Ok ... so I see things... *sometimes* - Tilted Forum Project Discussion Community

tritium · 01-12-2004, 01:00 AM

But this: http://helpforsensitives.com/

Just freaked me the hell out.

It happens all the time, out of the corner of my eye, I'll see something and only as it moves and when I turn my gaze, it will be gone. I always look at things that move, and I always have. I also have incredible side vision, so I see *everything* that moves outside of my focused sight.

I'm not crazy or anything and this isn't something that happens everyday or even on some predictable schedule. Sometimes, I'll be sitting and watching TV or playing computer games and then ... BAM, I have to look to one side.

They're are usually small ... like rats or midgets or something. I'm not making jokes -- they are usually small and undefined but I've never actually seem one, you know?

Its always when nothing else could possibly have caused my peripheral vision to show a movement too. Thats what bugs me out.

Anyone else out there that shares in this with me?

And I've always had this really bizarre memory of birth. Its like, I remember arriving or something.

MSD · 01-12-2004, 06:32 AM

I see stuff in my peripheral vision. Same as you do, no explanation, no visible cause. Can't say the same about being born, though.

My only theory on why this happens is that peripheral vision may be procesed partly in the subconscious, and the fact that it's given less priority by the brain means that your mind won't fliter out what may be there, but your mind normally protects you from.

lordjeebus · 01-12-2004, 09:57 AM

I see things in my peripheral vision sometimes too. Here's my theory.

Your brain gets a lot more visual information from the center then from the edges of your field of vision. In order to piece together what is going on, your vision-processing units in your brain seek to recognize patterns, and those patterns are recognized as objects. Along the edges, where there's less information, there's a higher chance of misinterpreting random data in a small area as a moving unit, and hence, an object.

People have specific processing areas for recognizing motion of biological origin based on very little information so it could be those that are being triggered. For instance, if someone puts a few LEDs on their body and limbs in the dark it is obvious to an observer that they are walking/jumping/whatever, despite the low amount of incoming data, because the processing areas are so sensitive.

tritium · 01-13-2004, 07:40 AM

Good. Then I'm not completely nuts then...

tristar1 · 01-13-2004, 07:59 AM

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Originally posted by lordjeebus
I see things in my peripheral vision sometimes too. Here's my theory.

Your brain gets a lot more visual information from the center then from the edges of your field of vision. In order to piece together what is going on, your vision-processing units in your brain seek to recognize patterns, and those patterns are recognized as objects. Along the edges, where there's less information, there's a higher chance of misinterpreting random data in a small area as a moving unit, and hence, an object.

People have specific processing areas for recognizing motion of biological origin based on very little information so it could be those that are being triggered. For instance, if someone puts a few LEDs on their body and limbs in the dark it is obvious to an observer that they are walking/jumping/whatever, despite the low amount of incoming data, because the processing areas are so sensitive.

Really good ideas....thanks.

actionoreos · 01-13-2004, 10:03 AM

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Originally posted by lordjeebus
I see things in my peripheral vision sometimes too. Here's my theory.

Your brain gets a lot more visual information from the center then from the edges of your field of vision. In order to piece together what is going on, your vision-processing units in your brain seek to recognize patterns, and those patterns are recognized as objects. Along the edges, where there's less information, there's a higher chance of misinterpreting random data in a small area as a moving unit, and hence, an object.

People have specific processing areas for recognizing motion of biological origin based on very little information so it could be those that are being triggered. For instance, if someone puts a few LEDs on their body and limbs in the dark it is obvious to an observer that they are walking/jumping/whatever, despite the low amount of incoming data, because the processing areas are so sensitive.

That's a really good theory. Good job =)

sadistikdreams · 01-14-2004, 04:38 PM

hehehe. Nice pixel dolls on that site...

As for sensitivity... i've heard that cats hear and sense more than humans... in the supernatural aspect.

Wulf_Hunter · 01-14-2004, 05:51 PM

This is comforting, I've seen things also. Altough it never really scared me.

Nice to know we're not alone.

