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figgles · 09-04-2003, 06:39 PM

I'm sure this has been raised here but can't find it.

Any experiences with Astral Travel out there? I used to have very vivid dreams when i was younger and my brother freaked out over two instances.One i 'dreamt' i was climbing a mountain and was stuck, and called out for help. My brother swears to this day i was on the wall with my head touching the ceiling and with no obvious support.Another time in order to sleep i used to close my eyes and pretend my bed was like a big rockign chair, and it would rock back and forth eventually the cycle going near a full loop and then doing a loop. If it didn't put me to sleep it gave me the weirdest sensations! One night i did it and woke up feeling suffocated, the bed was upside donw, and my brother swore he would no longer sleep in he same room.

Apart from that i read of imagining a door in the roof that was slightly ajar, and imagining your 'spirit' or whatever floating up slowly and through the door.I swear i have been there ready to 'step' through many times only to hear voice or line of reasoning saying 'no'.
Been years since ive tried this maybe again soon.

YzermanS19 · 09-04-2003, 06:46 PM

I'm not sure I'd consider that Astral travel in the consciousness sense of the term, but yeah, I have done what your talking about.

The most interesting feeling is the sensation of flight in lucid dreaming. Hard to master, but certainly fun. I havent been able to lucid dream in a while, but when I used to, I could fly for a really really long time

Munku · 09-04-2003, 08:07 PM

Damn, I wanna do that stuff. Shit. Im wayyy too normal. I sleep wakeup go to school. sleep repeat. argh!

Easytiger · 09-04-2003, 10:03 PM

People say that there is a definite connection between lucid dreaming and astral travel, if they aren't in fact the same thing. There are a few books out there that give tips on how to achieve lucid dreams, but I can't think of any titles right now.

GoldenOuroboros · 09-05-2003, 01:45 AM

Cause when you astral travel you goto the plane where demons and angels reside, it's not a 'vacational' trip.. There are many threads based on this.. look for mine on the dream scape... But your other experiences seem to tend towards telekinetic.. hrmm maybe not that.. but something else.. anyways, moving things with your mind.

Perhaps you are the first of the 'next' generation..

Edit:
TFP: Dreamscape

Johnny Rotten · 09-05-2003, 04:58 PM

I stumbled over an extrememly in-depth website covering OBEs without any New Age mystical hokum a few years ago. The guy put his entire published book online, and parts of the second book:
http://www.robertpeterson.org/obebook.html

Here are some Amazon reader reviews of the first book. That way you can get a feel for it before taking the time to wade into it, I figure.

meff · 09-05-2003, 06:40 PM

The only thing I can say that happens to me most of the time bed-related is sometimes I wake up and I can *swear* I am floating or laying on the other side of the bed, until someone says something or I totally wake up and realize I am not and then it feels like the world spins around me and I am jolted back into reality..

Boner · 09-05-2003, 11:18 PM

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Originally posted by Easytiger
People say that there is a definite connection between lucid dreaming and astral travel, if they aren't in fact the same thing. There are a few books out there that give tips on how to achieve lucid dreams, but I can't think of any titles right now.

I highly recommend "Exploring the World of Lucid Dreaming" by Stephen LaBerge.

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg...books&n=507846

LaBerge is the leading expert on lucid dreaming. I have this book, and it is excellent. I found it at a Hastings (book/music store) for around $6.

Lasereth · 09-07-2003, 10:48 AM

My girlfriend swears she's been able to do it before. She used to creep the hell out of me telling me about it. According to her, she would lay on her back on her bed and close her eyes. Then you simply picture yourself dividing from your body into two beings (one physical, one mental). She says that when you finally seperate, everything gets blurry and white/silvery. The only time she ever tried it scared her bad enough to never try it again. Her experience allowed her to get out of her bedroom, through her front door, and out into her driveway, but when she got past that there was always an extremely fast-moving black-blurry figure running towards her down the "tunnel." She says it would run past her towards her bed, retracing her steps. She always forced herself to wake up before it reached her bed.

