I realized that my mother was still around; she was able to see the grandchildren that she had never gotten to see, and to me that was a very comforting and warm feeling.

My mother has visited my niece on several occasions too, and as always, that familiar scent of Shalimar lingers even when we don't know she's there.
Excellent story.Definately had a shiver or two.
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Old 08-21-2004, 07:31 PM   #31 (permalink)
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Old 08-21-2004, 08:06 PM   #32 (permalink)
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Old 08-22-2004, 09:06 PM   #33 (permalink)
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I saw an old, old video of this and she was moving non-magnetic objects under a clear, presumably non-magnetic barrier. It was done in the strictest of environments, and still continues to amaze me.

This is a true phenom as I myself have participated in an experiment with strict supervision and controls in place. Several of us kids were taken into a room that had aq large marble top table in it with a chair to sit in. we were then instructed to try to make a small metal ball placed in the center of the table roll in the direction we were given. those of us that did this well during the weekdays earned the oppertunity to watch movies and drink sodas, before we were loaded on the bus and taken back to each of our schools. This was during my grammar shool years in the early 70's. They also changed the ball from differant types of materials to find the most conductive one as they told us. We even had card reading each tuesday where we would read a card and the kid in the next room had to guess the card you were seeing. I know this sounds weird and I probably sound like a nutcase but recently the truth of these experiments has come to light with the discovery of Project chatter. I was one of the project kids that learned to read via subliminals and blipbird flash machines. Has anyone else in here ever been taught to read this way? I have been trying to find my classmates from this place for over 25 years. East Texas around Lufkin in Angelina County during the 1968 - 1974 years. Some of us were there for a short time while some of us were there for a long time. each day we were picked up from school at 10am and were brought back at 2pm and My parents dont remember me being in a reading clinic as we were told. anything? any help or suggestions would be wonderful.

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Old 08-22-2004, 09:27 PM   #34 (permalink)
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I donot believe in ghosts I believe in leftover energy. I am also empathic ( can detect energy someone is sending out ) the rest You must decide on your own. If you believe then it is true, if not then not.
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Old 08-26-2004, 01:26 PM   #35 (permalink)
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I don't believe in ghosts or spirits. I don't believe in any paranormal activity whatsoever. I think anything that's really weird can be explained by something weird on Earth. I basically look at it this way: if anyone ever finds proof of ghosts (and no one has) then every single science book, every single scientific theory and thousands upon thousands of years of research are completely useless. If ghosts are real...then what are they. If they are real, why hasn't anyone found GOOD pictures of them? Why can no one replicate ghost sightings? Why can they not be seen on video? Why do people say they saw a ghost, but no one else saw it?

Ghosts being real is proof that humans are wrong about a large majority of science. A "spirit" or "ghost" being real is just incredibly absurd if ya ask me.

Aliens? I actually believe in aliens. It's hard not to after taking astronomy classes in college. I'm not sure I believe in abductions or even aliens being/have been on Earth, but I believe they are out there. Oh, and I'm a Christian.

I've came to the conclusion that I WANT ghosts to come after me. I WANT them to follow me. I WANT ghosts to throw shit at me. Why? Because I'll know that I'll be one of the most famous people on Earth for proving thousands of scientific theories wrong.

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Excellent story.Definately had a shiver or two.
yes the shiver just kept coming!
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Old 09-16-2004, 08:29 PM   #38 (permalink)
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I don't believe in anything "paranormal". Simply because I haven't encountered anything in my life that falls into that catagory. I haven't seen a ghost, or a ufo, or any other otherworldly thing. I try to keep an open mind, and I refuse to disbelieve in "impossible" things, but I also think that we (all people) are of limted perception and intelligence; therefore we create connections and theorys without reasonable basis. And just to be an equal opportunity offeneder I believe this applies to religions as much as myths. I believe the world is simpler than we would like it to be to maintain our self-delusions.
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Old 09-17-2004, 01:13 PM   #39 (permalink)
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Hmmm, "believe"

In the sense of "do I have faith in anything without concrete proof", the answer is no.

Show me a "paranormal" phenomenon and I'll find a rational explanation.

I do not "believe" in science or the laws of physics as these are not matters of belief, but rather of experimentation, examination and study.
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Old 09-22-2004, 08:15 AM   #40 (permalink)
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(In response to ARTelevision)...Well I BELEIVE you have a boring life!
A couple of people have posted (here and elsewhere) how they believe in the supernatural, or are religious, or whatever, not because it makes sense, or because they have strong feelings, or anything like that - but rather, seem to think that having delusions of some kind actually enriches life somehow.

Why is this?

To me, resorting to belief shows lack of imagination, a willingness to accept anything one is told, and is symptomatic of a general lack of understanding. If someone believes in Pixies or whatever, it doesn't make them kookie or interesting - it's more indicative of some deep-rooted low self esteem.

Real life, as it is experienced by real people is more rich, beautiful and exciting than any religious, ghost story or super power could ever be. Yes there are things that occur less often than others, and chance really does look like intervention sometimes, but the point I'm making is that allowing yourself to be carried away in a happy delusion does not enrich your life, but detracts from it, makes it less vital, less real, and in the long run makes life less interesting, not more so.
 
 


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