GakFace · 01-15-2004, 12:19 AM

MSD... Think about the way eyes work. There are things both for high light and low light in our eyes. Our periphreal works better in lower light. A simple example of this is a very dim star in the night sky. You could stare for hours and you'll never see it, but the second you swith to periphreal vision.. you'll see ito out of the corner of your eye... as soon as you see it, you'll focus on it, now to see nothing.

Well, I think its kinda of like that. I think its harder to SEE energy when its really bright out. If thats the case, this would explain why lots of us only see them through that part of our eyes. This doesn't cover everyone, but again this is using our spiritual sense... slightly off than normal physical senses. ....... Something like that. Rough Idea, but doable.

As for me? Yeah thats how I mainly see too. I've had a few rare occasions where I saw them infront of me (eyes focused) but thats few and far between. I've seen many things with periphreal vision.. sometimes I can make them out... other times its just a spirit walking by.

bonehed1 · 01-15-2004, 03:36 PM

MrSelfDestruct has a good theory. I always see things in the corner. I think its just your imagination getting the best of you.

tritium · 01-15-2004, 06:12 PM

They seem awfully fluid when they move out of sight for it to be a set of misfiring neurons.

lordjeebus · 01-15-2004, 07:37 PM

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Originally posted by tritium
They seem awfully fluid when they move out of sight for it to be a set of misfiring neurons.

It'd take a surprisingly small number of misfiring neurons (perhaps even one) to create the perception of fluidity. Nonfluid motion would perhaps be harder to explain.

TerresqueÜ · 01-17-2004, 09:18 AM

Here's something from a few supernaturalists theory book. A lot of ghosts and paranormal beings don't like being seen and will often been seen out of the corner of your eyes or you'll sense something behind you and turn to see nothing. It's a common thing for an experienced ghost hunter to jump and turn around real fast to see if there is anything behind him/her or to his peripherals. Ghosts are generally very elusive and are just wandering around thier old stomping grounds, your house, a prison, a hotel, anything, and just don't want to be seen.

flutter_girl · 01-18-2004, 03:42 AM

i see things quite a bit... and in one week i had a few strange things happening to me. i was at a friends place, and it felt like someone was playing with my hair... but there was no one behind me... so i put it down to the air con blowing on me... then i found out that it wasnt on... then one night at home, i looked upstairs to where my dad was using the computer and i could have sworn someone stood up from behind him and ran into the lounge room, and he ran like my dad does... slouching forward coz of a bad back... and then towards the later half of the week, my brother was in a pretty big accident... that he could have died it, but the thing is i had a dream about it the night before it happened, just the basics, and my mum saying 'hes alright, everyone is alright, but the truck is gone'. when i found out about the accident, i thought nothing of the dream, til my mum said those exact words... and then the next day i was sitting in the lounge room and i felt someone touch my arm... tho no one was there. now normally if one of those things happened, i would think that i was imagining it, but all that happened in one week. stuff like seeing thins out of the corner of my eye and feeling that there is someone behind me happens every now and then, especially when im by myself, but not all in one week. i suppose i could be going crazy, but stuff like this used to happen heaps when i was little... so what do you reckon, over active imagination?

GakFace · 01-19-2004, 06:00 AM

TerresqueÜ: Yeah, thats how a lot of them get their pictures.. They'll turn around immediatly and they'll turn their camera even faster.. and snap a pic.

flutter_girl: Neat stories. I don't ever feel things playing with my hair, that'd be kinda cool. I'd just lay back and let them.

I occasion feel things on me, but I never really put much thought into them. I've seen one pass my doorway quite frequently. My door has been shut for a long time now, but not for that reason. But it happened enough to not be an overactive imagination answer. I haven't seen them much lately, but I also thing any spirits that used to be in this house have now left. I just don't see them anymore, and even more importantly I don't feel them anymore. If they're still here, they're trying awfully hard to avoid my senses. I liked saying Hi to them.

bonehed1 · 01-19-2004, 09:55 AM

I see red spots every frikin time I close my eyes....its quite weird

flutter_girl · 01-19-2004, 07:45 PM

hmm... i spose it wouldnt be overactive imagination then... after all... i couldnt have made up what i saw when i was little... anyone here ever talk to their dead pa frequently when they were kids? or see dead people? hehe, shit, i sound like that kid on the sixth sense... red spots? been looking at the light too long???