Of course, I'm skeptic, because I don't believe in ghosts/supernatural/spirits crap. I DO believe in aliens, however. She also claims to have seen the ghost of a little girl in her house as well. Not only has she seen the ghost girl, but she's actually seen her for extended amounts of time (10 seconds or more). The little girl is always standing at the end of her bedroom hall in a blue dress. I've spent the night at her house a good amount of times, and it always creeps me out big time. I always stare at the place where she saw the ghost repeatedly. Like I said, I don't believe in ghosts or supernatural beings, but it can sure scare the hell out of me.

-Lasereth

GakFace · 09-08-2003, 12:53 PM

ugh.. that story freaks me out too. Something going quickly to her body. To me, it seems like an evil spirit (demon, or just someone really evil (dark souls mean dirty souls, thus filled with sin) trying to come back to this world. Her body wasn't dead, and still had lots of life left in it, so it could have been something evil wanting to live once more. Good thing she woke up before it made it, or who knows what would have happened, freaky stuff.

I remember a long time ago my dad yelled at me because I somehow had marks on my ceiling from my shoes. He was angry, because how else did I get them up there? Well, My very well have just walked up there. I know when I was younger, I'd wake up on the otherside of my bed a lot.

brinkn1 · 09-10-2003, 05:57 PM

I found a fun way to give myself a quasi-out of body experience:

I'll lay on my side in my bed, and close my eyes and make a mental image of my room. Then I'll imagine myself positioned 180 degrees rotated on my bed. So if my feet are closest to the wall and I'm facing away from the wall, I'll imagine that my head is closest to the wall and that I am facing the wall. I concentrate on making myself believe that I'm positioned differently than I actually am, and then I get a wierd floating/hovering feeling. Kinda lame, but try it and see if it works.

Ever woken up suddenly in the middle of the night convinced that you were hovering inches above your mattress, and somehow fell to the mattress (which is why you woke up)? I've heard this happens to a lot of people, happens to me all the time. I doubt that I'm actually hovering... maybe it's a complete body spasm?

GakFace · 09-10-2003, 08:16 PM

beats me... every time I "FLY" in my dreams.. I fall.. and it never hurts.

Now, I'm a deep sleeper, I don't wake up to anything.. In fact I have to train myself to wake up to my alarm clocks, and pay attention to the time i goto bed so my mind can prepare to wake up to when the alarms are going to go off. Why did I point this out? Because when I fall I don't feel anything.. Could I have been floating, then when I fell in my dreams (since I could fly... its a memory.. of me in the dream) maybe i fell in real life too. See most people when they fall in their dreams wake up before they land, so would it really hurt? No one knows. Me, I fall, hit the ground.. say "SHIT!" as i was supposed to fly, and go about the dream. So I may quite possibly be floating when I have those flight dreams and fall to my bed when i fall in my dreams.. I never know, because I never wake... Interesting thought, eh?

GoldenOuroboros · 09-10-2003, 10:04 PM

I've had plenty of falling 'dreams' where I have hit bottom and wake up just after.. yeah it hurts.. maybe it's supposed to in those dreams I dunno, but it weird seeing oneself smushed on the pavement..

GakFace · 09-11-2003, 12:54 AM

yeah, i don't turn to mush either.. I just hit the ground.. get mad for not flying, and stand back up.

rider6061 · 09-11-2003, 09:51 AM

There are many books on astral projection in any library. Many teach methods on how to develop the power to be able to control your abilities while projecting from your physical self. I have had many experiences both conscious and asleep though not in many years. I am reminded of these experiences now and will dig up my old books.

irseg · 09-11-2003, 10:23 AM

The other day I was at work, sick as hell and doped up on way too much cough syrup.

I put my head down on my desk and started imagining I was having an IM conversation with a friend. I could've sworn I was sitting up at my desk typing, and it was a pretty detailed chat from what I recall. Then I sat up for real and was really weirded out when I realized I hadn't been chatting at all.

That stage between being awake and asleep makes you think and sense some really weird stuff; I think that explains "lucid dreaming".

Johnny Rotten · 09-11-2003, 11:32 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by irseg
The other day I was at work, sick as hell and doped up on way too much cough syrup.

I put my head down on my desk and started imagining I was having an IM conversation with a friend. I could've sworn I was sitting up at my desk typing, and it was a pretty detailed chat from what I recall. Then I sat up for real and was really weirded out when I realized I hadn't been chatting at all.

That stage between being awake and asleep makes you think and sense some really weird stuff; I think that explains "lucid dreaming".

That's possibly a result of a high level of DXM from the cough syrup. It's quite dangerous, because cough syrup can also contain chlorpheniramine maleate, which deprives the ganglia in your brain of oxygen, slowly killing you if taken in large enough doses. I found this out a while back while researching mushrooms.

More info:
http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/dxm/dxm.shtml

bonbonbox · 09-14-2003, 10:44 PM

"Thinking is the best way to travel".... Mike Pinder

martinitime · 09-18-2003, 08:06 AM

Astral projection is one thing, cough syrup is another!

yellowgowild · 09-21-2003, 06:25 AM

MSD · 09-27-2003, 11:34 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by brinkn1

Ever woken up suddenly in the middle of the night convinced that you were hovering inches above your mattress, and somehow fell to the mattress (which is why you woke up)? I've heard this happens to a lot of people, happens to me all the time. I doubt that I'm actually hovering... maybe it's a complete body spasm?

I was convinced that I was hovering the one time that I can remember. I woke up, opened my eyes, and as I realized that the ceiling was 6 inches in front of my face, I fell onto my bed, spraining my wrist.

tangledweb · 09-28-2003, 04:43 AM

The only OBE that I have ever had involved Vodka and a paper carton of OJ. The OBE part was me puking my guts out.

I DID have frequent, detailed, 'hovering' dreams when I was a kid. Pretty cool stuff but I never woke to any evidence of it.

09-04-2003, 06:39 PM	#1 (permalink)
figgles Upright	Astral Travel I'm sure this has been raised here but can't find it. Any experiences with Astral Travel out there? I used to have very vivid dreams when i was younger and my brother freaked out over two instances.One i 'dreamt' i was climbing a mountain and was stuck, and called out for help. My brother swears to this day i was on the wall with my head touching the ceiling and with no obvious support.Another time in order to sleep i used to close my eyes and pretend my bed was like a big rockign chair, and it would rock back and forth eventually the cycle going near a full loop and then doing a loop. If it didn't put me to sleep it gave me the weirdest sensations! One night i did it and woke up feeling suffocated, the bed was upside donw, and my brother swore he would no longer sleep in he same room. Apart from that i read of imagining a door in the roof that was slightly ajar, and imagining your 'spirit' or whatever floating up slowly and through the door.I swear i have been there ready to 'step' through many times only to hear voice or line of reasoning saying 'no'. Been years since ive tried this maybe again soon.

09-04-2003, 06:46 PM	#2 (permalink)
YzermanS19 not your typical god-fearing junkie Location: State of Confusion	I'm not sure I'd consider that Astral travel in the consciousness sense of the term, but yeah, I have done what your talking about. The most interesting feeling is the sensation of flight in lucid dreaming. Hard to master, but certainly fun. I havent been able to lucid dream in a while, but when I used to, I could fly for a really really long time __________________ the light that burns twice as bright burns half as long and you have burned so very, very brightly

09-05-2003, 01:45 AM	#5 (permalink)
GoldenOuroboros The Cheshire Grin... Location: An Aussie Outback	Cause when you astral travel you goto the plane where demons and angels reside, it's not a 'vacational' trip.. There are many threads based on this.. look for mine on the dream scape... But your other experiences seem to tend towards telekinetic.. hrmm maybe not that.. but something else.. anyways, moving things with your mind. Perhaps you are the first of the 'next' generation.. Edit: TFP: Dreamscape __________________ Can you see me grin grin grrriiiiinnnning?!