Dano069 · 01-21-2004, 07:12 AM

I've seen stuff in my peripheral vision too. I think it's quite common. I've also picked up scents that I connect with either my mom or dad, who are both deceased. I think they like to check up on me from time to time. But, that's just me.

As for animals sensing more about the world around us, I believe that too. Our dog, for about a week, would bark like crazy at the ceiling fan in the family room. It wasn't on and he'd never done that before. He would look up there from time to time like he was looking at/for something. My wife and I figure it was one of our dead relatives checking up on how things were going in our family. Weird, but not scary weird. After the week was up, no more barking at the fan, even if it was on.

forgotten_dream · 01-22-2004, 01:03 AM

Fairies. They're all over the place and the love to fuck with your head. Peripheral vision or no, when you start hearing your name being called when nobody else is around then you start to think twice about that stuff you see out of the corner of your eye. o_O

MrFailure · 02-06-2004, 03:59 AM

I have the same problem. It really scares me some times.

RaDiAn · 02-06-2004, 08:52 PM

I see a shadow of a cat walking and or running in the house from my peripheral vision from time to time , and the weird part is my wife has seen it too.

The other weird thing that happened, was during a LAN party. My buddy and I had been playing, and my buddy said someone just called you in the other room and just at that moment I was getting up to answer who ever just called me. I went in the other room to see who was calling me and nobody was there. My wife was watching TV and my sister was sleeping on the sofa. My wife said nothing, to us. I'm still wondering who it was, and I didn't really even know the voice. Kinda strange..........

Johnny Rotten · 02-06-2004, 09:50 PM

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Originally posted by GakFace
Well, I think its kinda of like that. I think its harder to SEE energy when its really bright out. If thats the case, this would explain why lots of us only see them through that part of our eyes. This doesn't cover everyone, but again this is using our spiritual sense... slightly off than normal physical senses. ....... Something like that. Rough Idea, but doable.

Cones in the center of the eye, rods taking up the outer area. About 120 million cones in the eye compared to 6 to 7 million rods. Cones are far more sensitive, but do not process color. The enormous amount of cones is why you can see objects in the dark better if you turn your eyes away slightly. But they also get overloaded in bright light, while the rods do not.

...Which is not to say that you aren't seeing actual things in your peripheral vision. It's just that you may want to temper your conclusions with some scientific exploration .

01-12-2004, 01:00 AM	#1 (permalink)
tritium Professor of Drinkology	Ok ... so I see things... sometimes But this: http://helpforsensitives.com/ Just freaked me the hell out. It happens all the time, out of the corner of my eye, I'll see something and only as it moves and when I turn my gaze, it will be gone. I always look at things that move, and I always have. I also have incredible side vision, so I see everything that moves outside of my focused sight. I'm not crazy or anything and this isn't something that happens everyday or even on some predictable schedule. Sometimes, I'll be sitting and watching TV or playing computer games and then ... BAM, I have to look to one side. They're are usually small ... like rats or midgets or something. I'm not making jokes -- they are usually small and undefined but I've never actually seem one, you know? Its always when nothing else could possibly have caused my peripheral vision to show a movement too. Thats what bugs me out. Anyone else out there that shares in this with me? And I've always had this really bizarre memory of birth. Its like, I remember arriving or something. __________________ Blah.

01-13-2004, 07:40 AM	#4 (permalink)
tritium Professor of Drinkology	Good. Then I'm not completely nuts then... __________________ Blah.

01-14-2004, 04:38 PM	#7 (permalink)
sadistikdreams lonely rolling star Location: Seattle.	hehehe. Nice pixel dolls on that site... As for sensitivity... i've heard that cats hear and sense more than humans... in the supernatural aspect. __________________ "Besides the noble art of getting things done, there is the noble art of leaving things undone. The wisdom of life consists in the elimination of non-essentials." -Lin Yutang hearts, by d.a.

01-15-2004, 12:19 AM	#9 (permalink)
GakFace Go Ninja, Go Ninja Go!! Location: IN, USA	MSD... Think about the way eyes work. There are things both for high light and low light in our eyes. Our periphreal works better in lower light. A simple example of this is a very dim star in the night sky. You could stare for hours and you'll never see it, but the second you swith to periphreal vision.. you'll see ito out of the corner of your eye... as soon as you see it, you'll focus on it, now to see nothing. Well, I think its kinda of like that. I think its harder to SEE energy when its really bright out. If thats the case, this would explain why lots of us only see them through that part of our eyes. This doesn't cover everyone, but again this is using our spiritual sense... slightly off than normal physical senses. ....... Something like that. Rough Idea, but doable. As for me? Yeah thats how I mainly see too. I've had a few rare occasions where I saw them infront of me (eyes focused) but thats few and far between. I've seen many things with periphreal vision.. sometimes I can make them out... other times its just a spirit walking by. __________________ RoboBlaster: Welcome to the club! Not that I'm in the club. And there really isn'a a club in the first place. But if there was a club and if I was in it, I would definitely welcome you to it.

01-15-2004, 03:36 PM	#10 (permalink)
bonehed1 Psycho Location: California	MrSelfDestruct has a good theory. I always see things in the corner. I think its just your imagination getting the best of you. __________________ Stuff is Good

01-12-2004, 06:32 AM	#2 (permalink)
MSD The sky calls to us ... Super Moderator Location: CT	I see stuff in my peripheral vision. Same as you do, no explanation, no visible cause. Can't say the same about being born, though. My only theory on why this happens is that peripheral vision may be procesed partly in the subconscious, and the fact that it's given less priority by the brain means that your mind won't fliter out what may be there, but your mind normally protects you from.

01-12-2004, 09:57 AM	#3 (permalink)
lordjeebus ‚±‚Ìˆó˜U‚ª–Ú‚É“ü‚ç‚Ê‚© Location: College	I see things in my peripheral vision sometimes too. Here's my theory. Your brain gets a lot more visual information from the center then from the edges of your field of vision. In order to piece together what is going on, your vision-processing units in your brain seek to recognize patterns, and those patterns are recognized as objects. Along the edges, where there's less information, there's a higher chance of misinterpreting random data in a small area as a moving unit, and hence, an object. People have specific processing areas for recognizing motion of biological origin based on very little information so it could be those that are being triggered. For instance, if someone puts a few LEDs on their body and limbs in the dark it is obvious to an observer that they are walking/jumping/whatever, despite the low amount of incoming data, because the processing areas are so sensitive.

01-14-2004, 05:51 PM	#8 (permalink)
Wulf_Hunter Crazy	This is comforting, I've seen things also. Altough it never really scared me. Nice to know we're not alone.

01-15-2004, 06:12 PM	#11 (permalink)
tritium Professor of Drinkology	They seem awfully fluid when they move out of sight for it to be a set of misfiring neurons. __________________ Blah.

01-17-2004, 09:18 AM	#13 (permalink)
TerresqueÜ Hiding Out	Here's something from a few supernaturalists theory book. A lot of ghosts and paranormal beings don't like being seen and will often been seen out of the corner of your eyes or you'll sense something behind you and turn to see nothing. It's a common thing for an experienced ghost hunter to jump and turn around real fast to see if there is anything behind him/her or to his peripherals. Ghosts are generally very elusive and are just wandering around thier old stomping grounds, your house, a prison, a hotel, anything, and just don't want to be seen. __________________ Say yes to the 'Tilted Roleplaying' Forum http://www.tfproject.org/tfp/showthread.php?s=&threadid=1932&highlight=petition

01-18-2004, 03:42 AM	#14 (permalink)
flutter_girl Upright Location: some place near Sydney	i see things quite a bit... and in one week i had a few strange things happening to me. i was at a friends place, and it felt like someone was playing with my hair... but there was no one behind me... so i put it down to the air con blowing on me... then i found out that it wasnt on... then one night at home, i looked upstairs to where my dad was using the computer and i could have sworn someone stood up from behind him and ran into the lounge room, and he ran like my dad does... slouching forward coz of a bad back... and then towards the later half of the week, my brother was in a pretty big accident... that he could have died it, but the thing is i had a dream about it the night before it happened, just the basics, and my mum saying 'hes alright, everyone is alright, but the truck is gone'. when i found out about the accident, i thought nothing of the dream, til my mum said those exact words... and then the next day i was sitting in the lounge room and i felt someone touch my arm... tho no one was there. now normally if one of those things happened, i would think that i was imagining it, but all that happened in one week. stuff like seeing thins out of the corner of my eye and feeling that there is someone behind me happens every now and then, especially when im by myself, but not all in one week. i suppose i could be going crazy, but stuff like this used to happen heaps when i was little... so what do you reckon, over active imagination?