09-05-2003, 04:58 PM	#6 (permalink)
Johnny Rotten lost and found Location: Berkeley	I stumbled over an extrememly in-depth website covering OBEs without any New Age mystical hokum a few years ago. The guy put his entire published book online, and parts of the second book: http://www.robertpeterson.org/obebook.html Here are some Amazon reader reviews of the first book. That way you can get a feel for it before taking the time to wade into it, I figure. __________________ "The idea that money doesn't buy you happiness is a lie put about by the rich, to stop the poor from killing them." -- Michael Caine

09-05-2003, 06:40 PM	#7 (permalink)
meff Vanishing, like I do.. Location: Austin, TX	The only thing I can say that happens to me most of the time bed-related is sometimes I wake up and I can swear I am floating or laying on the other side of the bed, until someone says something or I totally wake up and realize I am not and then it feels like the world spins around me and I am jolted back into reality.. __________________ Toy-like people make me boy-like.

09-04-2003, 08:07 PM	#3 (permalink)
Munku Lost Location: Florida	Damn, I wanna do that stuff. Shit. Im wayyy too normal. I sleep wakeup go to school. sleep repeat. argh!

09-04-2003, 10:03 PM	#4 (permalink)
Easytiger Insane Location: Tigerland	People say that there is a definite connection between lucid dreaming and astral travel, if they aren't in fact the same thing. There are a few books out there that give tips on how to achieve lucid dreams, but I can't think of any titles right now.

09-07-2003, 10:48 AM	#9 (permalink)
Lasereth Knight of the Old Republic Location: Winston-Salem, NC	My girlfriend swears she's been able to do it before. She used to creep the hell out of me telling me about it. According to her, she would lay on her back on her bed and close her eyes. Then you simply picture yourself dividing from your body into two beings (one physical, one mental). She says that when you finally seperate, everything gets blurry and white/silvery. The only time she ever tried it scared her bad enough to never try it again. Her experience allowed her to get out of her bedroom, through her front door, and out into her driveway, but when she got past that there was always an extremely fast-moving black-blurry figure running towards her down the "tunnel." She says it would run past her towards her bed, retracing her steps. She always forced herself to wake up before it reached her bed. Of course, I'm skeptic, because I don't believe in ghosts/supernatural/spirits crap. I DO believe in aliens, however. She also claims to have seen the ghost of a little girl in her house as well. Not only has she seen the ghost girl, but she's actually seen her for extended amounts of time (10 seconds or more). The little girl is always standing at the end of her bedroom hall in a blue dress. I've spent the night at her house a good amount of times, and it always creeps me out big time. I always stare at the place where she saw the ghost repeatedly. Like I said, I don't believe in ghosts or supernatural beings, but it can sure scare the hell out of me. -Lasereth __________________ "A Darwinian attacks his theory, seeking to find flaws. An ID believer defends his theory, seeking to conceal flaws." -Roger Ebert

09-08-2003, 12:53 PM	#10 (permalink)
GakFace Go Ninja, Go Ninja Go!! Location: IN, USA	ugh.. that story freaks me out too. Something going quickly to her body. To me, it seems like an evil spirit (demon, or just someone really evil (dark souls mean dirty souls, thus filled with sin) trying to come back to this world. Her body wasn't dead, and still had lots of life left in it, so it could have been something evil wanting to live once more. Good thing she woke up before it made it, or who knows what would have happened, freaky stuff. I remember a long time ago my dad yelled at me because I somehow had marks on my ceiling from my shoes. He was angry, because how else did I get them up there? Well, My very well have just walked up there. I know when I was younger, I'd wake up on the otherside of my bed a lot. __________________ RoboBlaster: Welcome to the club! Not that I'm in the club. And there really isn'a a club in the first place. But if there was a club and if I was in it, I would definitely welcome you to it.

09-10-2003, 05:57 PM	#11 (permalink)
brinkn1 Crazy	I found a fun way to give myself a quasi-out of body experience: I'll lay on my side in my bed, and close my eyes and make a mental image of my room. Then I'll imagine myself positioned 180 degrees rotated on my bed. So if my feet are closest to the wall and I'm facing away from the wall, I'll imagine that my head is closest to the wall and that I am facing the wall. I concentrate on making myself believe that I'm positioned differently than I actually am, and then I get a wierd floating/hovering feeling. Kinda lame, but try it and see if it works. Ever woken up suddenly in the middle of the night convinced that you were hovering inches above your mattress, and somehow fell to the mattress (which is why you woke up)? I've heard this happens to a lot of people, happens to me all the time. I doubt that I'm actually hovering... maybe it's a complete body spasm?

09-10-2003, 08:16 PM	#12 (permalink)
GakFace Go Ninja, Go Ninja Go!! Location: IN, USA	beats me... every time I "FLY" in my dreams.. I fall.. and it never hurts. Now, I'm a deep sleeper, I don't wake up to anything.. In fact I have to train myself to wake up to my alarm clocks, and pay attention to the time i goto bed so my mind can prepare to wake up to when the alarms are going to go off. Why did I point this out? Because when I fall I don't feel anything.. Could I have been floating, then when I fell in my dreams (since I could fly... its a memory.. of me in the dream) maybe i fell in real life too. See most people when they fall in their dreams wake up before they land, so would it really hurt? No one knows. Me, I fall, hit the ground.. say "SHIT!" as i was supposed to fly, and go about the dream. So I may quite possibly be floating when I have those flight dreams and fall to my bed when i fall in my dreams.. I never know, because I never wake... Interesting thought, eh? __________________ RoboBlaster: Welcome to the club! Not that I'm in the club. And there really isn'a a club in the first place. But if there was a club and if I was in it, I would definitely welcome you to it.

09-10-2003, 10:04 PM	#13 (permalink)
GoldenOuroboros The Cheshire Grin... Location: An Aussie Outback	I've had plenty of falling 'dreams' where I have hit bottom and wake up just after.. yeah it hurts.. maybe it's supposed to in those dreams I dunno, but it weird seeing oneself smushed on the pavement.. __________________ Can you see me grin grin grrriiiiinnnning?!

09-11-2003, 12:54 AM	#14 (permalink)
GakFace Go Ninja, Go Ninja Go!! Location: IN, USA	yeah, i don't turn to mush either.. I just hit the ground.. get mad for not flying, and stand back up. __________________ RoboBlaster: Welcome to the club! Not that I'm in the club. And there really isn'a a club in the first place. But if there was a club and if I was in it, I would definitely welcome you to it.

09-11-2003, 09:51 AM	#15 (permalink)
rider6061 Crazy Location: oklahoma	There are many books on astral projection in any library. Many teach methods on how to develop the power to be able to control your abilities while projecting from your physical self. I have had many experiences both conscious and asleep though not in many years. I am reminded of these experiences now and will dig up my old books. __________________ Is This Thing On?

09-11-2003, 10:23 AM	#16 (permalink)
irseg Junkie Location: Florida	The other day I was at work, sick as hell and doped up on way too much cough syrup. I put my head down on my desk and started imagining I was having an IM conversation with a friend. I could've sworn I was sitting up at my desk typing, and it was a pretty detailed chat from what I recall. Then I sat up for real and was really weirded out when I realized I hadn't been chatting at all. That stage between being awake and asleep makes you think and sense some really weird stuff; I think that explains "lucid dreaming".

09-21-2003, 06:25 AM	#20 (permalink)
yellowgowild Psycho Location: Tampa	. Last edited by yellowgowild; 09-23-2003 at 07:42 AM..

09-14-2003, 10:44 PM	#18 (permalink)
bonbonbox Banned	"Thinking is the best way to travel".... Mike Pinder

09-18-2003, 08:06 AM	#19 (permalink)
martinitime Upright Location: Atlanta, GA	Astral projection is one thing, cough syrup is another!

09-28-2003, 04:43 AM	#22 (permalink)
tangledweb slightly impaired Location: Down South	The only OBE that I have ever had involved Vodka and a paper carton of OJ. The OBE part was me puking my guts out. I DID have frequent, detailed, 'hovering' dreams when I was a kid. Pretty cool stuff but I never woke to any evidence of it.