01-19-2004, 06:00 AM	#15 (permalink)
GakFace Go Ninja, Go Ninja Go!! Location: IN, USA	TerresqueÜ: Yeah, thats how a lot of them get their pictures.. They'll turn around immediatly and they'll turn their camera even faster.. and snap a pic. flutter_girl: Neat stories. I don't ever feel things playing with my hair, that'd be kinda cool. I'd just lay back and let them. I occasion feel things on me, but I never really put much thought into them. I've seen one pass my doorway quite frequently. My door has been shut for a long time now, but not for that reason. But it happened enough to not be an overactive imagination answer. I haven't seen them much lately, but I also thing any spirits that used to be in this house have now left. I just don't see them anymore, and even more importantly I don't feel them anymore. If they're still here, they're trying awfully hard to avoid my senses. I liked saying Hi to them. __________________ RoboBlaster: Welcome to the club! Not that I'm in the club. And there really isn'a a club in the first place. But if there was a club and if I was in it, I would definitely welcome you to it.

01-19-2004, 09:55 AM	#16 (permalink)
bonehed1 Psycho Location: California	I see red spots every frikin time I close my eyes....its quite weird __________________ Stuff is Good

01-19-2004, 07:45 PM	#17 (permalink)
flutter_girl Upright Location: some place near Sydney	hmm... i spose it wouldnt be overactive imagination then... after all... i couldnt have made up what i saw when i was little... anyone here ever talk to their dead pa frequently when they were kids? or see dead people? hehe, shit, i sound like that kid on the sixth sense... red spots? been looking at the light too long???

01-21-2004, 07:12 AM	#18 (permalink)
Dano069 is Nucking Futs! Location: On the edge of sanity	I've seen stuff in my peripheral vision too. I think it's quite common. I've also picked up scents that I connect with either my mom or dad, who are both deceased. I think they like to check up on me from time to time. But, that's just me. As for animals sensing more about the world around us, I believe that too. Our dog, for about a week, would bark like crazy at the ceiling fan in the family room. It wasn't on and he'd never done that before. He would look up there from time to time like he was looking at/for something. My wife and I figure it was one of our dead relatives checking up on how things were going in our family. Weird, but not scary weird. After the week was up, no more barking at the fan, even if it was on. __________________ I may look attentive, but I'm taking peeks down your blouse faster than the human eye can follow. Last edited by Dano069; 01-21-2004 at 07:17 AM..

01-22-2004, 01:03 AM	#19 (permalink)
forgotten_dream Psycho	Fairies. They're all over the place and the love to fuck with your head. Peripheral vision or no, when you start hearing your name being called when nobody else is around then you start to think twice about that stuff you see out of the corner of your eye. o_O __________________ "A ouija board just works better if you've made it yourself. It's sortof like how 'Clue' is more interesting when one of you has actually killed someone."

02-06-2004, 03:59 AM	#20 (permalink)
MrFailure Upright Location: Stafford, VA	I have the same problem. It really scares me some times.

02-06-2004, 08:52 PM	#21 (permalink)
RaDiAn Addict	I see a shadow of a cat walking and or running in the house from my peripheral vision from time to time , and the weird part is my wife has seen it too. The other weird thing that happened, was during a LAN party. My buddy and I had been playing, and my buddy said someone just called you in the other room and just at that moment I was getting up to answer who ever just called me. I went in the other room to see who was calling me and nobody was there. My wife was watching TV and my sister was sleeping on the sofa. My wife said nothing, to us. I'm still wondering who it was, and I didn't really even know the voice. Kinda strange..........